Well, the OP is accusing Apple of contributing to the BS
or whatever you want to call selectively allowing particular approved reviewers and revoking further privileges should apple not agree with the review
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Apple Vs. The Media, This is why I don't put any weight behind most reviews.
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Well, the OP is accusing Apple of contributing to the BS
or whatever you want to call selectively allowing particular approved reviewers and revoking further privileges should apple not agree with the review
Well, the OP is accusing Apple of contributing to the BS
or whatever you want to call selectively allowing particular approved reviewers and revoking further privileges should apple not agree with the review
Apple probably does contribute to the bs, but honestly it doesn't make them better or worse than any other company.
How about the internet vs Apple? No matter what Apple seems to do, it's never going to be good enough for the internet at large. And they'll be sure to let you know this too.
I try not to read just one review before making up my mind on a product, but that's just me.
I try not to read just one review before making up my mind on a product, but that's just me.
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That is where my reviews start and finish with my reviews.MKBHD favors Android but I really enjoy all of his reviews and the kid is super talented and knows his stuff.
I use him as a resource but not any reviews is an end all be all and mostly for entertainment but I trust his insight.
That is where my reviews start and finish with my reviews.MKBHD favors Android but I really enjoy all of his reviews and the kid is super talented and knows his stuff.
I use him as a resource but not any reviews is an end all be all and mostly for entertainment but I trust his insight.
Yeah exactly. A company paying on endorsing review outlets is not something new or exclusive to Apple. It is standard practise and all Apple's competitors do exactly the same thing.
True. But Apple has an advantage without doing anything by being an US company. Whether you like it or not the "racial" factor still plays a part in general perception. Add to this the worldwide influence of the powerful US media gives Apple a great advantage over its competitors.
The widespread news which creeps into everyone's attention when an new iphone is launched...well even crap product will sell itself to those who don't scout around and compare products.
"Crap" is a value call; a label to be handed out on Internet forums. Doesn't make it so.
What I meant crap is relative when compared to others. By itself it may be good enough.
btw: Crap doesnt just mean specs but also price.
So why should Apple be criticised for putting themselves in a position where their marketing works to this effect?
The iPhone always attracts attention before launch, yes. Any publicity is good publicity and the iPhone 6 was also effectively marketed by the very people who wished to do it down. It all added to its exposure and although people like yourself criticise the way Apple push their products, you also contribute to it by making your opinions public and contributing to the reaction in the'widespread news'.
You are right there are people who will buy an iPhone without comparing it to other phones. I know quite a few people who do that. However they are also very happy with the iPhone and the wish for continuity and ease of upgrading is a major pull too. People often stay with something they like until it lets them down. We also have to remember that a large percentage of people don't read tech websites or take an active interest in what is coming out or in the mass market. I think a lot of smartphone users really only perform basic tasks and are not overly bothered by the impressive specs many flagship phones exhibit. The top end of the market is very small as shown in recent studies and even high end Android devices don't make up the lions share of that sectors usage so it is all relative.
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That is solely subjective though isn't it on both counts?
If somebody suggests they can't afford an iPhone or Galaxy S5 because it is too expensive so therefore 'crap', that is an opinion exclusive to them and wouldn't be an issue for somebody who can afford the device. Not everybody buys a phone based on its hardware spec list either, I know I don't and that is also my subjective opinion. If somebody buys an Android device because they prefer the user experience then how can anybody argue with that? The same goes for me with iOS as we buy what we like.
There is no standard formula for buying a phone in a densely populated market. Lets face it there is not a rubbish phone at the high end of the market so if one companies marketing makes the draw, then that is only a problem for their competitors. Apple and Samsung are two of the best in this area and it just so happens they also make very good phones.
Sites like the Verge, Engadget and New York times will receive review units early from Apple. If they give any of those iProducts bad reviews they risk that early access thus lose page hits.
Look at the Nexus 6 reviews from yesterday. From sites like the Verge to blog sites like droid-life they all had their reviews live at around the same time; thats how it should be. Apple shows favoritism to these sites and then turns around and uses their comments on the big screen. Pretty sick if you ask me. When it comes to iProducts and theverge I don't pay any attention. They keep giving iPad scores over 9 yet sales are dropping each year.
