Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 $60 & Duo $100 after rebate ends 3/31/15

hfg · Mar 29, 2015

Here is a single Samsung 840EVO 1TB SSD on the Velocity DUO card in slot-3:

H2SO4 · Mar 29, 2015

hfg said:
Here is a single Samsung 840EVO 1TB SSD on the Velocity DUO card in slot-3:

Now that’s what I should be getting. I’ve got the same Mac with the card mounted in the same slot, I’ve even got the same drive.

hfg · Mar 29, 2015

H2SO4 said:
Now thats what I should be getting. Ive got the same Mac with the card mounted in the same slot, Ive even got the same drive.

Have you recently done a "forced TRIM" on your SSD? Maybe with all the testing, etc. it simply has become full and hasn't had a chance to clean up the array.

H2SO4 · Mar 29, 2015

hfg said:
Have you recently done a "forced TRIM" on your SSD? Maybe with all the testing, etc. it simply has become full and hasn't had a chance to clean up the array.

Nope. Was a brand new drive, first thing I did was use the official Samsung tool to update the firmware.

flowrider · Mar 29, 2015

No Raid. Left is an 500GB 840 EVO that I tested when I had a Solo x2, Right is an 512GB 840 Pro on a Duo x2. Virtually the same.

Lou

adam9c1 · Mar 29, 2015

This is from my 4,1

pci1b4b,9182:

Type: AHCI Controller
Driver Installed: Yes
MSI: Yes
Bus: PCI
Slot: Slot-2
Vendor ID: 0x1b4b
Device ID: 0x9182
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x1b4b
Subsystem ID: 0x9182
Revision ID: 0x0011
Link Width: x2
Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s

DEMinSoCAL · Mar 29, 2015

flowrider said:
No Raid. Left is an 500GB 840 EVO that I tested when I had a Solo x2, Right is an 512GB 840 Pro on a Duo x2. Virtually the same.

Lou

So, you have a Duo but only one drive on it?

flowrider · Mar 29, 2015

^^^^No, I have two Duo's. All SSDs are Samsung. One Duo has an original Series 840 500 GB and a 500GB 840 EVO. The other has a 512GB 840 Pro and a 500 GB 840 EVO.

But none of my SSDs are Raided.

Lou

adam9c1 · Mar 29, 2015

Can you run the Duo for two separate volumes and one of them is the boot vol?

flowrider · Mar 30, 2015

^^^^Yes. That's how mine is setup.

Lou

adam9c1 · Mar 30, 2015

How does the Duo compare to the Solo x2 (solo has a 2nd sata port)
I could get a sata power splitter and run another drive off of that, right?

using something like this...

http://www.atechfabrication.com/images/htpc/products/HDD_Mounts_004-1024.jpg

DEMinSoCAL · Mar 30, 2015

adam9c1 said:
How does the Duo compare to the Solo x2 (solo has a 2nd sata port)
I could get a sata power splitter and run another drive off of that, right?

using something like this...

http://www.atechfabrication.com/images/htpc/products/HDD_Mounts_004-1024.jpg

Yes, you can run a 2nd drive off the SATA port of the Solo x2, but it seems by the time you buy that adapter and all, wouldn't it be a cleaner setup to just have the single card DUO instead?

I have two SOLO x2's with one drive each, but that is to get a bit more speed out of the RAID set compared to the max allowed by the DUO. We could sure use a DUO with higher max bandwidth...why capped at 880MB/s?

m4v3r1ck · Mar 30, 2015

DUO x2!!!

dmylrea said:
Yes, you can run a 2nd drive off the SATA port of the Solo x2, but it seems by the time you buy that adapter and all, wouldn't it be a cleaner setup to just have the single card DUO instead?

I have two SOLO x2's with one drive each, but that is to get a bit more speed out of the RAID set compared to the max allowed by the DUO. We could sure use a DUO with higher max bandwidth...why capped at 880MB/s?

Agree with @dmylrea on the much cleaner setup (no cable spaghetti) in a MP with the DUO x2. User of the DUO x2 since the beta card I was very lucky to test-drive. Exchanged the beta with a final release card. Not the fastest PCIe solution ATM, but still very happy with the no-hassle install and usage icm 840 EVO SSD's using OSX 10.10.1 and Windows 8 Pro. Highly recommended.

Non-Raided 840 EVO @ DUOx2

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Goodluck choosing your card!

Cheers

adam9c1 · Mar 30, 2015

dmylrea said:
Yes, you can run a 2nd drive off the SATA port of the Solo x2, but it seems by the time you buy that adapter and all, wouldn't it be a cleaner setup to just have the single card DUO instead?

I have two SOLO x2's with one drive each, but that is to get a bit more speed out of the RAID set compared to the max allowed by the DUO. We could sure use a DUO with higher max bandwidth...why capped at 880MB/s?

I already have a Solo x2.
and I think I'll have a "spare" 32G SSD available soon.
I think I could stick this in and run a a Fusion VMware machine off of it.

