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As a Galaxy Note PRO 12.2 user, I am not impressed by iPad PRO
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I have Verizon unlimited data and hotspot and battery life on hotspot is like a business day so the cellular tax on additional devices doesn't make sense for me. All my calls go through my phone so I'm not missing anything and if needed I can connect the SP4 to hotspot to make/take calls on speakerphone, internet, etc.
4GB DRAM on Windows 10 should be fine for most things like consumption, productivity and medium gaming. Booting into Windows 10 it uses ~1.5GB and with Chrome with 6 tabs ~2.2GB. Have yet to try it on the SP4 but even played Battlefield 4 on a 4GB Thinkpad Helix 2. Where you might run into memory contention is doing things like FHD+ video editing with large files. 4GB works but would've preferred 8GB option for future proofing considering memory is cheap but getting Microsoft to listen is another matter. Otherwise, performance of the SP4 Core M3 is very snappy, Chrome scrolls fast, WinRar benches at 3000+ when plugged in and ~2600+ on battery which is better than my old dual-socket dual-core Xeon 5160 workstation, etc.
Going forward the ideal SP is fanless Core M, 8GB DRAM base, Type Cover keyboard with dGPU and secondary battery option and SAMOLED. Snap in the normal keyboard if I need compact and light weight or for more graphics performance or using dGPU for compute processing snap on the higher end one. SAMOLED because all LCDs have some backlight bleed including the SP4 when it's completely dark such as when watching a movie in an unlit room.
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It's not worth the price for me
It's faster and bigger than my air 2 but I love my air so it's not worth the extra £400 for me
It's faster and bigger than my air 2 but I love my air so it's not worth the extra £400 for me
If I was strictly looking at an iPad upgrade and not one device that replaces everything I'd only get the iPP since Air is DRAM deficient, Mini 4 performance is gimped relative to Air 2 and Air 2 is just passable and too small for productivity. ~10" to me is like those Smart Cars. Not any better than a motorcycle and not as useful as a sedan.
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You getting the pro? Why am I not surprised
Lol. For what I do work wise (graphic design & illustration) it's ideal. Have no interest in gaming or consuming media with it, I just want to draw and illustrate with it. Use it as a client portfolio and link it to my Macs and use it like a slimmer Wacom Cintiq with apps like Astropad.
Sounds like an ideal buy thenLol. For what I do work wise (graphic design & illustration) it's ideal. Have no interest in gaming or consuming media with it, I just want to draw and illustrate with it. Use it as a client portfolio and link it to my Macs and use it like a slimmer Wacom Cintiq with apps like Astropad.
Pencil is 5 weeks wait it appears
That what I am looking at too. I think the SP4 has more to offer IMHO. But in MRU's case where his profession is illustration...then the IPP makes perfect sense.
Agreed totally. For most folks the SP4 makes much better sense unless they are in that very small demographic that I fall into.
Sure. But you're getting lot more CPU, RAM, and SSD than the IPP so that makes sense it would be more expensive.
Exactly...... There's a lot more functionality. Then throw in the number of ports and flexibility of the files system itself and the SP4 offers more options. But I think the IPP shines in creative uses like illustration.
Exactly...... There's a lot more functionality. Then throw in the number of ports and flexibility of the files system itself and the SP4 offers more options. But I think the IPP shines in creative uses like illustration.
Right it's not an excuse the expression an apples to apples comparison. Regardless of the form factor and price a Windows computer is being compared to an iPad. That to me is the differentiating point. I could have gotten wifey a decent laptop for half the price much better than current model...but this being the holiday season and all.
I'm a Galaxy Notes 10.1 intensive users since its launch and I use the tablet everyday with its S-Pen for handwriting notes during meeting and to sketch various charts and mockup.
I also have iPads and I found them very useful, very reactive (far more than any Android tablets) and far better regarding battery handling.
For me the iPad pro was what I was waiting for, so on Saturday, I took my Galaxy Notes 10.1 and I went to an Apple Store to test heavily the iPad Pro side by side with my everyday working device.
I tested it, essentially testing the S-Pen during around 1 hour. Here are my thoughts:
So now I have 2 choices, either I buy iPad Pro but my user experience and everyday work will be less convenient (despite using now a 3 years old tablet) or I hope and cross my finger to hope that Samsung will release very soon a Galaxy Tab S Pro with the S-Pen so I might have, if this tablet is effectively coming, a good device with a good ecosystem.
I also have iPads and I found them very useful, very reactive (far more than any Android tablets) and far better regarding battery handling.
For me the iPad pro was what I was waiting for, so on Saturday, I took my Galaxy Notes 10.1 and I went to an Apple Store to test heavily the iPad Pro side by side with my everyday working device.
I tested it, essentially testing the S-Pen during around 1 hour. Here are my thoughts:
- The device is huge, it's very impressive and fitting it in my everyday bag is not that easy.
- The device does not feel heavy at all when moving it and carrying it around. Of course I didn't read a magazine during 1 hour with it
- The perceived quality of the iPad and the pencil is very high, as usual with Apple products
- The pencil is very reactive, very precise but for me it's not that extraordinary as my S-Pen is also very sharp and also provide pressure effect
- For me then pencil is too slidy on the screen surface, which is not perfect for writing. The S-Pen has more friction and for me it's more convenient
- For me the iPad pro is a prototype:
- when Samsung released the Galaxy Notes tablet, the S Note application was part of the system and was taking full advantage of the S-Pen. For IPad pro, only Notes is part of the Apple suite adapted for the pencil and it cannot be used for business note taking
- The full concept of having a pencil is part of the Galaxy Notes environment. The virtual keyboard can be switched to a handwriting "keyboard" that is working for all applications (inputting a name in a web page but also writing a Word document). This is not present in iPad pro and with the Apple policy, a custom keyboard to add handwriting is just a dream and will stay a dream at least as long as Apple do not add themselves this feature as part of iOS
- Again application experience with the S-Pen has provided highly clever feature like for Papyrus application where you use the S-Pen to write and when you use your finger it is directly interpreted as a lasso tool without having to select and tool. It's very very efficient and convenient. Applications currently compatible with pencil does not offer such richness
So now I have 2 choices, either I buy iPad Pro but my user experience and everyday work will be less convenient (despite using now a 3 years old tablet) or I hope and cross my finger to hope that Samsung will release very soon a Galaxy Tab S Pro with the S-Pen so I might have, if this tablet is effectively coming, a good device with a good ecosystem.
Small correction, I found the application My Stylus Handwriting which effectively add a "handwriting" keyboard to the iPad (
MyScript Stylus - Handwriting Keyboard par MyScript
https://appsto.re/ch/yl_G3.i)
Might be interesting to test this on an iPad pro
MyScript Stylus - Handwriting Keyboard par MyScript
https://appsto.re/ch/yl_G3.i)
Might be interesting to test this on an iPad pro
I want to be able to receive/make phone calls at anytime in case of emergencies. Depending on available wifi is not good. Apple and some forum users told me that LTE of iPad PRO cannot receive/make phone calls.
That's why most people carry a phone rather than a 12.2" tablet !