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Waiting to see this product from Apple. Expecting there to be substantial users if the price is right for the AR glasses.
 
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Apple should give out free phones turn all the cameras and microphones on all the time.
Data collection problem solved. Free phone calls and internet for me and data collection for them to sell to anyone of their choosing. What a world to live in.
 
Unfortunately Apple has fallen years behind in its development of products. This is evident in its foldable iPhone, Apple glasses etc
Hopefully Apple make up the time that it’s lost
At this point no miracle will happen.
Vision Pro was the final bubble burst, it told us Apple had no clue of what to do
 
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100%, I am shocked that this leaked because it’s a huge admission of not anticipating the market. It raises a very important question about Vision Pro – if AR glasses weren’t the end game, what was?
The vision pro was. It was very apparent when they presented Vision Pro with a suit of 2D apps, and no improvement on the core of VisionOS 2
 
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AR glasses are also not great because of how it works and how we use.

There are already AR glasses but they have many issues. FOV is one of the problem which is much narrower than pass through method.

But the most important issue is you will be distracted by AR while using an AR glasses which put you in danger while using and walking. Unless it works only if you stop moving, I dont think it's a good idea and it already contradicts the AR purpose which supposed to interact with the real environment.
Meta rayban was not really an AR glass
 
Imagine how far ahead Google would be if they didn’t kill Google glass.
Maybe it would be like Boston Dynamics, sold and quickly caught up by competitors.

It needed strong support from the founders who have near infinite decision power, like Mark Z
 
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So they are estimating the potential demand based on their employees thoughts? Makes sense why they are closing so many projects
 
Exactly, and they’ll probably end up canceling the project by year 14. ✌️

A phone is a solid object, it absolutely blocks vision. Glasses, i.e. transparent glass, simply will not block vision as much unless there's a way to make them fully opaque. Even the types of AR glasses that work by firing lasers into your eyes to project images don't block out your view like a 16 Pro Max will.
Agreed. And not only does a phone used as a camera block vision somewhat, it requires one to focus on the phone, not on the view.
 
But the most important issue is you will be distracted by AR while using an AR glasses which put you in danger while using and walking. Unless it works only if you stop moving, I dont think it's a good idea and it already contradicts the AR purpose which supposed to interact with the real environment.

Heads up displays in cars work just fine and actually add to the safety of driving.

From the linked article:

"...drivers may spend 0.5sec to 1.0sec glancing at the new display compared with 1.0sec to 2.0sec for a central infotainment screen or as much as 2.5sec to view a third-party smart device.

By coincidence, 2.0sec is a key timescale in relation to driving safely. The well-established ‘two-second rule’ is designed to make judging a safe distance easier by picking a spot on the side of the road and counting the time it takes to pass it after the car in front has."


Why would it be any different with AR glasses?
 
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Do I want to Vision Pro? No. it's too big & cumbersome for real use. But it was never meant to be purchased by a large market.

Do I want the Vision Pro technology if a much smaller physical form like glasses? Absolutely yes. To each their own but this is where tech is going eventually. It's going to take time to get this right, by any of the companies out there and will likely take the acquisition of smaller companies, their tech and integrating it with the Big Tech's company.

Agree.

Spatial computing has so many potential benefits that we can't even envision yet (much like we couldn't envision Uber or Snapchat before the iPhone came around).
 
AR is where they should have started. Much more useful IMO

I think Apple agrees on AR and I believe Tim Cook has said something to that effect in the past.

The issue is that the tech isn't ready for mainstream.

In the meantime, VisionOS gives Apple the opportunity to test the spatial computing OS in real world conditions.

You can only work on something in a lab for so long before you need to test it in the real world agains your assumptions.

Getting the OS and UX right are crucial components as technology catches up to make a viable AR product.
 
If they could just nail recording video well from glasses… I think that would be the biggest selling point.

Just don’t get too wrapped up in the AI stuff (which can be a fun secondary feature). But don’t lose focus on the important thing: Being able to record video from your eye level and simply by turning your head with your hands-free…. It’s kind of awesome.

Not to mention having a FaceTime video call, where your friend can see what you are looking at.
 
AR glasses are also not great because of how it works and how we use.

There are already AR glasses but they have many issues. FOV is one of the problem which is much narrower than pass through method.

But the most important issue is you will be distracted by AR while using an AR glasses which put you in danger while using and walking. Unless it works only if you stop moving, I dont think it's a good idea and it already contradicts the AR purpose which supposed to interact with the real environment.
I bet you'll be less distracted then when looking down on your phone while walking 😉
 
I think Apple agrees on AR and I believe Tim Cook has said something to that effect in the past.

The issue is that the tech isn't ready for mainstream.

In the meantime, VisionOS gives Apple the opportunity to test the spatial computing OS in real world conditions.

You can only work on something in a lab for so long before you need to test it in the real world agains your assumptions.

Getting the OS and UX right are crucial components as technology catches up to make a viable AR product.
Essentially they have neither product at this time as Vision was a tremendous flop. They chose unwisely where to dump the resources.
 
AR is where they should have started. Much more useful IMO
How is AR useful for the average person? I really struggle to find something that can't already be done nearly as well with the iPhone?

What would be the use case for me to buy an expensive pair of glasses that I'm more likely to break, scratch or lose over using my iPhone?

Not trying to be an ass but really curios.
 
Hmm. A focus group made up of Apple employees. Likely a self-selecting group too. Not exactly representative of the market.

Hey Apple, your customers are out here!
 
Essentially they have neither product at this time as Vision was a tremendous flop. They chose unwisely where to dump the resources.


You think they priced it at 3500 and thought they would make it a massive consumer hit? LOL1

You think there's nothing of value or learning there that might be useful later? LOL2
 
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No need to waste time and money on focus groups as I can tell you right now:

NO mass market.
Product will die faster than the useless Vision Pro.

You’re welcome.
Shortsighted and ignorant. There are currently around 12 million hard of hearing or deaf people and that’s just in the UK. Extrapolate that world wide and provide glasses that have realtime text translation of conversations as well as couples with the new AirPod pro hearing features and you have an instant mass adoption multibillion dollar market.
There’s probably a reason you don’t make the big decisions.
 
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It’s going to suck when these things become mainstream. Imagine how much more insufferable people will be with constant tech and cameras discreetly recording all the time from their face. At least today with smartphones you have to impose by holding a phone up.
Discreet recording sounds awesome :p course ya they wont allow that so there will be some obnoxious light or something. So sick of people holding phones over their heads at concerts
 
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It will fail and be a waste of money.

As someone who wears glasses, I change mine every couple of years for a different look and colour.
Glasses are a personal choice.

I would not want to be wearing heavy glasses all day long.

It is the same as the ring idea, who wants to wear a clunky ring that does not a lot.

Come up with a new phone idea instead.
 
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