ATI Radeon 4890 Compatibility List

[Mark Booth]

Thanks doccelo!!

Please forgive my ignorance but I thought there were some features you lose on flashed 4870 and 4890 cards?! I see references to HDMI not working and audio not working. Are those just referring to PC 4890 cards that have HDMI ports, etc.?

And, for clarification... If I decided to get a 4870 card instead and flash it, that card would be 100% identical (compatibility wise) as using the genuine Apple 4870 card?? I now the Apple card has one DVI and one MiniDisplay port and the PC/flashed card would have two DVI ports. But, other than that, everything about using the flashed 4870 would be exactly the same as using Apple's card?

BTW, I noticed you linked barefeats.com in a previous message. The site owner, RobArt Morgan is a good friend of mine. In fact, my wife and I are driving up to his place on Friday for a visit.

Thank you again for taking the time to answer questions from noobs (to this whole graphics card flashing thing).

Mark

 

[Cindori]

HDMI and audio is for cards with HDMI ports.

a pc 4870 is identical to an apple card. the 4890 requires a modified plist to get 3d. lol helping robart morgans friend

 

[Treksdot]

Another confirmation for the HIS H489F1GP as a working card. There seems to be multiple versions of this card out there. Myself and another person received the model with a dark blue PCB and 6/8 pin connectors.(Works just fine with x2 6 pin cables.) Both of us managed to get the card working using the Normal flash package in the other thread. For those interested this is the card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161276

 

[Mark Booth]

HDMI and audio is for cards with HDMI ports.

a pc 4870 is identical to an apple card. the 4890 requires a modified plist to get 3d. lol helping robart morgans friend

Thanks Cindori!! To save on cost, and to eliminate the need to do the modified plist each time a new OS revision comes out, I decided to get a 512MB 4870. Please see my message in the big big big 4870 thread.

Thanks again!

Mark

 

[doccelo]

Success!

Ok, so my ATI cables finally came in today. In my excitement, I totally forgot to back up the ROM on my card. So I was a bit nervous when I went to restart, and was anxiously waiting for that gray apple screen to show up.

Alas, success! I'm typing from it now.

This is the exact card. So now we have confirmation that both cards being shipped from Newegg (the blue PCB with 8 and 6 pin power and the red PCB with 6 and 6 pin power (mine) are both confirmed working!

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

Here is a screen grab of the OpenGL bench.

 

[doccelo]

I've posted a thread here regarding the Accelero Twin Turbo aftermarket cooler and problems with insufficient power being delivered to the fans via the card. If you are thinking about getting one, this is something to consider. Just a heads up...

 

[nachtliche]

Alas, success! I'm typing from it now.

This is the exact card. So now we have confirmation that both cards being shipped from Newegg (the blue PCB with 8 and 6 pin power and the red PCB with 6 and 6 pin power (mine) are both confirmed working!

HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

Thanks so much for testing and vouching for a card currently available. I've been reading so many posts here it gets confusing. I also have a Mac Quad 1.1 and am researching to get a game card.

I have a question, do you get a power connector error message in mac OSX? Or does everything work peachy, including grey mac bootloader at startup? This is what I'm going for, and would appreciate the info as I plan to order this card.

Also could you tell me if the fan on this card is loud during average non-gaming use? thanks so much.

 

[doccelo]

Thanks so much for testing and vouching for a card currently available. I've been reading so many posts here it gets confusing. I also have a Mac Quad 1.1 and am researching to get a game card.

I have a question, do you get a power connector error message in mac OSX? Or does everything work peachy, including grey mac bootloader at startup? This is what I'm going for, and would appreciate the info as I plan to order this card.

Also could you tell me if the fan on this card is loud during average non-gaming use? thanks so much.