Look at the Nexus 6 reviews from yesterday. From sites like the Verge to blog sites like droid-life they all had their reviews live at around the same time; thats how it should be. Apple shows favoritism to these sites and then turns around and uses their comments on the big screen. Pretty sick if you ask me. When it comes to iProducts and theverge I don't pay any attention. They keep giving iPad scores over 9 yet sales are dropping each year.
Agreed.....with Apple they assure positive reviews by manipulating the reviewers. Give Apple a not favorable review and you do not get products to review. You do not get invited to press releases. You lose access to display products. It like the communist countries that manipulate the media and internet in those countries. They only want the public to see their own propaganda.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/phablet-reviews-iphone-6-plus-and-before/
this is also worth mentioning. prior to ip6 and 6+ release, large screen phones were made fun of. tech blogs criticized LG, Samsung and others for large phones. but it's all kosher now. all of a sudden, large phones fits in pocket just fine, very usable...
this is also worth mentioning. prior to ip6 and 6+ release, large screen phones were made fun of. tech blogs criticized LG, Samsung and others for large phones. but it's all kosher now. all of a sudden, large phones fits in pocket just fine, very usable...
How about all the tech blogs and commenters that whined about Apple being behind the times with their "toy" phone, and then as soon as Apple releases a large screen phone, whined about Apple following the trend and copying Android?
Or, are we just going to disregard those?
That's to show how powerful is the influence of apple on the media.
Maybe now I am more convinced even if apple throws a dud out there will be many people who will lap it up as the most innovative piece.
Well the evidence is there to be seen. If other companies were to put out a flagship with just 1gb of Ram or a 8 mp camera then most probably everybody will deride the phone as a piece of junk.
But not apple 6/6+ which is lauded by many of these so called apple running dog reviewers as better than everything out there.
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No but like you said it wasn't really from "main stream respectable " media or anyone with Apple priviledges
Or if it was, they probably had priviledges revoked, like in the OP
I agree. It's not as if there is some massive disparity in opinions among reviewers.
Praise for the iPhone 6 is high among nearly all reviewers, and the criticisms for the iPhone 6 is pretty much the same for all reviewers as well.
There is just too much consistency among opinions to suggest Apple has this great hold on the industry.
Same for android phones. The consensus is typically so consistant among reviewers. Rarely is there is ever one overwhelmingly positive review in a sea of bad reviews.
Why? Really? This is the essence of freedom. People doing what THEY want to do, not what you want them to do.
The thing is the i6 camera is amongst the top on color rendition an dynamic range. And it seems android needs 3gb ram more than iphone. So what's your point.
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It is not the matter of whether it is a good 8mp camera or 3gb ram is not need. Fact is if such a specs came from other manufacturers do you think anyone would give it a second look before dismissing it? I doubt so.
Do I get my wish if I want iphone buyers to do what I wished for? Impossible if I am me.
But if I were apple which has countless of billions of cash and many media and reviewers under my influence, will I be able to sway people to buy a mediocre product by bombarding them with hypes? I would say I have a pretty good chance of success.
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Disregard what? The person you responded to started off with an actual link to backup their post.
Your post is obviously based on "commenters" you read in forums here. Not even remotely the same thing.
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Here's the deal - ANYONE can throw up a website and start reviewing devices. Maybe not previewing them, but that's not what we are talking about here. If you don't like a certain website, it's not like there aren't thousands more that will give you what you seek. If you don't like what you see, then start your own. Make the change yourself. Only review products that you like.
Just because the few that you like to go to provide good reviews to Apple devices, doesn't mean that everyone does.
So what about companies that pay people to write negative reviews about rival products and send people to queues at flagship Apple stores to troll the customers? I don't think we need to name the company, but let's not be naive here and suggest Apple are the only ones up to dirty tricks.
This is a cut throat industry and there is more than one company that favours reviewers and makes access to products easier if the end reviews are positive.
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But that is how marketing works isn't it? Do you really think they care they've contradicted themselves and are dwelling on what they've said in previous years? The only people who are bothered by this are the odd consumer who isn't even buying the products.
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