You're incredibly arrogant. Many people create great content using iPads. Myself included. By the way, I would walk out half way through the interview once I realized what a nightmare you probably are to work for.
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Are you iPad only? Or going that way?
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Except it's not that much cheaper. A wifi 10.5" Pro with pencil, keyboard, and 256 storage is over a grand before tax; the 12" is $150 more. You can get a lot of laptop for $1000-1150 these days. Just to take one well-reviewed example, a dell xps 13 with kabylake i5, 8 gb ram, and 128 SSD for $1000. And yes I'm aware that's not spec-for-spec equal to the iPad, but it's just one example.
I'm not trying to knock the iPad, just pointing out that if you're really going for the full iPad Pro setup, the comparison is to some pretty decent mid-range laptops.
I think it's a nice advantage to have both the laptop and iPad. They still have their differences and offer various experiences. But I wouldn't Solet just rely on one or the other, as I do prefer both iPad and my laptop for different purposes.
I'll never be able to move to iPad only, but the new iOS 11 features do put me closer to switching out my MBP with a 27" iMac. I still prefer to do hacking/labbing (and soon to be dev) from my couch, so there's that....
Not everybody needs the pencil, personally I find keyboards much more efficient and quieter for note taking at university. Hand writing it hard to understand for others and takes up a a huge amount of screen real estate in comparison.
As for the Smart Keyboard, for about £40 you can get a comfortable Logitech so it's not strictly needed as a must have accessory.
Plus, the base iPad starts at just £339 which with a keyboard and stand is still under half a MacBook
As for the Smart Keyboard, for about £40 you can get a comfortable Logitech so it's not strictly needed as a must have accessory.
Plus, the base iPad starts at just £339 which with a keyboard and stand is still under half a MacBook
I'm iPad primarily - I do most of my work at an office with Windows machine, and I use a Macbook Pro occasionally at home do long in remotely, do some MS Office work, etc. But generally I spend most of my time outside of my office on an iPad. Sometimes, when I travel for work, I carry an iPad Pro and a Macbook Pro because I need both.
I know this sounds crazy, but I'm considering getting a new Macbook Air to pair with a 12.9" iPad Pro because I want to have less money invested in the Macbook until Apple's offerings improve in value.
I know this sounds crazy, but I'm considering getting a new Macbook Air to pair with a 12.9" iPad Pro because I want to have less money invested in the Macbook until Apple's offerings improve in value.
I'm inclined to hink that you're just trolling now, but in the event that you aren't, I have two questions:
How does using a finger as a pointing device prevent effective work? And at what size does a screen need to be to allow for productivity?
For those who want to save some money, Logitech makes a great product and they have been around for years. I typically only purchase Apple OEM, but Logitech is immediately my second choice for accessories.
I mostly used my macbook air as a media consumption machine, torrenting, downloading, airstreaming, you name it. But i have been using iPad pro 9.7 exclusively for a few months as my MBA died. My solution is renting a seedbox for like 10 bucks a month which comes with Plex. So you can use the seedbox to torrent all you want with awesome speeds and extra level of security there, and then you just stream the content from the plex server. Heck you don't even need plex, you can upload the content you downloaded to google drive from your seedbox (uploading to google drive is super fast), and then you use a video playing app like VLC, Infuse to stream the content directly from your google drive. Depending on your internet speed, it can be very fast, it works almost like butter to me, with very minimal buffering (yes I stream a 15gb mkv file from VLC app off my google drive without a problem). VLC and Infuse pretty much play all popular video formats.
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One thing to note.
It IS great for movies. Loved my 12.9 at home in bed or on the couch. It just feels a little too big sitting on a seat tray while watching movies in flight. For me it felt like my eyes had to dart around the screen to catch all of the action in a movie like The Force Awakens since the screen is pretty large. Watching on iPhone Plus or a smaller iPad, it seems I can catch the action without moving my eyes as much from the same distance.
I considered seedbox, but found the steps needed a little cumbersome. Maybe that has improved with iOS 11 though. I ended up getting a QNap TS251+ NAS which comes with a Qmanager app that has a "download station." You can search multiple torrent sites, download right to the NAS, and then either stream directly or use a Plex server. I was using a computer for essentially the same thing as you, but I am now selling my MacBook and going iPad 10.5 and 7 Plus only. Excited for the new set up.
No, it's not arrogance at all. Such a silly retort as very few have an ability to create in such a confined manner. There are exceptions like artists with the Apple pen but they're the exception.
And no you wouldn't walk out during an interview.
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People who cry troll are weak at debating the points they claim to have. That's not pointed at you specifically but a general point.
