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Aka757

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Sep 22, 2016
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The 13” IPP is almost 1/4 pound lighter than the M1 / M2 12.9 IPP. I agree that it makes a big difference, to me at least.
For me it’s the difference between actually enjoying using the 13” handheld and having the 12.9” live in the Magic Keyboard!
 

Jackbequickly

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I laugh at people like you who will defend design flaws and downplay what others are experiencing. What does music have to do with this? Just listen to speech in comparison to previous iPad Pros and it’s terrible. You’ve made two laughable assumptions there, good job buddy!
It is OK as I laugh at people who laugh!🤭
 

Surfsalot

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The "strange scenario" referred to using speakers or headphones. Which you've now said you do anyway...



But ok. You now want to watch videos while cleaning your teeth and patrolling your house, with such frequency and for such durations that headphones are somehow not appropriate.

It's interesting that you can stay in one place long enough to listen to music with headphones or speakers, but somehow video requires different parameters.
I have a home office and I have all sorts of video running on my iPad, I don't want to use my Bose headphones or AirPods Pro for 8 hours a day lol
11 M4 speakers are trash get over it, and you've never even tried them lol
 

AlexJaye

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Are some of you actually arguing that it’s ok to have poor sound on this iPad because we should be using external speakers or headphones? 😂

The whole point is that this iPad has considerably WORSE sound quality than the iPad Pro 2018, for example.

That is a serious downgrade and is clearly making people unhappy.

I often just press play on a video, without connecting headphones or speakers. Amazing, huh! The fact that a human might press play and expect decent sound through their quad speaker iPad Pro. Too much to ask for, clearly!

My iPhone 14 has far better quality sound.

It’s a significant downgrade from older iPads. That’s the mad thing. Thinner, yes, but really muffled sound with some speech.

Not good. Full stop. No arguments.
I came to the M4 Pro from a 9th gen basic iPad … but had I come from a previous iPad version with better speakers, I would have been absolutely pissed.

Typical Apple fashion to sacrifice quality for something like thinness.
 

NVDA

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Apr 20, 2024
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They are better I tried both, would only buy the 13" myself.
Think I might have to do this as well. The speakers are such a deal breaker. 11 inch is ideal though. Do you use it at all for e-reading (ie Libby) or news (ie PressReader)? Given that it’s thinner than the 11 inch that’s a plus, just don’t know if it’s too unwieldy for something that I’ll use it for on a daily basis amongst other things.
 

richard371

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Think I might have to do this as well. The speakers are such a deal breaker. 11 inch is ideal though. Do you use it at all for e-reading (ie Libby) or news (ie PressReader)? Given that it’s thinner than the 11 inch that’s a plus, just don’t know if it’s too unwieldy for something that I’ll use it for on a daily basis amongst other things.
I had an 11 about 4 years ago i hardly used it I use the 13 all the time now.
 

sparksd

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Jun 7, 2015
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Think I might have to do this as well. The speakers are such a deal breaker. 11 inch is ideal though. Do you use it at all for e-reading (ie Libby) or news (ie PressReader)? Given that it’s thinner than the 11 inch that’s a plus, just don’t know if it’s too unwieldy for something that I’ll use it for on a daily basis amongst other things.

I use mine for reading regularly - Kindle ebooks. I had used the M1 12.9 previously and find the lighter weight of the 13 M4 to be a nice change in the hands.
 

NVDA

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Apr 20, 2024
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I use mine for reading regularly - Kindle ebooks. I had used the M1 12.9 previously and find the lighter weight of the 13 M4 to be a nice change in the hands.
Nice. I tried the 12.9 M2 and it was too much. So I wanted to try the 11 inch M4 because it has the same screen as the 13. Just those speakers…I’ll have to give the 13 a try.
 

azentropy

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No, no bad. Actullly pretty dang good. But IMO my 11" M1 sounds better than my 11" M4 which sounds better than than my 10.5" Pro.
 

Bungaree.Chubbins

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Jun 7, 2024
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This thread has been a lot of fun to read. I'm sure the M4 iPad sounds better than my iPad Air 2...

More on topic though, I'm not a fan of having to make sacrifices for more thinness. Put that millimetre back in, and give me better battery life, and better speakers please!
 

Webcat86

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Jun 7, 2022
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I have a home office and I have all sorts of video running on my iPad, I don't want to use my Bose headphones or AirPods Pro for 8 hours a day lol
I didn't suggest you should — if you're in a home office with videos on for 8 hours, use an external speaker.
11 M4 speakers are trash get over it, and you've never even tried them lol
Have I not? Interesting accusation, as I got the Mr 11" on the day it was released.
 

Surfsalot

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So you do know how bad they are then.
I have Sonos speakers don’t want a bt speaker for a iPad, don’t need it with my M1 11” will be sticking with it, Apple saved me a bucket load lol.
 
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