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-hh

macrumors 68030
Jul 17, 2001
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NJ Highlands, Earth
The Z will survive a corner hit on a hard floor with a somewhat distracting scuff mark - which for a regular user might be enough to continue using, but in my case necessitated replacement - as has multiple Macbook Pros, which featured far more noticeable dents with relatively insignificant impacts while in a laptop bag, as it's my normal practice not to use laptops which look excessively used.

Since for your needs that a 'pristine' looking machine is your requirement, the obvious question would appear to be to ask how many more expensive laptops you need to have replaced before you realize that your weak link is the laptop bag?

Just buy a Pelican case. For example, you can easily get a Pelican 1430 for a laptop for under US$100.


-hh
 

Sesshi

macrumors G3
Jun 3, 2006
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One Nation Under Gordon
You don't think, as an apparent engineer, that the wish to carry a low-mass notebook would result in needs that would exclude an armoured case?

Don't get me wrong - I have several Hardiggs in which I put the Apples in, in situations where I would put my Dells into an ordinary laptop bag - but especially with a deficiently engineered machine like the Air where so many things are done for the sake of tactile and stylistic superiority, such cases defeats the object of carrying a light machine.

The Z drop was one of the very rare occasions in which I actually dropped the machine, and it was bag/sleeveless at the time. Every single occasion that required a replacement of an Apple for similar cosmetic reasons, the laptop was inside a laptop bag and the impact much less severe, other machines from Dell, HP and Sony also being exposed to such impacts in the same / similar bags and being completely unaffected.

The point is - and I made it before - Apple's choice of materials which is driven by marketing / design-only concerns than engineering merit or even an ability to adequately take a non-babying everyday use without looking like **** after a while (which is one of the reasons why Apples *do* get babied, because it is very clear to most people of reasonable intelligence that it would look like **** if they treated it like any other laptop).

If you're impressed by the design touches irrespective of the actual engineering viability for a machine that's not an ornament, I can understand that perfectly well, I'm impressed. If you're impressed by the ability of Apple to appeal dead-on to what the unwashed masses consider premium, that's also perfectly valid - as I said above, design and marketing.

If on the other hand you're impressed with Apple simply because they brought in more automation to offset the chronically bad human QC - and a resulting manufacturing procedure which has to strike an ultimately somewhat non-optimal compromise between finished weight, strength and ease of volume production - to laptop manufacture where it really matters to Apple (i.e. the externals), then perhaps your engineer hat needs examining.
 

-hh

macrumors 68030
Jul 17, 2001
2,550
336
NJ Highlands, Earth
You don't think, as an apparent engineer, that the wish to carry a low-mass notebook would result in needs that would exclude an armoured case?

On the contrary: it is overtly obvious that light weight and ruggedness are self-contradicting requirements. Yet we always seem to then be surprised when we still hear of people trying to have their cake and eat it too...why?

Don't get me wrong - I have several Hardiggs in which I put the Apples in, in situations where I would put my Dells into an ordinary laptop bag - but especially with a deficiently engineered machine like the Air where so many things are done for the sake of tactile and stylistic superiority, such cases defeats the object of carrying a light machine.

It doesn't defeat the object, per se: it satisfies a different requirement (namely, of successful transport without the slightest cosmetic mar).

The point is - and I made it before - Apple's choice of materials which is driven by marketing / design-only concerns than engineering merit or even an ability to adequately take a non-babying everyday use without looking like **** after a while (which is one of the reasons why Apples *do* get babied, because it is very clear to most people of reasonable intelligence that it would look like **** if they treated it like any other laptop).

Point accepted as is without interest in disputing. If it doesn't meet your requirements, then don't buy it ...

Or if you do buy it anyway, then when it only lives up to its design goals instead of exceeding them, figure out if you have any real basis to complain.

If you're impressed...

If on the other hand you're impressed with Apple...

Actually, its none of the above.

The MBA is merely an interesting design that is targeted to a certain niche, which puts a higher priority on asthetic elements than other design factors. For them, "pretty but fragile" may very well be a perfectly acceptable trade-off...and for you, something different is more optimal. Gee, we're all different (Stop the Presses!).

However, since it is still a "1.0" revision product, it should be intuitively obvious to any designer that it hasn't necessarily been magically been matured somehow so that mainstream users with broader and different expectations (such as its relative degree of operational toughness) will also all be satisfied and in bliss. It would be a wonderful world if all '1.0' product adopters realized this, but that never happens.

In any event, my point has been that once one commits to a decision, one then should be expected to live with the consequences.

...and please note that this has nothing to do at all with "Brand".


...Apple...brought in more automation to offset the chronically bad human QC - and a resulting manufacturing procedure which has to strike an ultimately somewhat non-optimal compromise between finished weight, strength and ease of volume production...

There's a relevant article in the March 09 issue of Mechanical Engineering (journal) in regards to the western challenges in Quality for contemporary manufacturing in China that you might want to read.

-hh
 

dudeitsjay

macrumors regular
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Mar 26, 2009
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While I agree the new Unibody designed notebooks seem more fragile than the average notebook, I thought I'd introduce this article to the discussion.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5215296/unibody-construction-helps-macbook-air-survive-plane-crash

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/26/state/n190040S78.DTL
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2009/04/15/bc-surrey-laptop-crash-kills-woman.html

Good thing the mba was secured... or was it?
I bet all those killer laptops had windows on em... <3 :apple: <3

Anyhow updated the pictures.

HH you win. No1 can beat your PE =[. Can you stop pwning everyone with your uberness?
 
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