Ohh...ok...TY for the clarification. I agree...
If the ASUS is a decent rig, then that's all that matters. If someone is not a Win fan, then load Linux on it.
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Asus Ultrathin Laptop - Good Competition?
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Ohh...ok...TY for the clarification. I agree...
If the ASUS is a decent rig, then that's all that matters. If someone is not a Win fan, then load Linux on it.
Seeing how often OS X renders software obsolete and forces vendors to issue new versions, I doubt that is what you truely want. Look at the removal of Rosetta, the architecture switch, how fast Apple deprecates APIs and introduces new ones...
What people want is a computer to accomplish tasks. This can be done in every major OS out there for 95% of the population (Web, E-mail, some documents). Unless your niche workflow requires a particular OS, you can make due without OS X, you just place artificial barriers on yourself saying you can't.
You may be right about that. I'm still a little ticked at OS X's software support for AVCHD movie editing. It's crude compared to how it works in Windows, so much so that I've been seriously considering getting a Windows PC just to use their movie editing software. And considering that one of the reasons I switched from Windows to Mac in the first place was how easily it handled importing of DV video over FireWire, that's really saying something.
If I'm in the market to buy a computer based on aesthetics, I'm free to do so. Why would I support a company with no creative vision other than "let's do what Apple did"? The Sony I originally really liked (Sony Vaio X) was much more compelling because it had a unique, functional, and sleek style. I had to actually compare and contrast it to the Air, instead of just noting this one runs Mac, this one Windows (as it is with the Asus).
Get it straight I am not a fan boy but a Mac Head, which is totally different. Mac Heads are the real Apple fans, while fan boys have touch Windows at some point in time.
Now again this doesn't run OSX legally, why should this be compared to the MBA, beside the fact both are PCs. Yes, lack of an OSX is a real con for me because the lack of software, like Apple Works(yes I still use it and love it) and iMovie.
Now again this doesn't run OSX legally, why should this be compared to the MBA, beside the fact both are PCs. Yes, lack of an OSX is a real con for me because the lack of software, like Apple Works(yes I still use it and love it) and iMovie.
That's like saying a 17" MBP is more of an ultraportable competitor to the 11" and 13" MBA than this new 11" Asus because a 17" MBP runs OS X. 
People who are considering an 11" MBA are doing so because they want something small and lightweight. They don't want an ultraportable because of OS X. That wouldn't even make any sense. They are interested in an ultraportable because of their needs. Otherwise, why would anybody pay more money for a considerably slower laptop? They wouldn't. They'd go for the faster option at a better price.
A person who needs an ultraportable laptop wouldn't consider the 17" MBP as a purchase option. The Asus should be considered, as long as you're OK with using Windows 7. At least these two laptops can sit at the same table.
If you're not, then obviously there are no MBA competitors. You'd only have the choice of the 11" and 13" options.
People who are considering an 11" MBA are doing so because they want something small and lightweight. They don't want an ultraportable because of OS X. That wouldn't even make any sense. They are interested in an ultraportable because of their needs. Otherwise, why would anybody pay more money for a considerably slower laptop? They wouldn't. They'd go for the faster option at a better price.
A person who needs an ultraportable laptop wouldn't consider the 17" MBP as a purchase option. The Asus should be considered, as long as you're OK with using Windows 7. At least these two laptops can sit at the same table.
If you're not, then obviously there are no MBA competitors. You'd only have the choice of the 11" and 13" options.
This is ridiculous. You've never touched windows? You should try it sometime, you know, broaden your horizons. Linux too.
Fanboy - Mac Head. From your description I don't see what the difference is, both are disregarding a perfectly good MBA competitor because it does not run OS X (legally).
Just because lack of OS X is a real con for you does not mean it is for everybody as has been pointed out many times before most people do not need OS X to do what they use a PC for.
Its pretty obvious why it should be compared to the MBA you would have to be deluded to not see that.
From the moment I saw Apple's new shiny icons at WWDC, I started wondering if they would start making their laptops with a similar circularly brushed aluminium finish.
Apple are usually very consistent across their design decisions. The iPhone 4 and current Nanos and Shuffles already have round buttons that look just like that.
I think it looks pretty good, but if it's done on a large surface such as the whole laptop lid it would need to be a subtle brushing, too much glare would just look tacky.
I'd have to see this ASUS laptop in person to judge if it looks good. From the actual pictures in OP's link (not the renders), it looks way too reflective IMO, but then again it's not under conventional lighting, you can see a powerful spotlight is lighting the (otherwise dark) stage.
Also, if Apple ever makes Liquidmetal laptops, I wouldn't see them adopting a finish that could be mistaken for the current anodized aluminium. It would have to stand out, then they would make it a strong selling point and call it magical and stuff.
I think it looks pretty good, but if it's done on a large surface such as the whole laptop lid it would need to be a subtle brushing, too much glare would just look tacky.
I'd have to see this ASUS laptop in person to judge if it looks good. From the actual pictures in OP's link (not the renders), it looks way too reflective IMO, but then again it's not under conventional lighting, you can see a powerful spotlight is lighting the (otherwise dark) stage.
Also, if Apple ever makes Liquidmetal laptops, I wouldn't see them adopting a finish that could be mistaken for the current anodized aluminium. It would have to stand out, then they would make it a strong selling point and call it magical and stuff.
