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Are Microsoft ads are really hurting Apple?
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Apple could sell that. They could also sell a ton more computers at a $100. They aren't and they won't. Apple is not about cheap.
Oh, relax
Apple used to sell the 14'' iBook at a similar price to the current unibody MacBook, so who really knows?
They would sell more and its a do able price point
I'll have to agree with you that XP is pretty stable. I never liked Vista and I always took it off my machines and went XP.
I'd like to now what you've been running on your Macs to get kernel panics more often than BSOD. I've got a hackintosh for over a year and I've never experienced a kernel panic.
I haven't tried Windows 7 or Snow Leopard. All I we can do is wait and see what the final product looks like and how people will respond to them. No point really in debating beta copies. If you are going to debate OSes, you gotta go with what's out there now. XP or Vista vs Leopard. Leopard wins hands down.
I experienced a kernel panic last year on my Classic C2D MacBook Pro because i was running this stupid software on the background:
Norton AntiVirus 11 for Mac®
While rendering 3D on Maya.
At the time i believed in "It's Better to Be Safe Than Sorry". And i was wrong. The thing slowed my Mac's performance and caused kernel panics each time i render in Renderman mode.
After uninstalled the BS software everything got back to normal.
It's possible, I don't watch a whole lot of TV. That was the latest one I've seen. It doesn't really matter, they all under-sell themselves. People don't get the concept of getting what you pay for. Cheap will always be cheap.
This is exactly what we are discussing here though. The latest ad shows a girl getting a laptop which has the same internal components as the 2.4GHz MacBook for far less money.
She paid $972 for the Dell machine, which included a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB DDR3 RAM, GeForce 9400M and a 320GB HDD. The same configuration from Apple costs $1774.
You can either pay Apple more for the same computer, or do what she did and buy it from Dell. The only major difference is the OS. In this case, cheap is just as good as expensive.
In fact they could even do better than that, by offering it for free. I'm sure they could move a ton of computers by doing that.
Well personally to me the price difference is worth it for OSX alone, but you spec jockeys never seem to really care about build quality or any of the little perks that computers have.
Apple uses the same components as everybody else (remember the defective 8600GT, defective batteries, defective screens on laptops), so please explain how their parts seem to have magically a better quality compare to other vendors
Do Intel, nVidia and such offer Apple higher quality components that other PC makers dont have access to?
As for being a spec jerk, it is getting the best value for money. I love how spec doesnt matter now, but wasn't it the same company doing benchmark after benchmark to prove they make the fastest computers? Now that you guys cant escape the conversion by saying PowerPC to Intel comparison is not apple or oranges, somehow somebody caring about a fast computer becomes a spec jerk
The guy you answered to exposed your lies about how Apple offers better and faster hardware and instead of offering an answer (which you dont have because none exists), you call him a spec jerk
Now go to your Starbucks and sip your latte!
You can also go and shop at Wal-mart looking for bargains.
According to Appleinsider, the beloved super premium Apple has started selling their computers in Walmart. So much for a high end brand lol....
Soon it will be there. Apple computers will be part of Walmart's amazing bargains. Apple should run one of their I'm a Mac vs. I'm a PC ads and tell viewers how Macs are better deals at local Walmarts
So yeah; get your latte, put that tight shirt on and come to your local Walmart to browse Apple computer....
Except, they would sell at the same price as everywhere else ... unless Walmart was willing to take the hit.
And they couldn't be advertised for much lower, what with lowest advertised price laws and such.
Article here: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...e_section_seen_as_precursor_to_mac_sales.html
What prevents online and a few local vendors already selling a Mac less than what Apple does in its stores?
Nothing. But they cannot advertise it for a price lower than Apple's minimum advertised price.
http://consumerist.com/303727/what-is-minimum-advertised-price
I understand that fact but why are so many vendors willing to take a hit against Apple in pricing?
Maybe they are making it up in other areas, accessories and cables are a very high margin area.
So true.
Even the one with the Dell, that has the same internals, is still not the same as a MB/MBP in construction and layout.
That's an understatement.
True. One thing about Apple's adds, is that they are well done and each one illustrates a specific point.
Agree.
IMHO, this approach is failing and they are loosing their effectiveness quickly.
What many do, is keep the price the same but add extras.
So true.
Even the one with the Dell, that has the same internals, is still not the same as a MB/MBP in construction and layout.
That's an understatement.
True. One thing about Apple's adds, is that they are well done and each one illustrates a specific point.
Agree.
IMHO, this approach is failing and they are loosing their effectiveness quickly.
What many do, is keep the price the same but add extras.
I dont think anyone doubts the design of Apple products; they are the best in the class (Although I happen to think the previous Macbook Pros look much better than unibody ones); at the same time though we are ignoring the limitations caused by the same design and layout (less ports, no full Displayport or DVI/HDMI, no Firewire, no e-SATA)
The question is, is it worth the premium in these economic times? Is someone willing to pay something like $800 more for better design and OSX combined? Are these two factors likely to make them that much more productive that they undermine the potentially faster processor, more RAM, better GPU, larger HDD and a Blu-ray drive? For majority, I'd say no
For those who are used to the Apple universe and like to use their products (me included), we'll pay it regardless
For others who feel complete and exclusive with Apple products, I guess the answer is clear
If your not loosing your job, saving money and energy by not spending on useless junks (like me), then these economic times shouldn't affect you.
People also don't get the concept of you're being ripped off.