Be honest: Do you have buyer’s remorse, re your “new” MBP following the latest keynote?

[The Cockney Rebel]

As per the title.

Apple seems to have gone from long update cycles, to updating relatively quickly.

You just know the next MBP will have Centre Stage & Ultra as an option. So for those os you who went for high end configurations, do you now feel a bit … “hurt?”

Just a question, not trying to start up hate here.

 

[fwmireault]

Nope, the M1 Ultra looks amazing but I am far from needing this kind of power, the M1 Pro is more than enough for me. My ultimate setup always was to dock the MBP to an Apple monitor, and the event yesterday will allow me to do just that.

Mac Studio looks very nice, but I’m not the target user and it still would not give me the flexibility and portability of a docked laptop. I am happy for the people who will take advantage of the power and the form factor

Also, I doubt M1 Ultra will ever be in a laptop, I think it is designed for desktop use, seeing how big the fans are in the Mac Studio

 

[ian87w]

As per the title.

Apple seems to have gone from long update cycles, to updating relatively quickly.

You just know the next MBP will have Centre Stage & Ultra as an option. So for those os you who went for high end configurations, do you now feel a bit … “hurt?”

Just a question, not trying to start up hate here.

I don't think the M1 Ultra will make it into the Macbook Pro. Looking at the cooling system of the Mac Studio, seems like the Ultra will need a more extensive cooling system. I mean we already have reports of the Macbook Pros getting quite heated with the M1 Max at full throttle. The Macbook Pros still needs to be a laptop.

Speaking of long update cycle, look at the 2020 M1 Macbook Air and Mac mini. They're not updated yet.

All I want is a predictable upgrade cycle so one can time the best moment to buy these expensive stuff. So far, Apple seems to be doing every other cycle of refresh.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

Did I miss something? Has Apple announced a new MacBook yesterday?

 

[bobmans]

MBP is never going to get an Ultra. It can’t cool the chip under load enough and even if it could, a MBP would not be able to provide enough power to the chip when on battery power.

 

[Sterkenburg]

Why in the world? There is nothing available in the portable workstation space better than the late 2021 MBP, and there won't be for a while. It's obvious that something superior is going to come out at some point in the future, and so what?

M1 Ultra is amazing but is not a laptop-oriented chip (just look at the cooling solution they used for the Studio), and even if it were made into one it would be totally overkill for me.

 

[pshufd]

I bought the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 and I love the laptop. It is far more power than I need. My ideal laptop would be a MacBook Air 16 with 32 GB RAM, Magsafe and three USB-C ports. Apple doesn't make this nor are they likely in the near future. So, in the meantime, I am enjoying my MBP 16. I have no interest in a MBP Ultra or even a MBP Max.

The Studio is interesting but I already have a mini. If they came out with the Studio at the same time as the original M1 mini, I would have bought the cheapest Studio. As with the laptop, I do not need more than an M1 for CPU/GPU. I would have really liked it to support 3 monitors and have 32 GB RAM available.

My question is how many of these are they going to sell as the vast majority of Apple customers does not need this level of power and Apple has much lower-priced options suitable for the vast majority.

 

[iDron]

There won't be a MBP Ultra most likely. The current MBP already consumes 140W at the peak. This is more than the Intel MBPs did. A MBP Ultra would probably need 200W power supply, it might be hard to run on battery, and thermals probably won't support it.

 

[Fishrrman]

Nope.
No remorse.
I picked up a MacBook Pro 14" "base model", replaces a 2015 MBP 13" "base".
Nice upgrade, no complaints.

 

[dugbug]

maybe re-ask this with 24" imac purchasers. Before there was no (reasonably priced) desktop display or more powerful (desktop) computer. 2K for a mac studio, not bad.

 

[jz0309]

As per the title.

Apple seems to have gone from long update cycles, to updating relatively quickly.

You just know the next MBP will have Centre Stage & Ultra as an option. So for those os you who went for high end configurations, do you now feel a bit … “hurt?”

Just a question, not trying to start up hate here.

really? Intel used to release new processors every year, that started 25+ years ago, Apple now doing the same thing ... buyers remorse in computer tech is utter nonsense, nothing else.
If you spend 3+k on a new computer and you feel "hurt" 6 months later because something new came out, you either didn't do your homework, or you didn't need that computer in the first place ...

 

[SpotOnT]

My question is how many of these are they going to sell as the vast majority of Apple customers does not need this level of power and Apple has much lower-priced options suitable for the vast majority.

I think at some point that doesn’t really matter. Creating a full ecosystem is important to supporting/maintaining the Apple environment.

If it was just about mass sales, Apple probably would have stopped selling computers when the iPod took off.

 

[robco74]

Not at all, but I didn't go for a higher end config. I'm quite content with the performance of the M1 Pro.

 

[smithdr]

I have had my 64 GB/32 Core GPU/4 TB 16MBP for a month. Do I have buyer's remorse? A little.

I traded in a 2016 MBP15 that I had concerns with the display. So I required a laptop. I am disappointed with the performance the new 16MBP with respect to Fusion animations--much slower that I anticipated.