That was the intention of this thread when I started it...to let people know exactly which cards work and which to avoid. I'm glad it has helped you. I do not get a power connector error message in OS X. Everything does indeed work peachy, including grey boot screen. The stock card does get pretty loud around 50% fan. The more you go up, the louder it gets and pretty much sounds like a jet engine inside my Mac. At idle it is practically silent though. I put an Accelero Twin Turbo on mine, and not only is it SILENT even during heavy gaming, it also brought my temperatures down tremendously.

Hope that helps in your decision...and enjoy that card! I went from a 7300GT to this, and I'm in gaming heaven!

 

[nachtliche]

After further though I think I want a 4870 for maximum compatibility, which should function always without any modifications to OSX. Sadly it appears the 4870 compatibility list thread is dead. All confirmed working cards are not available to buy. And it appears some are confirmed problematic.. so it's quite a risk to take a guess at one. Maybe someone here can help, or help update that thread. Anyone know a working 4870 you can buy? preferably with both DVI outputs working.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/668710/

 

[pranic]

I have the XFX Radeon HD 4890 and flashed with the standard (not overclocked) ROM and Cindori's 4890 Flash.app with some success.

The card is the XFX Radeon HD 4890 Revision 5.4
Model #: HD-489A-ZDFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359

I have the MacPro1,1.

I did experience the "your power cable..." warning upon boot when I didn't have an LCD plugged into the 4890 (and had two LCDs on the old Geforce 7300).

I have the 2 ATI cables running from the motherboard to the 4890, which is in slot 1. Slot 4 contains the Geforce 7300.

Other issues/symptoms that I've experienced (not in any particular order, and have happened somewhat regularly), are as follows:

- if only booting with the 4890, the apple boot screen comes up and looks proper. About 10 seconds into the boot process, red vertical lines and weirdness ensues (screen shot attached). It continues to look bad, and the OS runs slowly.

- This message appears in the syslog:

Oct 23 09:45:43 [82] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGXMapShmemInternal : Invalid shared memory id
Oct 23 09:47:42 [82] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXMoveWindowListToWorkspace: invalid window id: 175
Oct 23 09:47:45 [82] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXMoveWindowListToWorkspace: invalid window id: 177
Oct 23 09:47:52 [82] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGXMapShmemInternal : Invalid shared memory id
Oct 23 09:48:37 [82] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGXMapShmemInternal : Invalid shared memory id
Oct 23 09:50:07 [82] Display 0x2b283412: MappedDisplay Unit 2; ColorProfile "DELL 2007WFP"
Oct 23 09:50:12 [82] kCGErrorCannotComplete: CGXPostNotificationInternal : Time out waiting for reply from "loginwindow" for notification type 109 (CID 0x6703, PID 52)

- If you boot up with two monitors plugged into the GeForce 7300, then the system boots up with those monitors intact and working as expected. If you plug another monitor into the 4890, the GUI becomes frozen, and all monitors turn blue for minutes (haven't timed it, but it's annoying). Eventually, they'll all come back, but the one plugged into the 4890 was not displaying a clear screen -- instead, it had lots of artifacts on it.

I saw another post today, that suggests that there might not be enough power in the system for the video card to be happy, so I will remove some hard drives (I have all 4 bays filled), and might remove the GeForce 7300. Will report back.

 

[Cindori]

power warning has nothing to do with power - its because of a incompatible rom

incompatible rom is also causing lines and errors

zdfc 5.4 is not compatible with the roms currently out there

see my thread and rominators posts on last pages for info to create your own rom

 

[doccelo]

@pranic

I'm not sure if you're referring to one of my posts when you say: "I saw another post today, that suggests that there might not be enough power in the system for the video card to be happy."

If you are, that post was referring to hooking up an aftermarket cooler (specifically the Accelero Twin Turbo) to the card instead of directly to the drive bay molex connectors. It had nothing to do with the system not providing enough power to the card itself....just to clear things up for others reading this. I hope you can get your ROM issues worked out so I can add another success story to the list! Good luck with it...

 

[Treksdot]

Pranic you're experiencing the same problems I did when I tried to get my ZDFC card to work. It's been revisioned out of compatibility and so it just will not work. Get yourself one of the HIS 4890 cards that have been linked previously and be stupidly happy with it.

