Yea. 26.3% growth year to date. HorribleI'm pretty sure based on their stock price performance, they are not doing as well as they could.
Yea. 26.3% growth year to date. HorribleI'm pretty sure based on their stock price performance, they are not doing as well as they could.
LOL! Maybe they should hire you? LOL?
I own their stock and am very happy. I bought 1275 shares at around $59 in 2013.
Tell me again about their stock performance. Stick to something you have knowledge of.
I will bet on Apple any day.
That is true, but it is also true Apple stock had a rough 2015 and 2016.Yea. 26.3% growth year to date. Horrible
I think it's fair to say that most computers in general are used as consumption devices--so it stands to reason that the same would be true for iPad.
When you consider how many consumers are still perfectly content with a pre-air iPad--even iPad 2's--I think it's fair to say that Apple's strategy makes sense. The average consumer doesn't care about quad speakers, laminate displays or anti-reflective coatings. They don't even clean the damn things
Apple should keep pursuing their crazy dreams of a tablet replacing my 16GB RAM MacBook Pro. They just need to bring back sane pricing on a consumption-oriented tablet with great consumption features.
Apple tried that already and they failed. Consumers are no longer willing to pay $499 for an iPad. Apple isn't willing to make a $399 iPad with great consumption features.
The new iPad (2017) is $329 for the base 32GB wifi model. That's a great price for a more consumption oriented device, and it has great performance, a Retina display, and great apps (iOS is streets ahead of android when it comes to tablet form factor apps)
Yeah, I'm thinking of getting that for my wife for her bday gift. She doesn't really have any need for a stylus, and keyboard but the larger display of the iPad (as opposed to the 2nd gen mini she's using) will help her.The new iPad (2017) is $329 for the base 32GB wifi model.
The “Pro” in iPad Pro stands for “profit” not “professional”. That’s why.A recent poll on mac rumors yielded these results:
Buying 10.5 IPP for content consumption: 40%
Buying 10.5 for laptop replacement: 19%
Buying 12.9 for content: 20%
Buying 12.9 as laptop replacement: 21%
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/which-do-you-prefer-12-9-or-10-5.2049850/
While the sample sizes are small, I think it is safe to say iPads are still primarily used as consumption devices.
There are many features specific to my iPad Pro that have nothing to do with my work, but everything to do with content consumption, fun, and entertainment:
- Quad speakers are great for movies and music. Especially music.
- true tone display is great for reading
- pro motion looks appealing for reading and movies
I think Apple is making a mistake by excluding consumption features from their non-pro device. They should be basing their iPad strategy on what people want. And people want excellent consumption machines.
I bought a used iPad 9.7 pro when I saw iPad 9.7 lacked quad speakers and has what I will call a 'non-amazing' screen. The 9.7 IPP has been the consumption device of my dreams.
I can no longer bring myself to spend 850-950 dollars on a consumption device ( which I personally view as a luxury toy) that I'm going to replace in one or two years. There is just no value proposition for me. It's not that I can't afford it- I bought the first retina iPad new, bought an iPad mini 4 new. But those devices just didn't get enough use to truly justify their high price tags, especially my first iPad, the retina. The issue is that I feel I am being ripped off, a feeling I don't get with iPhone or MacBook pro. I don't need keyboard support, pen support, or a processor capable of swiftly editing 4K video. I just want an amazing screen and loud speakers for a reasonable price.
I get that apple wants to have have a 'simple' lineup that doesn't 'confuse' , but honestly .. They and we need to consider the notion that people who buy apple products are not necessarily unintelligent, are frequently intelligent, and could wrap their heads around a three-tier iPad lineup: iPad, iPad Pro, and iPad SE.
I use a 2015 MacBook Pro 13" 16GB RAM for work. The iPad Pro isn't a pro machine as far as my individual uses are concerned. The iPad can't drive two external displays. It cannot run windows in a virtual machine. Excel is not as good on iOS as MacOS.
Apple should keep pursuing their crazy dreams of a tablet replacing my 16GB RAM MacBook Pro. They just need to bring back sane pricing on a consumption-oriented tablet with great consumption features.
Apple could consider adding a backlit keyboard, external monitor support via lightning, dual or even triple lightning ports, external gpu support, and other features to the iPad pro model to make room for a consumption iPad that reflects how most iPads are used.
Agreed, so what’s Holding them Back From Implmenting Mouse Support ? That’s what keeping me from going all IPad for Productivity standpoint.Apple tried that already and they failed. Consumers are no longer willing to pay $499 for an iPad. Apple isn't willing to make a $399 iPad with great consumption features.