The number of times you have to aim at the screen to move the cursor to a particular point is simply not accurate. Copy and paste has gotten terrible via finger in recent iOS updates. These are all more efficient via a computer. To claim otherwise is purely down to the individual not realizing they're wasting their time.
As for screen size, when I ask somebody to explain how they develop and mention a single laptop screen where they swipe back and forth or click windows to front non-stop, like not using a mouse, it's a time suck. I pay you to use the proper tools to develop and test software not point randomly and constantly flick between apps. That all takes time and time is money. I provide you with the proper tools and expect to see them used. If not then I question your judgement. If I do that then it's a question of trust.
So the Excel spreadsheets I created today on my iPad--those didn't count? Or were they just not serious enough for you to count? (By the way, how do you even know what was on them?) The podcasts that I record, mix, edit, and publish straight from my iPad--the ones that sound better than any audio file I ever created on my Mac--those dont count either? (I use Ferrite--you should try it sometime. It's professional quality audio software.) How about my long form Word/Pages documents or the artwork I create with the Pencil? Or the musical scores I create with Notion, which recognizes Apple Pencil writing and instantly turns it into notes on a staff? Still not good enough? Not enough examples? I have a lot more, but I have a feeling it would fall on deaf ears. I'm not going to feed your trolling any more, but yes, i definitely would walk out on an interview if it were obvious that the person interviewing me is a miserable human being.
This is fair; I do find copy/paste to be a bit more difficult with just a finger. If I have a lot of copy/paste, I'll use a hardware keyboard though, which largely negates the issue for me.
Even before switching to using an iPad I seldom had many windows open on screen. Typically an SSH client or code editor and one or two others (email or other messaging, and a browser). I've found this to be an effective way to work for close to a decade now.
On the other hand, if I'm being paid to work on a project and specific tools are provided, I'll use them. (Though I won't use a mouse if at all possible. Trackpads or an ergonomic trackball, yes, but I find mice to be painful.)
In my case though, I find the iPad to be liberating. I can work from literally anywhere. Case in point: yesterday I was out for a walk when I received a bug report on one of my projects. The issue was minor so I paused for a minute, took out my iPad, and quickly wrote and deployed a fix. If I was using a laptop I'd have needed to find a place to sit and setup tethering to my phone (or hope I was near an open wifi network). If I had to use a desktop, I'd have needed to go back to the office before resolving the issue.
I don't think I ever could, or at least for the next few years. Whenever I finally put my geology degree to use, there's a good chance I'll need to use ArcGIS and some other software that people in the field use. ArcGIS is only on Windows, and it doesn't seem like something that's going to go to a tablet. A touchscreen would probably be nice for some features, but it doesn't seem to be an application that is forgiving of portable hardware. I barely got it to run using Windows 10 on Parallels using a MacBook Air with only 4GB of RAM.
I would love to see an iPad version of this, but major-ass industry software doesn't seem to evolve very quickly unless it can HIGHLY take advantage of being on a tablet or phone. Alas, I'll probably always need some sort of actual computer.
If not for that, I'm not sure. I use an iMac for a video server in my house. I've downloaded all sorts of movies and TV shows I either bought from iTunes or ripped from my discs. I don't buy movies or TV shows (or music) on discs anymore, but I still have way too much stuff I've bought over the years to rely fully on streaming via the Apple TV. Then I also from time to time do things like edit videos for people, and I have to use iMovie on my iMac because it has a 2TB hard disk drive. One I'm working on now is for someone who is totally still on DVDs and such, so there's not really a way to edit a movie and put it on a disc using just an iPad.
I would love to see an iPad version of this, but major-ass industry software doesn't seem to evolve very quickly unless it can HIGHLY take advantage of being on a tablet or phone. Alas, I'll probably always need some sort of actual computer.
If not for that, I'm not sure. I use an iMac for a video server in my house. I've downloaded all sorts of movies and TV shows I either bought from iTunes or ripped from my discs. I don't buy movies or TV shows (or music) on discs anymore, but I still have way too much stuff I've bought over the years to rely fully on streaming via the Apple TV. Then I also from time to time do things like edit videos for people, and I have to use iMovie on my iMac because it has a 2TB hard disk drive. One I'm working on now is for someone who is totally still on DVDs and such, so there's not really a way to edit a movie and put it on a disc using just an iPad.
Very much so! also they are very wrong! i use my current iPad Pro 12.9" to make notes and write on using Pages and a professional app called Final Draft which is used by industry professional writers, so yea the iPad can be used for professional use.
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Sorry but your wrong, it can easily be used for content creation!
almost. there are still some things that are easier on a computer - eg something simple like selling things online, I need to grab a picture, crop and resize and then upload online. I've still not found a great app that does that on ipad, too many photo apps are obsessed with filters etc.
