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The Other One

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Man, they're fast. I just ordered yesterday afternoon... and now I've already received a shipping notification with a tracking number.
 
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flowrider

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I'm having a terrible time:


Lou
 

MarkC426

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Seriously the 2019 macpro with 580x only has hdmi, that is really disappointing.
I used dvi for years then moved to dp, have never used (tv standard) hdmi.

Looked on the specs page....’Two DisplayPort connections routed to system to support internal Thunderbolt 3 ports’.....what exactly does this mean?
 
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tsialex

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Seriously the 2019 macpro with 580x only has hdmi, that is really disappointing.
I used dvi for years then moved to dp, have never used (tv standard) hdmi.
Use the Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports of the I/O card or the top, both ports have DP1.4 signal.

 

flowrider

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MarkC426

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Is there any reason why all 2019 Mac Pro’s are not made in USA?
Why are non-us sales made in China?

When I am in the market for a new rig, I will probably select collect from store....you would think delivery drivers would be more careful if delivering to Apple... ;)
Also you would think Apple would only accept undamaged packages.
(heard too many horror stories recently about deliveries)
 

goMac

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Is there any reason why all 2019 Mac Pro’s are not made in USA?
Why are non-us sales made in China

It’s cheaper/easier/faster to produce them in China. The US ones are only built in the US to avoid tariffs.

Apple would make less money selling internationally from the US, and it’s likely the Chinese factory is more efficient.

That’s the thing about the tariffs. They only make companies change their behavior inside the US. They don’t force any change for international sales.
 

astrorider

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It’s cheaper/easier/faster to produce them in China. The US ones are only built in the US to avoid tariffs.

Apple would make less money selling internationally from the US, and it’s likely the Chinese factory is more efficient.

That’s the thing about the tariffs. They only make companies change their behavior inside the US. They don’t force any change for international sales.

Mac Pros were made in the US before the tariffs, though, at least since 2013.
 

goMac

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Mac Pros were made in the US before the tariffs, though, at least since 2013.

All production was to be moved back to China before political action was taken inside the US. The 2019 was supposed to be China produced only for all markets.

My guess is Apple didn't feel like they were getting a good deal in the US on the 2013.
 

MarkC426

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It’s all a bit of a nonsense then really....

So if your in the US, your mac is shipped from the US.
If I order one from the UK, it’s not made in the UK, it comes from China, in about 6 months (the way things are going).
So why can’t anyone buy from the US site, when the Mac has a shorter distance to travel.

All that being said, I am waiting for ‘base’ models to be available in store.......;)
 

goMac

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It’s all a bit of a nonsense then really....

So if your in the US, your mac is shipped from the US.
If I order one from the UK, it’s not made in the UK, it comes from China, in about 6 months (the way things are going).
So why can’t anyone buy from the US site, when the Mac has a shorter distance to travel.

All that being said, I am waiting for ‘base’ models to be available in store.......;)

With the issues going on in China right now, Apple might opt to shift some more production to the US factory. But that's very likely going to be less profitable for them. Just possibly more available for the time being.

So shorter distance to get to you. But less money for Apple.

And don't forget, the Texas factory isn't built on some international shipping hub like the Chinese one. It could be done, but it's not really position to fill international orders easily like the Chinese factory. Aren't many direct freight flights from Texas to the UK.
 
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MarkC426

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What is hilarious ? is on Amazon UK the 2019 Mac Pro’s are listed on marketplace, for delivery by this Friday.....? and also listed as ’renewed and previously owned’........ ?
Who’s gonna take a chance....?
 

1147402

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It’s all a bit of a nonsense then really....

So if your in the US, your mac is shipped from the US.
If I order one from the UK, it’s not made in the UK, it comes from China, in about 6 months (the way things are going).
So why can’t anyone buy from the US site, when the Mac has a shorter distance to travel.

All that being said, I am waiting for ‘base’ models to be available in store.......;)

The only purpose that they manufacture US Mac Pro in the US is to get the tax reduction in the US over almost all other Apple products made in China and elsewhere. I doubt Apple even profits from those sales. It's way cheaper for Apple to ship those products from China than doing it locally. They don't even have BTO options in stock in Apple Stores no matter where you are.