 

[doccelo]

Pranic you're experiencing the same problems I did when I tried to get my ZDFC card to work. It's been revisioned out of compatibility and so it just will not work. Get yourself one of the HIS 4890 cards that have been linked previously and be stupidly happy with it.

I agree with ^^^. If you can, return that card and save yourself the headache and just pick up the HIS card.

 

[mfka]

Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 New Edition

Peloche made possible to run Saphire New Edition with
two methods (run it with injectors or flashing rom).
All you need to run your card is here.

If you ordered Sapphire like Cindori has (red one)
it is very likely that you will get one of these (New Edition).
Thanks to Peloche, now there is ROM written for this card,
meaning it is possible to flash.
Again this is tested only on cards with Qimonda chipsets
(peloche’s card and mine). However there is speculations
that flash method might work on Hynix chipset as well.
If you are willing to take that risk in the name of science
we might discover something, it is up to you.

As you probably already know, you will need 2 power
cables to run this beast. There is already listed where
to purchase those cables in US so here is where to find
them in Europe; http://www.applemacparts.co.uk/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=nvidia+cable&x=0&y=0
Note that they are called NVidia cables but they are
the same, Peloche bought them at this place and
he’s using them.


Instructions here are for Os X 10.6.1
Mac Pro and Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 New Edition
equipped with Qimonda memories chipsets.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 New Edition
should have this P/N and SKU#

To flash your Sapphire New Edition:

1 Download Cindori ATI flashing tool
here --> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/811768/

2 Download ROM that Peloche made exclusively for Sapphire New Edition (Qimonda chipsets)
here --> View attachment E115QA1G EFIROM.zip

3 Run Cindori ATI flashing tool and follow instructions

4 If you previously did injector method, remove ATY_Init and Natit
which are in System/Library/Extensions/, if not, skip this step and proceed to step 5.

5 Install QE_Ci from Cindori ATI flashing tool

6 Reboot



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To run card with injectors!


Important: Note that you might get the card with Hynix
memory chipset instead of Qimonda, if that is the case
this method will not work for you!


How to check which memory chipset is on your card!
Well i don’t know any other way than by removing
shield with cooling system.

Red pointers are showing chips you need to look at.
Card without shield/cooler looks like this;

What you'll have to do:

1 - Check memory chipset of the card
Hynix memory present on your card -> Yes -> sorry we can't help you
Qimonda memory present on your card -> Yes -> go to step 2 and follow up to step 11

2 - download kexthelper
here --> http://web.mac.com/v1.42ghz/Kext_Hel...elper%20b7.zip

3 - download QE_Ci_Exotic_cards_10.6.1.pkg
here --> http://is.gd/39wWt

4 - Unzip attached archive.zip and you'll have 2 files ATY.Init.kext and Natit.kext

5 - Click twice on kext helper,

6 - Drag and drop the two files (ATY.Init.kext and Natit.kext) in kext helper window

7 - Enter your administrator password and hit return.

8 - Double click on QE_Ci_Exotic_cards_10.6.1.pkg and follow instructions

9 - Reboot, no, no, Xfingers and reboot

10 - Good luck at reboot

11 - When all steps are completed, rebooted, and everything run normaly,
you can check if QE_CI is activated by downloading this demo for example:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...rdracing2.html
If this game works you are ok with QE_CI



Good luck!


Both methods you are doing at your own risk!
None of those guys including me are responsible
if something goes wrong.


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Here under is Archive (containing 2 files ATY.Init.kext and Natit.kext)
which you’ll need in step 4 and after

 

[pranic]

Just wanted to thank everyone for their contributions to this thread, and all the hard work that has gone into this effort.

I've ordered the HIS 4890 and RMAed the XFX. XFX has horrible customer service. They might respond promptly, but with really improper English and very bad "solutions". I'd recommend steering clear.

