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Are iMac M3 sales disappointing?
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You just gotta know how terms to search for. "CIRP Mac Data" got me these. I didn't read them, but they're based on third party reports.
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What is Apple's most popular Mac? Here's the latest data - 9to5Mac
CIRP has released its latest report today on the Mac lineup. Looking at the mix of models owned by customers,...
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Mac laptops responsible for growing Apple's computing business | AppleInsider
Apple's Mac laptops have taken over as the company's growth driver for its personal computer business, with the MacBook Pro in the lead.
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Apple Statistics (2024)
Apple is one of the most influential and recognisable brands in the world, responsible for the rise of the smartphone with the iPhone. Valued at over $2 trillion in 2021, it is also the most valuable technology company in the world. Originally known for desktop computers, Apple was one of the...
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Thanks for that! This is great.You just gotta know how terms to search for. "CIRP Mac Data" got me these. I didn't read them, but they're based on third party reports.
What is Apple's most popular Mac? Here's the latest data - 9to5Mac
CIRP has released its latest report today on the Mac lineup. Looking at the mix of models owned by customers,...
Mac laptops responsible for growing Apple's computing business | AppleInsider
Apple's Mac laptops have taken over as the company's growth driver for its personal computer business, with the MacBook Pro in the lead.
Apple Statistics (2024)
Apple is one of the most influential and recognisable brands in the world, responsible for the rise of the smartphone with the iPhone. Valued at over $2 trillion in 2021, it is also the most valuable technology company in the world. Originally known for desktop computers, Apple was one of the...
Pasting a picture from the first link for everyone to see
10% is not bad at all. As the total Mac revenue in 2023 is roughly of $30bn, iMac sales are a whopping $3bn!
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May I ask why you felt you needed to upgrade and how much money did you lose? In light daily tasks, I don't think there should be any noticeable difference between M1 and M3?
What really jumps out at me on the chart is that iMac and Mac Pro are essentially identical in market share.
I'm assuming that the chart is showing Revenue rather than Units Sold, and it takes at least 3 iMacs to equal the cost of one Mac Pro.
But, even so, the iMac was supposed to be an ubiquitous mass-market device and the Mac Pro sort of a niche product.
I'm assuming that the chart is showing Revenue rather than Units Sold, and it takes at least 3 iMacs to equal the cost of one Mac Pro.
But, even so, the iMac was supposed to be an ubiquitous mass-market device and the Mac Pro sort of a niche product.
It was... until the MBA become the go-to Mac for young people
That old data about the Mac Pro is of course out of date. It is from when the Mac Studio was on its first model.
Regardless, mobile devices is the heart of Apple's business. Desktop machines will continue to fade, industry wide, in importance.
I am really surprised that the mac pro is 8x that of the Studio. Or is that based on price not units?
First, it's revenue share. Secondly, the data is old now, coming from when the Studio was new.
People generally buying the 24-iMacs generally do not care about performance for most of the activities they do. They just require a good all-in-one desktop with a good display. So when the M3 iMac came out, there is really no compelling reason for people on M1 iMacs to upgrade. A lot of use were waiting for the 27-inch or 32-inch iMac with the more powerful chips.
Not knowing the latest data doesn’t change the old data.
And it’s not likely it changed that much.
If I find the newest data in a year for this year, will it still be old data then?
Yeah I was definitely waiting for 27". M1 came out and no 27" I waited. My old Late 2013 21" was struggling but I could deal with it still. M3 and no 27" and none for the foreseeable future, it was time to buy and replace my 10 year old iMac. 24" is perfectly fine. Slightly bigger than the 21" and my eyes aren't that screwed up yet at my age. So I maxed out the iMac RAM and 2TB SSD and I'm good to go for another 10 years. lol
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I am enjoying my new M3 iMac which I got in November. It is an awesome machine, very fast and the display is very clear and sharp. I'd say it is excellent in every way but not appearance. The plastic housing looks very cheap compared to my old aluminum model. Mine is green to go with the decor.
That cheap appearance might be deliberate to encourage people to buy something more expensive. Or it is cost savings…
I have two 5K displays (LG and Apple Studio) so for now I don’t need any all in one computer. I’m not sure what my next desktop might be but right now what I have covers the needs and is reliable and fast.
A powerful 32” iMac might be interesting for me but not with fixed RAM that isn’t possible to upgrade later. Easy internal support for NVME storage (engineer some slots accessible by removing a cover) would be excellent.
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We're also in an economic situation with rampant inflation and people are worried about stuff like car/mortgage repayments and job security.
Sounds like you are in Australia - and if so that's a very valid point.
People are paying AUD$5000-6000 per month on home mortgage payments. Folk have AUD$2.5m or $3.0m mortgages.
And others cannot even get rental accommodation. They certainly won't be spending a lot on new computers.
I'm not in that much strife (only 350k owing and both my partner and i are on decent money) but yes, and its not just Australia.
Unlike in the USA our mortgages are not fixed for full term (normally variable or fixed for 12/whatever months only) so interest rates are a big thing here for all mortgage holders, not just new buyers. Sound crazy? Pretty standard here. Yes our property market/economy is very sensitive to interest rates.
I've seen my mortgage repayments increase by 50% over the past 12 months. Rental costs are sky high as above due to supply/demand plus owners wanting/needing to cover their mortgage (or at least a significant portion of it) with the rental income.
weird that pie doesn't include ad revenue or music/apps/video. I guess maybe that falls under services, but I find it hard to believe that Apple's sliver of the global ad revenue pie is that low.Small is relative. it’s not iPhone juggernaut, but it’s hardly insignificant.