Let's look Apple's iPad sales data. The iPad Air (2013) was the last tablet from Apple that resulted in growth in units sold. The iPad mini 3, mini 4, and Air 2 resulted in lower units sold. It's not a coincidence Apple killed the Air and is killing the mini.
If you look at the big picture, content consumption is what's killing the iPad and Apple's margins. It's not an activity that encourages consumers to buy a new tablet every 24 months. Apple isn't stupid. They know their tablets are being used largely for content consumption at home. But that's exactly what's causing the stagnation of iPad sales.
Every year, phablets and tablets get better. iPad is under attack by iPhone and cheap tablets from Amazon. The growth of the Kindle and Fire tablets tells you consumers find these $80 tablets good enough for consumption use. Apple can't possibly fight in that space.
Apple's strategy for the iPad is to make it a productivity device. The market for a "consumption only" tablet has been ceded to phablets and cheap Android tablets.
They may feel its not neccessary, and its a legacy device that's not needed for touch first products like the iPad.so what’s Holding them Back From Implmenting Mouse Support ?
Ipad pro 10.5 starts at $650 and will easily last 4 years. Ipad 9.7 has less features because Apple wants to provide a lower buy in point for consumers less willing to spend. Seems fair to me.I can no longer bring myself to spend 850-950 dollars on a consumption device ( which I personally view as a luxury toy) that I'm going to replace in one or two years. There is just no value proposition for me. It's not that I can't afford it...
Not really.iOS 11 will make the iPad Pro more professional and being able to allow more and more people to use it for work.
I would seriously ask why we care anymore...
Here’s the thing about this argument - it produces nothing. People who think “the iPad is just a consumption device” won’t be persuaded by a poll on a message board, or even (many) solid examples of people using it as a creation device (any base acknowledgment is followed by “well, it’s not REAL work...”).
Not only that, but asking what the “primary” purpose of the device isn’t useful either. If you say you’re going to spend 60% consuming and 40% creating (which, to be honest, is a high percentage for even a dedicated work machine, depending on your definitions of consume vs. create), then the response is “okay, so you view it as a consumption device”... which is not necessarily true because it ignores the 40% creation.
This is NOT black and white, and trying to define it as such only tries to justify an anti-iPad opinion.
One problem with this poll is that it assumes that content consumption and work are two different things. They are not. There are a lot of professional people that spend a fair amount of productive work time consuming content:
- Reading Emails and Messages
- Reading and Reviewing documents and PDFs
- Scheduling and Planning Event
- Reading Books and Professional Journals
- Web Research
Also, “Light Content Creation” is a big part of doing work and is very compatible with iPad:
The lists go on and on.
- Responding to Emails and Messages
- Marking up and Annotating Documents and PDFs
- Taking Notes
- Drafting Memos and Outling Reports
- Simple Spreadsheets for “on the fly” business calculations
For some people, the iPad has replaced a Laptop because most of their work activities away from the office are mainly content consumption and light content creation. For these folks, they prefer the iPad’s form factor and mobile OS for work when they are....you know....mobile. They save the heavy lifting for their desktop computer back at the Office.
PS - There are plenty of highly paid professionals that spend a huge part of their work day at client sites or engaged in “meet and deal” activities. These folks might spend less than 20% of their time working in the Office on a traditional computer. For some, if they are sitting in their office at their computer, they probably aren’t doing their job.
Apple's strategy for the iPad is to make it a productivity device.
Either you are wrong or you are right and they are doing a horrible job at it.
1. Horrible background process support / horrible app utilization of shaky background refresh capabilities
2. No mouse support
3. Still lacking file system even with Files app
4. Horrible file transfer to and from capabilities
These reasons is why I still haven’t replaced my IPad Air 1 even though it is horribly slow and will probably buy a low weight 2 in 1 in 2018 when the Qualcomm laptops come out and more quad core 13 inch laptops are made.
Either you are wrong or you are right and they are doing a horrible job at it.
1. Horrible background process support / horrible app utilization of shaky background refresh capabilities
2. No mouse support
3. Still lacking file system even with Files app
4. Horrible file transfer to and from capabilities
These reasons is why I still haven’t replaced my IPad Air 1 even though it is horribly slow and will probably buy a low weight 2 in 1 in 2018 when the Qualcomm laptops come out and more quad core 13 inch laptops are made.