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Start reading into what screens do to the vision. Everyone knows this, why do you think Apple introduced screen time and the warning feature when you are too close to a screen?

This whole comment section is flooding with everyone talking about eyesight issues.
You could've just said no you don't have any evidence.
 
Similar situation here, and why this seems like an overly complicated product. I feel like I would need one set for when I wear my contacts (readers) and another set for days when I'm just using my eyeglasses (prescription). And presumably both will get worse as I get older...... Would have been real neat if they could somehow work out an autofocus feature to eliminate the need for optional lenses......
I'm not sure you would need prescription without your contacts if this is a negative lens prescription - you may need a weaker reader if you are also presbyopic as well as nearsighted. Unless you are correcting for astimatism. But you would definitely need different lenses if you only wear your contacts sometimes.
This thread makes me think how difficult it will be to explain all of this.
 
Similar situation here, and why this seems like an overly complicated product. I feel like I would need one set for when I wear my contacts (readers) and another set for days when I'm just using my eyeglasses (prescription). And presumably both will get worse as I get older...... Would have been real neat if they could somehow work out an autofocus feature to eliminate the need for optional lenses......
Ideally, they will implement an adjustable lens inside the set to allow you to set the focus. I wonder why this wasn't in gen 1.
 
Great so I will have to spend $149 every year on new inserts when my prescription changes, in addition to what I already spend on regular prescription glasses, prescription computer glasses and prescription sun glasses.

This gimmicky product just got crossed off my wish list.


you really don't need all those glasses.
 
Any vision expert care to explain why Apple couldn't do this in software?
You would need hardware to adjust it, you’re physically adjusting the point the light focuses to in your eyeball. It would require some kind of mechanical system like a DSLR, and I doubt even that would be good enough for the human eye.
 
If I was a frequent air traveller, I might spring for one for the team. In theory, it could be an ultimate air travel computer, with full privacy to boot.

For now, I will wait and see, and learn from other people's experiences.
 
I guess this isn't ready:

Patent filing shows that Apple is working on a display that adjusts to correct user's vision​

 
The frustrating part of this is... Sometimes I wear my glasses. And sometimes I wear contacts. If I'm wearing contacts, I need readers. If wearing my glasses, I'd need the prescription lenses.

So I basically have to decide at time of purchase under which circumstances I will wear a Vision Pro going forward. And if I'm wearing my contacts one day, but I've decided on the prescription lenses, then I either can't wear the headset or I have to go through the process of taking out my lenses and then putting them back in when I'm done.

No, it's not the end of the world! It's not even a big deal! But it does add friction both to the initial purchase decision and to the anticipated daily use of the product.

Unless... Are the lenses interchangeable? Could I get readers and prescription lenses and swap them out, or do they become a part of the headset?
 
Anyone knowledgeable enough about tech and vision to know the likelihood of these vision issues being corrected on screen in future iterations of a device / OS like this?

An Apple Vision that could actually allow people to see, sans prescription lenses, would be a truly revolutionary development.
 
I guess this isn't ready:

Patent filing shows that Apple is working on a display that adjusts to correct user's vision​

Very cool. Like the machine at my eye doctor’s that determines my basic prescription by looking at my eye while I focus on an image in the viewfinder. [that works for distance, but the doctor still needs to adjust for the close vision (bifocals) with an exam. I suppose both could be done in a future version.]
 
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I'm confused – don't most people who use "readers" only use them to look at very close things, like books/pones/etc.? And then take them off to look at everything else? How would you take the readers "off" to look at everything else, in a headset?

My other question is about bifocals – I only use glasses for nearsightedness, and either look under the lenses, or take my glasses off, to look at things close-up. Will I need a bifocal prescription (assuming they offer them) to use Vision Pro, so I can see things both close-up and everything else properly? Obviously I can't "look under" the inserts in a headset.
 
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So my genes determine how much I pay for the Vision Pro? I was born with terrible vision and I get to pay more money if I want one of these things. Yay me.
A few thousand years ago your genes would have left you nearly blind in the wilderness...probably to be eaten by a bear. So yeah... $99 to correct your vision so you can see 3-D bears that can't eat you is roughgoing.
 
I am curious what prescriptions they will be able to accommodate. I was going to get the lenses for the Quest 2 a few years ago, but the cylinder range FramesDirect supports is -2.0 to 0 and of course the prescription for one of my eyes is outside of that range. The Quest 3 inserts from Zenni do look like they could be made in my prescription having a cylinder range -4.0 to +4.0. It looks like they will allow you to get a combined sphere + cylinder value from -9.0 to +6.0 - a much wider range compared to the Quest 2.
 
I’m surprised by how reasonable that is. If you wear eyeglasses, ask your optician about getting Zeiss lenses on your prescription and you’ll be shocked by the price.
If they're really saying that prescription inserts will cost $150 - whatever the prescription - then yeah, as soon as they come to the UK I'll buy Vision Pro to replace my regular glasses B-) (no, not really). - the cynic/realist in me, however, suspects that will be $150 for very simple/common prescriptions, and either extra (or n/a) for more complex ones.
 
As others pointed out, contacts should work fine. I wear progressives so I'm probably SOL anyway, so my vision saved me 3 grand..

Quite probably not. Progressives exist to correct for presbyopia, age-related condition where the eye lens becomes inflexible and the accommodation range becomes narrower. This is fixed by using reading glasses (making the wearer unable to see far) or having eyeglasses where the lower part is more positive (or less negative) to enable focusing to near objects, such as books.

As current AR/VR glasses are not true three-dimensional displays, everything is displayed in the same plane at infinity. In other words, a person with normal eyesight will see a sharp image without straining their eyes (squeezing the crystalline lens in the eye).

As presbyopia only affects near vision, it does not matter with this type of VR. Whatever is the correction required for sharp vision to distance is the right correction here. The Px is probably quite close to what it was before progressives were needed.

Readers are typically inexpensive single magnification lenses, designed for reading, sticking etc. for people who only need correction for that.

Yes, readers are simple lenses with positive diopter value (convex lens, “magnifying glass”). No negative values (myopia correction) or astigmatism correction. I would also guess that they will only be available as pairs with same strength.
 
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The frustrating part of this is... Sometimes I wear my glasses. And sometimes I wear contacts. If I'm wearing contacts, I need readers. If wearing my glasses, I'd need the prescription lenses.

So I basically have to decide at time of purchase under which circumstances I will wear a Vision Pro going forward. And if I'm wearing my contacts one day, but I've decided on the prescription lenses, then I either can't wear the headset or I have to go through the process of taking out my lenses and then putting them back in when I'm done.

No, it's not the end of the world! It's not even a big deal! But it does add friction both to the initial purchase decision and to the anticipated daily use of the product.

Unless... Are the lenses interchangeable? Could I get readers and prescription lenses and swap them out, or do they become a part of the headset?
Given that they attach magnetically I think they would be interchangeable.
 
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