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$7.2 Billion is still bigger than iPad (for the quarter linked), and a lot of companies would be happy to have that. And it was over $10B Previously.
The Fed and the Bureau of Labor Statistics disagree with you. At least for the US.
However, if you live in Argentina...
Indeed. The minimum turnover required to qualify for the Fortune 500 in 2023 was $7.24b. So, based on revenue, the iMac is practically big enough to be on the list if it were independent from Apple*.Small is relative. it’s not iPhone juggernaut, but it’s hardly insignificant.
Apple Reports 2Q 2023 Results: $24.1B Profit on $94.8B Revenue, New March Quarter Record for iPhone Revenue
Apple today announced financial results for its second fiscal quarter of 2023, which corresponds to the first calendar quarter of the year. For the...
$7.2 Billion is still bigger than iPad (for the quarter linked), and a lot of companies would be happy to have that. And it was over $10B Previously.
*Of course, if it were an independent company, y'all would be able to buy the 27"/Pro models you want so much but won't be getting!
If a 27" iMac came out, I'd be first on it.
Since I am getting older and my eyes are aging, I opted for the 27" Studio display and Studio Max route instead.
2 years and loving the setup - still runs like a champ even with the base M1 Max processor from 2 years ago - blows away the 2020 i7 fully loaded 64GB customized 10Gbe Mac Mini for the same money.
No big surprise that over 80% of all Macs are laptops.
That was the reason Jobs abandoned PPC in 2006 for Intel.
What is surprising is the 2019 Mac Pro shipping more units than a 2023 Mac mini or 2023 Mac Studio.
I'd expect MBA & MBP remain the same while Mac mini & Mac Studio each selling more units than the Mac Pro.
I used to envy people with laptops so much so that when I finally had enough capital to upgrade my then current setup, I switched to a Macbook Pro.
I've regretted it ever since and regret jumping the gun and not waiting for the M3 iMac by buying an M2 MBA. I'm now in the process of switching back to an M3 iMac and will then sell the M2 MBA. My main issues are around angles of viewing and seating position. I have severe neck and back issues and using a laptop as a main machine is literally killing me.
I'm sure for people who are constantly on the move and who can handle working in unfamiliar environments all the time, laptops are great. I'm just not one of those people and anything that requires a mobile solution, I feel an iPad is a far better option for my needs.
I also think this is a bit of a forced trend. Like, Apple say that DT sales are declining but they've also put a massive focus on laptops so I feel as if it's a self-fulfilling agenda rather than a natural evolution. Like in my example, I felt the wait for an upgraded iMac was just too damn long and wasn't particularly excited with the Mini + Accessories option, so bit the bullet with the M2 MBA. I reckon a lot of people were in that kind of situation where they felt it was just the most logical, feasible option that was available to them, as opposed to the 'best' for them.
I also think that it's a trend people will eventually begin to buckle against. Like how people are moving away from dating apps, as a for instance. It was the de rigueur for a good long while but people eventually realised how horrendous it was and are now going back to other forms of meeting people.
What's needed to fix these issues won't happen without paradigmatic change, i.e. it won't happen until it fails catastrophically and we're all forced to rebuild.
“Should they ever acquire houses or lands or money of their own, they will become householders and tradesmen instead of guardians, enemies and tyrants instead of helpers, and the hour of ruin, both to themselves and the rest of the State, will be at hand.”
— Plato, The Republic.
I've regretted it ever since and regret jumping the gun and not waiting for the M3 iMac by buying an M2 MBA. I'm now in the process of switching back to an M3 iMac and will then sell the M2 MBA. My main issues are around angles of viewing and seating position. I have severe neck and back issues and using a laptop as a main machine is literally killing me.
I'm sure for people who are constantly on the move and who can handle working in unfamiliar environments all the time, laptops are great. I'm just not one of those people and anything that requires a mobile solution, I feel an iPad is a far better option for my needs.
I also think this is a bit of a forced trend. Like, Apple say that DT sales are declining but they've also put a massive focus on laptops so I feel as if it's a self-fulfilling agenda rather than a natural evolution. Like in my example, I felt the wait for an upgraded iMac was just too damn long and wasn't particularly excited with the Mini + Accessories option, so bit the bullet with the M2 MBA. I reckon a lot of people were in that kind of situation where they felt it was just the most logical, feasible option that was available to them, as opposed to the 'best' for them.
I also think that it's a trend people will eventually begin to buckle against. Like how people are moving away from dating apps, as a for instance. It was the de rigueur for a good long while but people eventually realised how horrendous it was and are now going back to other forms of meeting people.
And the fact that we base our entire economic model on outdated thinking that has been proven to be wrong-headed but we're so intrinsically locked into now that our politicians are almost all landlords themselves and so have a vested interest in continuing to provide life support to this system, dragging us all down with it towards its inevitable death.
What's needed to fix these issues won't happen without paradigmatic change, i.e. it won't happen until it fails catastrophically and we're all forced to rebuild.
“Should they ever acquire houses or lands or money of their own, they will become householders and tradesmen instead of guardians, enemies and tyrants instead of helpers, and the hour of ruin, both to themselves and the rest of the State, will be at hand.”
— Plato, The Republic.
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