Pranic you're experiencing the same problems I did when I tried to get my ZDFC card to work. It's been revisioned out of compatibility and so it just will not work. Get yourself one of the HIS 4890
cards that have been linked previously and be stupidly happy with it.

 

[= bluntman =]

Should I upgrade or shouldn't I???

So tempting!

 

[Redneck1089]

I can confirm that another His 4890 is working! Treksdot helped me get this thing working.

I have a few problems. I couldn't get Natit to work so I had to do everything through windows with Treksdot holding my hand. After a few hours we were able to boot into OS X.

I am experiencing a problem with screen tearing with dual monitors, however. When I have both my Apple 30 inch and 20 inch monitors plugged in I get screen tearing on my 30". When I unplug the 20" the tearing goes away completely.

Does anyone know what I can do to fix the screen tearing problem? I tried reflashing with Cindori's new tool with both the normal and the overclocked ROM's, but unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.

 

[Cindori]

Newegg is back on stock with the Powercolor from main post.

 

[sadd3j]

Another success with Rominator's card (#3 in the main post)

MSI R4890-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC Edition

Had problems getting Natit to work, not sure if I ever fully resolved it, but details in the Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro

 

[= bluntman =]

Another success with Rominator's card (#3 in the main post)

MSI R4890-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC Edition

Had problems getting Natit to work, not sure if I ever fully resolved it, but details in the Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro

What is the issue with the fan? Is it running at 100% all of the time or is it just inherently louder than the fan on your previous card? I hope you won't have any further power issues when you connect your two optical drives. Please keep us posted - like you my MP also has two optical drives and four hard drives, if everything works out for you then I might take the plunge as well.

 

[sadd3j]

What is the issue with the fan? Is it running at 100% all of the time or is it just inherently louder than the fan on your previous card?

Not running 100%, just inherently louder than the 2600XT which was basically silent. If you're looking into it (and since you're in the GTA), I'll assume you know where to go to get one, otherwise PM me and I can let you know. There's a half dozen cards scattered around.

 

[doccelo]

I can confirm that another His 4890 is working! Treksdot helped me get this thing working.

I have a few problems. I couldn't get Natit to work so I had to do everything through windows with Treksdot holding my hand. After a few hours we were able to boot into OS X.

I am experiencing a problem with screen tearing with dual monitors, however. When I have both my Apple 30 inch and 20 inch monitors plugged in I get screen tearing on my 30". When I unplug the 20" the tearing goes away completely.

Does anyone know what I can do to fix the screen tearing problem? I tried reflashing with Cindori's new tool with both the normal and the overclocked ROM's, but unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.

This is the first I heard about problems with the HIS card. Let's try to get this thing figured out. I don't have a 30" to test with, but others who do and also have the HIS card please report back.

Also, thanks to everyone for your contributions so far. The compatibility list is growing and more people seem to be getting better cards into their Mac Pros. Keep the reports coming!

 

[Redneck1089]

It's the first I've heard about the problem too. Everyone else with the HIS card seems to be loving theirs. Someone just posted I think on page 44 or 45 of the Ultimate thread saying that they're running three screen and are experiencing no tearing issues whatsoever. I don't know what's gone wrong with mine.

Anyways, thank you everyone for helping me thus far. I just hope we can get this problem solved.

This is the first I heard about problems with the HIS card. Let's try to get this thing figured out. I don't have a 30" to test with, but others who do and also have the HIS card please report back.

Also, thanks to everyone for your contributions so far. The compatibility list is growing and more people seem to be getting better cards into their Mac Pros. Keep the reports coming!

 

[mfka]

This is the first I heard about problems with the HIS card. Let's try to get this thing figured out. I don't have a 30" to test with, but others who do and also have the HIS card please report back.

Also, thanks to everyone for your contributions so far. The compatibility list is growing and more people seem to be getting better cards into their Mac Pros. Keep the reports coming!

Doccelo,

You did not put Sapphire New Edition as a working one and yet
there is installed 3 cards of a kind and are working perfectly.

Cheers!