H2SO4 · Apr 2, 2015

m4v3r1ck said:
Agree with @dmylrea on the much cleaner setup (no cable spaghetti) in a MP with the DUO x2. User of the DUO x2 since the beta card I was very lucky to test-drive. Exchanged the beta with a final release card. Not the fastest PCIe solution ATM, but still very happy with the no-hassle install and usage icm 840 EVO SSD's using OSX 10.10.1 and Windows 8 Pro. Highly recommended.

Non-Raided 840 EVO @ DUOx2

Image

Goodluck choosing your card!

Cheers

I can see your read/write speeds. There must be something wrong with my set up. You ain’t the only one that seems to be running at full chat. What slot are you in?

m4v3r1ck · Apr 2, 2015

Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 $60 & Duo $100 after rebate ends 3/31/15

H2SO4 said:
I can see your read/write speeds. There must be something wrong with my set up. You aint the only one that seems to be running at full chat. What slot are you in?

In my cMP 5.1 (2012) it's in PCIe slot #3. Here are my test results for a Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD on J2 on the DUO x2 in Bootcamped Windows 8 Pro x64 non-RAID & NO RAPID mode!

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H2SO4 · Apr 23, 2015

m4v3r1ck said:
In my cMP 5.1 (2012) it's in PCIe slot #3. Here are my test results for a Samsung 840 EVO 500GB SSD on J2 on the DUO x2 in Bootcamped Windows 8 Pro x64 non-RAID & NO RAPID mode!

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So far the people I’ve seen, (only a couple mind), with problems seem to be running Subsystem ID: 0x9182, I’m 9230.
Apricorn mailed me a firmware update yesterday. I’ve got to boot from a USB to install tho. I’ll put it in my old DOS box for that.

m4v3r1ck · Apr 26, 2015

H2SO4 said:
So far the people Ive seen, (only a couple mind), with problems seem to be running Subsystem ID: 0x9182, Im 9230.
Apricorn mailed me a firmware update yesterday. Ive got to boot from a USB to install tho. Ill put it in my old DOS box for that.

I'm lacking the know-how about your "Subsystem ID: 0x9182, Im 9230" issue. Would you mind explaining that and did you manage to successfully install your new firmware from Apricorn? Thanks!

Cheers

H2SO4 · Apr 26, 2015

m4v3r1ck said:
I'm lacking the know-how about your "Subsystem ID: 0x9182, I’m 9230" issue. Would you mind explaining that and did you manage to successfully install your new firmware from Apricorn? Thanks!

Cheers

Whilst it didn’t appear to solve my problem and none of the revisions or IDs have changed. I did apply the update by booting into Windows. Now when I did the flash I used a DOSBox not my Mac. You’ll also need a thumb drive.
The process was;
Download the zip file here, (it contains a Win98 Boot folder, the flash files themselves and an HP Thumb Drive Utility).
1. Unzip the folder and place the three separate items on your desktop.
2. Install the thumb drive utility.
3. Run the utility as Admin. Select your drive from the drop down if you have more than one present. Set the file system to FAT32. Choose Quick Format. Choose Create a DOS startup disk. Click the button and choose the folder called win98boot.
4. Close the utility and open the thumb drive in Windows explorer, (it’ll appear to be empty). Copy the 1058 folder to the drive.
Shutdown the computer.
6. Restart with the drive plugged in and when you get the option to choose a different start up drive choose the thumb drive, (I got the option by pressing F12 during boot - I’m not sure if you can do this from the Mac by option booting).
7. It will boot to a C:\ prompt. cd to the 1058 directory by typing cd 1058.
8. Type dir to make sure your flash files are there.
9. Type go.
10. Sit back and enjoy the show. (It’ll be a short one).

m4v3r1ck · Apr 26, 2015

H2SO4 said:
Whilst it didnt appear to solve my problem and none of the revisions or IDs have changed. I did apply the update by booting into Windows. Now when I did the flash I used a DOSBox not my Mac. Youll also need a thumb drive.
The process was;
Download the zip file here, (it contains a Win98 Boot folder, the flash files themselves and an HP Thumb Drive Utility).
1. Unzip the folder and place the three separate items on your desktop.
2. Install the thumb drive utility.
3. Run the utility as Admin. Select your drive from the drop down if you have more than one present. Set the file system to FAT32. Choose Quick Format. Choose Create a DOS startup disk. Click the button and choose the folder called win98boot.
4. Close the utility and open the thumb drive in Windows explorer, (itll appear to be empty). Copy the 1058 folder to the drive.
Shutdown the computer.
6. Restart with the drive plugged in and when you get the option to choose a different start up drive choose the thumb drive, (I got the option by pressing F12 during boot - Im not sure if you can do this from the Mac by option booting).
7. It will boot to a C:\ prompt. cd to the 1058 directory by typing cd 1058.
8. Type dir to make sure your flash files are there.
9. Type go.
10. Sit back and enjoy the show. (Itll be a short one).

Thanks a lot for your workflow and provided links. Appreciated!!!

Is my assumption correct that due to the installation of a NON-EFI GTX-670 I can't read out the "PCI" section of System Profiler?

