Clearly, Apple are capable. Clearly they haven’t done it. So what you say doesn’t stack up. Apple, clearly care more about developers than those who, in your words, ‘don’t give a toss' about the people and companies who make the iPad so good. As an iPad user, I give a damn about developers and am happy to pay for a quality app that I use almost daily. You can always use Siri. good luck with that.
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Apple's Work on Touchscreen Macs: What We Know So Far
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with a touchscreen per se and it’s perfect for a tablet. I just see it being useless on a laptop, and no one has, or is likely to perfect the use to make it seamless imo. It’s good for quick scrolling and that’s it. Gimmick at best.
You might want to do your research before claiming what other people say doesn't stack up. Craig Federighi said they hadn't gotten around to doing a calculator app because they wanted to do something "really great", where people would say "wow, that's the greatest iPad calculator app".
If you think they're doing it out of charity not to step on the toes of developers who've already made calculator apps, you should read up on Apple's long history of releasing features that made popular apps redundant. The term 'Sherlocked' exists for a reason.
Apple’s stance was that smaller screens are superior for one-handed use so the ad wasn’t wrong. How securely can you hold a 14 Pro Max with one hand while trying to operate its entire screen with that same hand? People have just accepted the compromises of an inferior operational experience to get a large screen.I'm waiting to see all those who say NO refuse to buy an Apple Laptop in perhaps 10+ years time when every model supports a touchscreen?
Perhaps it will be the same group who got all angry when there were suggestions that Apple may one day build a LARGE iPhone that was too big to operate fully with one hand.
Remember the ad....
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We can disagree on this part. I am curious have you ever used a touchscreen laptop?
How about one converts to a tablet or folds like the one in the picture below? It is touchscreen and adds the functionality of a laptop and tablet really into an all in one device. It brings the screen closer to you if you are just sitting on the sofa or in bed and watching content like YouTube. I would love love to have a 15 inch MacBook Air that did this....
I love my 14 ProMax with my large hands like a real mini ipad LOL. So you still have an Amiga eh, I used to have all the models back in the day until I got the Mac emulator one day and moved into Apple as Amiga died.I'm waiting to see all those who say NO refuse to buy an Apple Laptop in perhaps 10+ years time when every model supports a touchscreen?
Perhaps it will be the same group who got all angry when there were suggestions that Apple may one day build a LARGE iPhone that was too big to operate fully with one hand.
Remember the ad....
This is the way…..We can disagree on this part. I am curious have you ever used a touchscreen laptop?
How about one converts to a tablet or folds like the one in the picture below? It is touchscreen and adds the functionality of a laptop and tablet really into an all in one device. It brings the screen closer to you if you are just sitting on the sofa or in bed and watching content like YouTube. I would love love to have a 15 inch MacBook Air that did this....
I know a huge portion of people seem to want a touchscreen on their mac, but I don't.
First, I don't want the interface to be geared towards touch. I like efficient use of space, and touch screen typically requires larger interface items to work with a finger which makes for a less efficient use of screen real estate. I firmly believe the UI should focus on the product it's being used on specifically and not be the same across the board. Using the same design queues to help make using different devices more intuitive is fine and good, but I don't want a touch focused UI on a mac.
Second, I don't want fingerprints on my screen. I like my iPad, but I can't stand all the fingerprints it attracts and am constantly cleaning it off. Same for my phone, but in those cases I understand it's a trade-off that's required for those form factors. I do not want to make that trade-off on mac, although I could just disable the touch screen so this is less of an issue for me.
First, I don't want the interface to be geared towards touch. I like efficient use of space, and touch screen typically requires larger interface items to work with a finger which makes for a less efficient use of screen real estate. I firmly believe the UI should focus on the product it's being used on specifically and not be the same across the board. Using the same design queues to help make using different devices more intuitive is fine and good, but I don't want a touch focused UI on a mac.
Second, I don't want fingerprints on my screen. I like my iPad, but I can't stand all the fingerprints it attracts and am constantly cleaning it off. Same for my phone, but in those cases I understand it's a trade-off that's required for those form factors. I do not want to make that trade-off on mac, although I could just disable the touch screen so this is less of an issue for me.
The problem is it will come with UI changes that taylor themselves to Touch. I don't want a Touch centric UI on a mac. That's the bigger issue.
Oh, so they’re bringing back old, sold-off tech from 30 years ago. It has nothing to do with what competitors are doing today.
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Yeah, I saw that when he said it. It was in the MKBHD interview. Maybe you should watch the entire interview instead of cherry picking, because his comments were all marketing. But he’s hardly going to say he was not doing the app because 'developers', otherwise he is saying Apple won’t do any apps because ‘developers’.
Move on. Apple are not building an iPad App.
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I take back my "gimmick at best" comment with interest. I was wrong. Gimmick was the incorrect word. I’d say more "niche"
Yeah I have. Is that the latest yoga? It’s nice annd probably very functional for watching content and working.
My thing is, that I prefer something light when I am carrying it around using the LiDAR (when I was doing Floorplans a year ago). But when I was photoshopping my real estate photo's or stitching panoramas, I wanted a bit of beef to get it done. Which means I needed the computer to be able to handle the workload whilst connecting to an external monitor.
Also having the 2 devices, means I can zip around on the iPad for certain things, maybe even watching specific method tutorials whilst applying the learnings directly on to the laptop.
Saying all that (how short my memory is). We used these Panasonic Tough Books in the police (I took an early retirement 2 years ago). They were really good for working, and uploading images (I was a CSI), although had no grunt, but we didn’t need the grunt. Naturally photoshopping a crime scene image wasn’t done. 😂 It was all about data collection and uploading. And it worked well. They were so tough and suited our needs perfectly.
Edit: I also forgot. I had to buy my own keyboard for the tough book because the one on it was horrible and the soft keyboard was next to useless.
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I'm just going by a) what he said and b) Apple's strong history of releasing features that make existing third party products redundant.
There's not a shred of evidence or even compelling information to back your take that Apple has avoided an iPad calculator app in order not to step on calculator app developers. It's pure conjecture based on nothing but wishful thinking.
Did you Google "Apple Sherlocked"?
I take it your livelihood must be tied to a calculator app to start accusing me of that. I just think this is such a bizarre hill to die on otherwise.
And if you are, Apple is probably going to Sherlock you eventually.
More obscurantism. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. It doesn't really bother me, I'm just pointing out that there's not one single thing backing what you said.
That's just classic projection.
The fact is there is not one shred of a reason to believe your claim that them not making a calculator app is to not step on the toes of developers. If you look at Apple's history, and what Apple has actually said, there's just no reason to come to the conclusion you did. Think what you want, but if you put out a claim like that publicly people are going to respond to it.
So, not much. I suppose I would like them to do a calculator app, but I don't really care.
Or I'll keep talking about the fact that Sherlocking is a widely recognised term because Apple routinely behaves in the exact way you're claiming they aren't.
No worries.
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Well for one thing, that tech doesn't come free and when you see the markup Apple puts on internal components now, that is going to translate into much more expensive Macbooks for a feature I am sure most users will totally ignore - as they do on Windows.
Seems like there's a ton of people here that don't realize you could just turn the feature off if you don't like it....