Blech...not so sure I like it. I think the WWDC stuff was for getting one's attention. I doubt they'll change the material/look...IMO
There is a difference Mac Heads will never soil their macs with Windows or Office, Fanboys may do that. Mac Heads never ever will look at another product because they know Apple makes products that are the platinum standard(well not their intel stuff but you get the point). Again, its not obvious why this should be compared to the Air. They both are targeting different markets. One is targeting the PC market, the other is targeting the person who wants a PC, but doesn't want to admit it.
Oh I have played with linux, but it wasn't for me. And not its not ridiculous, I never had and never will touch Windows or anything related to it.
according to you, mac head = EXTREME fanboy. Yeah, i guess there is a difference between fanboy, and EXTREME fanboy.
How is this not competition? both are ultraportable laptops, with similar external characteristics. a person looking for an ultraportable laptop is going to look at the options he has, and both the mba and this one fall into that category. now, for YOU, it is not a competition, because you are a "mac head", so you'll get the mba. But, you gotta understand that YOU are not EVERYONE. not everyone is a "mac head". not everyone NEEDS os x, nor do they all NEED windows, so both are legitimate options. obviously the one that needs windows exclusively will choose a windows laptop (although they can run bootcamp), and the one that needs os x will go for the air. But most buyers dont base their decision solely on the OS.
...So I'd say this is very good competition indeed.
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As Bomino said Mac Head's are Extreme Fanboys.
How can you say Apple make platinum standard products and then exclude everything that includes something from Intel which is their whole line of Macs including the MBA? Do you also exclude Thunderbolt which is a collaboration between Apple and Intel which provides speeds twice as fast as their nearest rival USB3.0? If their Intel stuff is not platinum standard then why will you not look elsewhere? You have contradicted yourself and your argument is unsound.
Both laptops are targeting the PC market, by the very definition of a PC the Asus is a PC and so is the MBA or have you been lured in by Apple's Mac marketing ploy?
I'm now beginning to wonder whether you have shares in Apple, have some invested interest with them or work for them.
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^ Intel is also credited with the pioneering of USB. I guess USB isn't platinum standard either?
And while were bashing Intel, screw them for creating the first commercially available microprocessor and helping usher an era of personal computing. Damn them to hell!
^ Intel is also credited with the pioneering of USB. I guess USB isn't platinum standard either?
And while were bashing Intel, screw them for creating the first commercially available microprocessor and helping usher an era of personal computing. Damn them to hell!
i did that because of avid media composer 5.5 , it just works a bit better under windows7 and as i really only need it for work , i could not find a point of getting a Mac for working in a windows environment
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You're speaking of things that by your own admission you've never touched. That's called ignorance.
And... Keep apple pure? Are you like the Apple KKK or something?
my goodness. that is a fascinating worldview. computing purity? well, good luck with that. i suppose you perform ablutions every time you come into physical contact with non-apple devices like cash registers, calculators, printers, routers, and so forth.
it's a good thing apple is playing to win and not narcissistically gazing at themselves in the mirror. their comparison of apple to various other manufacturers at the wwdc on monday demonstrated convincingly that they see their pc counterparts as competitors (they also creatively interpreted numbers to see themselves as ahead in every category).
i bet they are paying close attention to the asus (arguably the most successful netbook manufacturer), and i think we can expect that this will push them to up their game in the next iteration of the mba. pretty exciting times!
I dont understand, it looks almost exactly like MacBook Air. Why does Apple let these companies produce their pioneer products' clones?
I dont understand, it looks almost exactly like MacBook Air. Why does Apple let these companies produce their pioneer products' clones?
I think it is unfair to say that any ultraportable laptop is a copy of the MBA. Honestly, this does not look too close to the MBA. It's just very thin, along with the unibody design. MBA is still much more seamless.
So what your saying is apple should call a red flag on Asus for producing this? If everyone acted like that, technology would likely move at a much slower rate. That what you want?
Good Competition can only be a positive thing. If this product causes a loss of MBA sales, what do you think apple will do? Maybe make the MBA even better? Isn't that what we want?
some people just think if it is small and made from aluminum ,has a display a keyboard and is slim its a clone of a Macbook and should be banned , scrapped or at least aple should start a lawsuit ,whats wrong with clones , i like clones you get the same appearance for less money..sometimes with even better spec and apple gets competition which is a good thing too
i quiet liked my MSI wind U100 it nearly had the same spec as the original MBA 1.66 ghz , it too ran OSX snow leopard without a glitch and had the same shortcomings in the GPU department ..intel GMA 950 but was waaaaaaaaay cheaper then even a non working MBA
i quiet liked my MSI wind U100 it nearly had the same spec as the original MBA 1.66 ghz , it too ran OSX snow leopard without a glitch and had the same shortcomings in the GPU department ..intel GMA 950 but was waaaaaaaaay cheaper then even a non working MBA
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in the same manner, you should not buy a mobile phone manufactured by any other company but the original inventor (in this case, Motorola) because the rest are just copy-cats, including Apple. If I were to extend my thought, Apple was not the company which invented the laptop but only improved it and as a result of this we have the MBA.
So, why do you support Apple?
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