Do I think that the M1 Ultra is going to be that much better with Fusion? I am not certain that more GPU cores and CPU cores will make a difference. They are under utilized with the M1 Max. More to do with the software than the computer.

When Apple puts out an M2 Ultra Mac Studio I might consider it. Then when it comes time for a new laptop, I'll buy a more modestly specified laptop and do most on the work Studio via screen sharing.

Don

 

[Krevnik]

Nope. The M1 Max is a little overkill as it is for me, but the M1 Max in a Studio would make a pretty good desktop for my needs for many years. But it can’t be used away from my desk, which I’ve been doing a lot with the MBP.

The Ultra is far more than I need, so there’s not really much to be missing out on.

 

[the8thark]

maybe re-ask this with 24" imac purchasers. Before there was no (reasonably priced) desktop display or more powerful (desktop) computer. 2K for a mac studio, not bad.

I second this.

 

[darngooddesign]

As per the title.

Apple seems to have gone from long update cycles, to updating relatively quickly.

You just know the next MBP will have Centre Stage & Ultra as an option. So for those os you who went for high end configurations, do you now feel a bit … “hurt?”

Just a question, not trying to start up hate here.

I got an M1-Pro but had I bought an M1-Max, the base studio uses the same M1-Max and the M1-Ultra is not a laptop chip so... no theoretical regrets either.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

Nope.
No remorse.
I picked up a MacBook Pro 14" "base model", replaces a 2015 MBP 13" "base".
Nice upgrade, no complaints.

When did you get your 14”?

Also, when do you reckon the MBPs will be refreshed?

 

[Stevenyo]

Not at all. Seriously doubt center stage or an “ultra” chip will be in any MBP anytime soon. The display is too thin for the camera module and the device too thin and battery life focused to properly manage twice the heat and power draw.

I bought my M1 max knowing I would at best keep it as my daily until the m3 max. Just like when I bough the top of the line first MacBook Pro and first retina MacBook Pro. I wanted the new features but also knew that the new architecture would see serious growth quickly.

For the next ~2 years this will be a great machine. And in 2023 I’ll seriously look at an upgrade unless we are just then getting the m2 max with no major changes beyond the chip.

Also, so far this is the most complete/overkill machine I’ve ever owned. For the first time I can remember, I can’t really bring my new machine to its knees. The only weak point is that I still own a gaming PC that only sees at most a couple hundred hours a year of use, but I gave up on boot camp for gaming in about 2015, so that’s not a change.

Technology always progresses. You should only buy new tech for two reasons: you will be able to use it as a tool for work it to make a positive return in less than 3 years, or you want it and can afford it without any impact on any essential budget items. These are tools or toys, and in either case if you’re spending enough to have buyers remorse, you’re spending more than you can afford on them.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

really? Intel used to release new processors every year, that started 25+ years ago, Apple now doing the same thing ... buyers remorse in computer tech is utter nonsense, nothing else.
If you spend 3+k on a new computer and you feel "hurt" 6 months later because something new came out, you either didn't do your homework, or you didn't need that computer in the first place ...

I agree.

And that’s my concern.

Until now, you could be almost certain that if you bought a newly released Mac, you’d have the newest for a while.

Now, updating the processors so frequently, that’s not the case.

 

[robco74]

These aren't really updates, Apple is just expanding the product line. Unlike Intel and AMD however, they don't announce a roadmap in advance.

Actual updates will likely happen later this year or next when M2 is released. Right now we're getting bigger and expanded versions of M1.

 

[pshufd]

These aren't really updates, Apple is just expanding the product line. Unlike Intel and AMD however, they don't announce a roadmap in advance.

Actual updates will likely happen later this year or next when M2 is released. Right now we're getting bigger and expanded versions of M1.

I'm rather impressed by Apple not revealing product until the launch date while there are leaks on Intel and AMD CPUs fairly far in advance of launch.

 

[darngooddesign]

...Until now, you could be almost certain that if you bought a newly released Mac, you’d have the newest for a while.

There will be no newer Mini or iMac until the M2 is released; there will be no newer 14/16 MBP until until the M2-Pro or M2-Max is released; etc.

 

[spiderman0616]

I used to get up in arms about stuff like this, but not anymore. My base model M1 MBA is already way more powerful than I need anything to be currently. Anything above that was not built for me and does not need to be owned by me. Show me the next MacBook Air, and then we're talking.

 

[jz0309]

I agree.

And that’s my concern.

Until now, you could be almost certain that if you bought a newly released Mac, you’d have the newest for a while.

Now, updating the processors so frequently, that’s not the case.

but what Apple has released thus far is for different users/use cases:
M1 based: average to average+ consumers
M1 Pro/Max: power professionals/enthusiasts - mobile
M1 Max/Ultra: power professionals/enthusiasts - desktop

what's missing at this point is a M1 Pro/Max level desktop, and a new Mac Pro

I bought a M1 MBA back in July last year, it is still the "newest", and it still does everything I use it for and will do so for years to come.

What update/upgrade cycles Apple will move to remains to be seen, we can have that conversation in a few years ...