Also I need a computer for ripping blurays etc. I could easily cut down the number of my computers though and I often think about it
- gaming PC. I don't actually game that much but I also use it for ripping/encoding.
- micro/SFF PC. Used solely as a plex server. Could probably combine as a general purpose machine if I sold my gaming PC
- surface pro 4. Has at this stage pretty much been adopted by my son as a homework machine. There are still some subjects that require a microsoft machine - they do some lessons in MS publisher for example.
Also I need a computer for ripping blurays etc. I could easily cut down the number of my computers though and I often think about it
- gaming PC. I don't actually game that much but I also use it for ripping/encoding.
- micro/SFF PC. Used solely as a plex server. Could probably combine as a general purpose machine if I sold my gaming PC
- surface pro 4. Has at this stage pretty much been adopted by my son as a homework machine. There are still some subjects that require a microsoft machine - they do some lessons in MS publisher for example.
I recently just jumped back into the iPad line with the new 10.5" pro. I sold my air 2 last year as I felt that the 12" MacBook would suitably cover my needs (was starting at university so wanted something for writing assignments and researching). It has done a smashing job but in fact I've found without the iPad it didn't get used anymore, if anything I used my iPhone more but missed the bigger screen.
So now I find myself typing this on an old Brydge keyboard for my previous air 2 and it had me wondering "could I go iPad only?". The short answer is most likely yes. the only thing I use the MacBook for is consumption, typing/researching for university, managing devices through iTunes (though I'm sure here will bee a way around this even though some media has been ripped from CDs not bought from iTunes) and storing said media onto a external hard drive.
I'm considering trying to go iPad only for my return to university and see how well it goes. After a reasonable trial I might look into selling the MacBook. The only trouble then being if I should've bought an iPad with more than 64gb of storage!
For me as silly as it may sound to some I do find myself reaching for the trackpad when using a keyboard with iPad and sometimes feel it's an effort having to reach up t the screen. I'm sure though that with time this would become the norm and I'd get used to it..
So now I find myself typing this on an old Brydge keyboard for my previous air 2 and it had me wondering "could I go iPad only?". The short answer is most likely yes. the only thing I use the MacBook for is consumption, typing/researching for university, managing devices through iTunes (though I'm sure here will bee a way around this even though some media has been ripped from CDs not bought from iTunes) and storing said media onto a external hard drive.
I'm considering trying to go iPad only for my return to university and see how well it goes. After a reasonable trial I might look into selling the MacBook. The only trouble then being if I should've bought an iPad with more than 64gb of storage!
For me as silly as it may sound to some I do find myself reaching for the trackpad when using a keyboard with iPad and sometimes feel it's an effort having to reach up t the screen. I'm sure though that with time this would become the norm and I'd get used to it..
MacBook Pro is much better than an iPad putting the money difference aside. I only use my iPad Pro as a second screen at home and don't fully use my iPad until I'm away from home.
It's disappointing the new iPads Pros did not get 3D or iPhone 7 plus camera.
It's disappointing the new iPads Pros did not get 3D or iPhone 7 plus camera.
I think you're moving the goal posts here. The title of this thread is about going iPad ONLY, not whether the iPad can be used in a professional setting in any capacity at all. I'm a software developer as well, and right now I'm using dual 24-inch monitors and I still don't have enough screen real estate. I currently have open multiple design documents, my IDE, multiple windows showing code output, multiple ssh terminals, email, Skype, and multiple explorer windows (yes I'm on Windows sadly). The biggest boost to my productivity during my career was when I got a second display. I need to be able to spread all of this out as much as possible.
I think it's great that you were able to resolve an issue quickly and easily on the go using an iPad. But did you build the entire project using nothing but an iPad?
Cars and trucks. Some people always need a truck, sometimes people need cars, and some need a bit of both. I think a lot of the people who were using computers in the 80s and 90s just got used to the fact that they needed an expensive, complicated desktop PC if they wanted to get work done or have internet access. It was really the only option, so we put up with it.
PCs and Macs are a lot more stable now I suppose, but they're still overly complicated and overpowered for what most people use them for. There is still a need for them, just not as much as there used to be because there are far more options now.
The part I don't understand is the people who get offended by it when others say they do work on an iPad or any other mobile device. I don't know if it's a defense mechanism or what. People pick the best tool for the job they need to do. More and more, devices like the iPad are becoming the ideal tool for the common computer user. Developers and engineers and other power users will continue using their Macs and PCs. It's not a big deal.
Wish I could be to simplify, but I still love my 2016 MBP. And being in IT I do require having a laptop to connect to various pieces of network gear. I am truly loving my new 10.5 iPP, and with iOS 11 coming we will see if I can sell my 27" iMac.