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Is there another know application to read out the "PCI" section of my MP 5.1?

Found the Terminal code:

Code:

Last login: Sun Apr 26 14:38:57 on console
You have mail.
MACPRO:~ $ [B][COLOR="SeaGreen"]system_profiler SPPCIDataType[/COLOR][/B]
2015-04-26 16:54:41.118 system_profiler[17256:2909777] Property list invalid for format: 200 (property list dictionaries may only have keys which are CFStrings, not 'CFNumber')
2015-04-26 16:54:41.119 system_profiler[17256:2909777] *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: 'data parameter is nil'
*** First throw call stack:
(
	0   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff972a066c __exceptionPreprocess + 172
	1   libobjc.A.dylib                     0x00007fff9949076e objc_exception_throw + 43
	2   CoreFoundation                      0x00007fff972a051d +[NSException raise:format:] + 205
	3   Foundation                          0x00007fff9077ffaf +[NSPropertyListSerialization propertyListWithData:options:format:error:] + 67
	4   SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0b07a -[SPDocument _setReport:forDataType:] + 97
	5   SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0b43a -[SPDocument _reportFromBundlesForDataType:] + 690
	6   SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0ba47 -[SPDocument reportForDataType:] + 180
	7   SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0bd01 __34-[SPDocument reportsForDataTypes:]_block_invoke + 68
	8   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94bea344 _dispatch_client_callout2 + 8
	9   libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94bea873 _dispatch_apply_serial + 42
	10  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94bdec13 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
	11  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be99a1 _dispatch_sync_f_invoke + 39
	12  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be9f60 dispatch_apply_f + 290
	13  SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0bb55 -[SPDocument reportsForDataTypes:] + 234
	14  SPSupport                           0x0000000100f0ed66 -[SPDocument xmlPropertyListRepresentationForDataTypes:] + 27
	15  system_profiler                     0x0000000100ef9865 system_profiler + 18533
	16  system_profiler                     0x0000000100ef9a6c system_profiler + 19052
	17  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be3323 _dispatch_call_block_and_release + 12
	18  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94bdec13 _dispatch_client_callout + 8
	19  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be2365 _dispatch_queue_drain + 1100
	20  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be3ecc _dispatch_queue_invoke + 202
	21  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94be16b7 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 463
	22  libdispatch.dylib                   0x00007fff94beffe4 _dispatch_worker_thread3 + 91
	23  libsystem_pthread.dylib             0x00007fff95c46637 _pthread_wqthread + 729
	24  libsystem_pthread.dylib             0x00007fff95c4440d start_wqthread + 13
)
libc++abi.dylib: terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException
2015-04-26 16:54:42.422 system_profiler[17255:2909768] Non-zero termination status from '/usr/sbin/system_profiler -nospawn -xml SPPCIDataType -detailLevel full', termination status: 6
MACPRO:~$

But even this gives me a PCI read out error. Any directions?

EDIT: the Terminal command:

Code:

system_profiler SPUSBDataType

does give a good readout for USB.

Cheers

H2SO4 · Apr 26, 2015

m4v3r1ck said:
Thanks a lot for your workflow and provided links. Appreciated!!!

Is my assumption correct that due to the installation of a NON-EFI GTX-670 I can't read out the "PCI" section of System Profiler?

Is there another know application to read out the "PCI" section of my MP 5.1?

Found the Terminal code:

Code:

Last login: Sun Apr 26 14:38:57 on console You have mail. MACPRO:~ $ [B][COLOR="SeaGreen"]system_profiler SPPCIDataType[/COLOR][/B]

But even this gives me a PCI read out error. Any directions?

EDIT: the Terminal command:

Code:

system_profiler SPUSBDataType

does give a good readout for USB.

Cheers

Im not sure whats wrong with your PCI bus, do you have another card of any sort that you can insert?

As for other applications, I know of none on the Mac side though Im sure there are plenty for Windows.

crjackson2134 · Apr 28, 2015

H2SO4 said:
So far the people Ive seen, (only a couple mind), with problems seem to be running Subsystem ID: 0x9182, Im 9230.

I have the 0x9182 Subsystem ID: and I don't have any issues with the Solo X2. The speeds are as expected at just under 500GB/s in BlackMagic Speed test.

H2SO4 · Apr 28, 2015

crjackson2134 said:
I have the 0x9182 Subsystem ID: and I don't have any issues with the Solo X2. The speeds are as expected at just under 500GB/s in BlackMagic Speed test.

EEEEKK!! Back to square one.

Marcosmach · Apr 29, 2015

Sorry to hijack. When you have your boot system running off the Apricorn Velocity Solo x2, does the Mac Pro runs warmer comparing to having the System running off the regular Sata bay?

Thanks

H2SO4 · Apr 29, 2015

Marcosmach said:
Sorry to hijack. When you have your boot system running off the Apricorn Velocity Solo x2, does the Mac Pro runs warmer comparing to having the System running off the regular Sata bay?

Thanks

Not that Ive noticed. The only thing I can suggest is that maybe its retsricting flow to the GPU?

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