Also, shorter distance doesn't guarantee sooner deliveries. As China made almost anything, carriers have tons of planes dedicate for outbound shipments. Ship from Texas would probably cost more and take longer. And those parts have to be shipped from China to Texas so they can be assembled, which would also make the waiting longer.

I ordered a BTO Mac Pro w/ XDR + Stand in mid Feb, w/ estimate delivery in mid Mar. I got my Mac Pro few days ago, which took them only a week despite the outbreak. My XDR was shipped yesterday, w/ an ETA 2 weeks earlier than the initial estimation. However, it's kinda problematic as I firstly got my Mac Pro w/o a screen and then now a screen w/o a stand.
 

iSquirrelu

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Nov 9, 2012
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I ordered my Mac Pro with 2 x Pro Display XDR's + 2 x stands. Of course the Displays have turned up first with no stands and no Mac Pro. I have just got notification that the Stands have shipped and the Mac Pro has gone from processing to preparing to ship. Hopefully I will get the stands before the weekend so I can use one display with my iMac Pro and Blackmagic e-GPU Pro.
 

iSquirrelu

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Can someone help me with how best to connect 2 x Display Pro XDR's to my Mac Pro?

The config is as follows:

Mac Pro

Hardware:
  • 2.5GHz 28‑core Intel Xeon W processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.4GHz
  • 768GB (12 × 64GB) of DDR4 ECC memory
  • 8TB of SSD storage
  • Two Radeon Pro Vega II Duo with 2 × 32GB of HBM2 memory each
  • Apple Afterburner card
  • Stainless steel frame with feet
  • Magic Mouse 2 + Magic Trackpad 2
  • Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad — US English
  • Accessory Kit
Do I plug both XDR display's into the same card but use Bus 1 for one display and Bus 2 for the 2nd display. Or I could plug them into different graphics cards but use the same port on each of the graphics cards?

Many thanks
 

MarkC426

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Holy moly.....I think you may have first prize for the highest spec on a new Mac Pro....:p....and on top of that 2 displays.....woooooowwww.
For the outlay you have made you should have a personal assistant call into your home for any queries ;)
 
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straightMacin

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Third XDR is arriving on Friday! So happy to complete my battlestation soon :) ... Now if I could only find a PRO Vega II Duo for sale somewhere...
 

iSquirrelu

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My XDR Pro Displays are looking washed out in comparison to my iMac Pro display I have it set on 1,600 nits but when I try the other settings for HDR for example the display is really dimmed, even on max colour. I really don't understand when these displays were supposed to have fantastic colour? Anyone seeing this?
 

cmsdock

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Well my MP7,1 is doing a 'milk run' around the USA. Not sure if it's taking short flights or traveling by land ? With the various transition locations I hope it isn't being shuffled around too much. At this time it is heading east and in the wrong direction. ;) If it's indeed a 'milk run' then maybe the truck/plane is dropping off multiple MP7,1 to customers around the USA. I'm hoping that later today it will start heading west toward my location just north of Seattle. No matter, my MP7,1 is clocking up some serious 'frequent flying/driving miles'.:):p

Label created - Thursday Jan 30th 10:42 PM - Ready for UPS
Shipped - Friday Jan 31st 6:12 PM - Round Rock, TX
Departure scan - Friday Jan 31st 11:24 PM Round Rock, TX
Arrival scan - Saturday Feb 1st 3:48 AM - DFW Airport, TX
Departure scan - Saturday Feb 1st 9:44 PM - DFW Airport, TX
Arrival scan - In transit - Sunday Feb 2nd 12:56 PM - Louisville, KY

Delivery estimated - Tuesday Feb 4th 1:15 PM - 5:15 PM (some 22 miles north of Seattle, USA)
Since your package shipped near the weekend it makes perfect sense for UPS to use ground transportation to get your shipment to Louisville in time for the next scheduled flights to Seattle. Shipping companies use the weekends as catch up days for freight that may be delayed for various reasons. In addition major ground operations utilize meet and turn style runs. Which means two drivers leave their domiciled locations and meet each other at a pre-determined meet location (truck stop or other location) exchange trailers and head back home. This gets the drivers their miles and gets them home every night as well. This also keeps the freight moving throughout the companies network and decreases transit times.
 
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