Beach ball navigating bookmarks in Safari

[ab225]

This has been bugging me for a while, every time I go to a folder within the Bookmarks menu in Safari under Big Sur it beach balls. It does it both on a Mac mini 2014 (for 3-5 seconds) and my MacBook Air M1 (only about 1 second). Granted, I have a large collection of bookmarks, but I have a 2012 unibody MacBook Pro with only 4GBs Ram running Catalina that doesn't beach ball at all doing the same thing. As far as I can tell, there's no other pinwheeling doing other tasks, just on this. I wouldn't think it should be be a very taxing operation. I've tried turning Safari off in iCloud then back on. It doesn't seem to make a difference.

Could my iCloud bookmarks file have got corrupted or something? Has anyone else encountered this? Any suggestions?

 

[notgonna]

Yes, encountered. Sorry, no suggestions. In my case it's only occasional. Safari Technology Preview 118 14.1, macOS 11.1.

 

[ab225]

Yes, encountered. Sorry, no suggestions. In my case it's only occasional. Safari Technology Preview 118 14.1, macOS 11.1.

I get it consistently every time I startup Safari. If I quit it and restart or if I restart the computer. Once I've used the menu repeatedly it stops pinwheeling. It's just annoying to see on a brand new MacBook Air M1, using a bookmarks menu bar makes it choke.

 

[notgonna]

In my case it happens, as far as I can tell, randomly; even without restart or relaunch.

 

[x34]

any solution here?

happening on my intel 16" mbp too and it is very annoying.

 

[Marty_Macfly]

Hi all,

I’m getting this since I upgraded to big Sur 11.1.

Hope it gets sorted, because sometimes the pause is longer than other times. I'm left hanging - I don't know if I should do something else, while waiting for it to get there! really should not be happening with Big Sur's default browser.

Regards
Martin

 

[Solenoid289]

I have the same issue since Big Sur Developer Beta 1.
Downgraded to Catalina and everything works smoothly.

It seems Big Sur can't handle Favicons correctly.
If there are many bookmarks or histories, beachball happens.
I checked even the Debug menu and there's no way to disable Favicon.
How to enable Debug menu

So, no solution at this time and seems Apple doesn't care about this (sent feedbacks over and over but nothing changes).

 

[ab225]

I still have the same thing happening over and over. I submitted feedback to Apple a while back too. I haven't updated to 11.2 yet so don't know if that makes any difference

 

[vetoes]

I got same thing happening but on Safari history. Might be because of huge amounts of entries in history and not so huge amount of bookmarks. It was bad when I updated it on Big Sur and with every update is better. Now on 11.2 is just small delay of favicon generating.

Not sure but I suspect that issue might be favicon because delay (beachball) is consistent with favicon being generated in the dropdown list from menu bar.

I also know that something with favicon is diferent in Safari 14. On previous versions favicons were cached and displayed from that cache for a long time but now they are quick to refresh. Maybe not using cache for long?

 

[x34]

I got same thing happening but on Safari history. Might be because of huge amounts of entries in history and not so huge amount of bookmarks. It was bad when I updated it on Big Sur and with every update is better. Now on 11.2 is just small delay of favicon generating.

Not sure but I suspect that issue might be favicon because delay (beachball) is consistent with favicon being generated in the dropdown list from menu bar.

I also know that something with favicon is diferent in Safari 14. On previous versions favicons were cached and displayed from that cache for a long time but now they are quick to refresh. Maybe not using cache for long?

i observed the same, sounds valid.

 

[ab225]

I got same thing happening but on Safari history. Might be because of huge amounts of entries in history and not so huge amount of bookmarks. It was bad when I updated it on Big Sur and with every update is better. Now on 11.2 is just small delay of favicon generating.

Not sure but I suspect that issue might be favicon because delay (beachball) is consistent with favicon being generated in the dropdown list from menu bar.

I also know that something with favicon is diferent in Safari 14. On previous versions favicons were cached and displayed from that cache for a long time but now they are quick to refresh. Maybe not using cache for long?

My history menu is fine. My bookmark menu is fine. The specific issue for me is navigating folders in the bookmark menu

 

[steve333]

Glad I saw this thread here. I've seen threads on Reddit as well.
Click on Bookmarks menu and get the beach ball as the favicons are loaded. Never happened before Big Sur.
I have a 2018 Mini with SSD and 16 Gb RAM. This should not be happening and it's really ruining my experience on this previously speedy machine.
I started a thread on Apple Support and got the usual do this, do that nonsense that does nothing.
Apple just doesn't have the customer service or reliability it once had. Concentrate on your customers and product, Timmy, not social issues.

 

[steve333]

I don't want to jinx it but I decided to run disk first aid and afterwards I clicked on the Bookmarks menu 6 different times and the beachball effect went away.
Try it and see if it helps you too and post here afterwards if you can

 

[x34]

I don't want to jinx it but I decided to run disk first aid and afterwards I clicked on the Bookmarks menu 6 different times and the beachball effect went away.
Try it and see if it helps you too and post here afterwards if you can

no effect.

 

[steve333]

Nope, didn't work.

I turned on the Mac today and the spinning ball is back.

Darn it!

 

[notgonna]

Unchanged - not fixed - with Technology Preview Release 120 (Safari 14.2, WebKit 16612.1.2.6). I haven't updated to 11.2.1. I wish to wait a few days on that.

 

[steve333]

Unchanged - not fixed - with Technology Preview Release 120 (Safari 14.2, WebKit 16612.1.2.6). I haven't updated to 11.2.1. I wish to wait a few days on that.

Unreal, why isn't Apple responding?

 

[Freeangel1]

I get it too. 27" iMac i9 with 72GB of ram even.

Big Sur is a BIG BLOATED pile of........

These people install Big Sur on 2015 MacBook airs and tell their machines are working great. OK.

 

[notgonna]

Can an 11.3 beta tester let us know if it fixes the spinning beach ball stalling with Safari Bookmarks? If so, I may try when the public beta is released. Safari version build under 11.3?

Received and answer: On macOS 11.3 beta 1: Safari 14.1 (16611.1.10.15)
#734: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s.2242170/page-30?post=29615714#post-29615714

Current Technology Preview is Release 120 (Safari 14.2, WebKit 16612.1.2.6)

 

[svenmany]

Is anyone experiencing this running Safari extensions? I noticed the beachball on startup today (so unrelated issue to the OP) but then noticed a message under the battery icon in the menubar. It said that DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials was using significant energy.

 

[notgonna]

I've tried with all extensions disabled, even removed. No difference. With one or two re-installed and enabled, no difference. Still intermittent stalling.

 

[notgonna]

Updated to Big Sur 11.3 beta 2 (20E5186d), and with Safari Tech Preview Release 120 (Safari 14.2, WebKit 16612.1.2.6). No improvement.


I also tried Disk First Aid as recommended above, but no change.

 

[Marty_Macfly]

Hi Guys,


Not sure if this will help you all, but I tried this and it appears to have worked.

Been using the M1 mba Since mid December, not sure if I’ve ever left it on overnight for it to do overnight maintenance, indexing et cetera.

Last week, I left it on all night for 1 night, power plugged in, with Wi-Fi on. The beachball seems of gone off Safari, and has continued to be fixed since then.

Previous to that, I tried clearing all the history from Safari, that helped for a very short while, and then the beachball started up again shortly after.


So I got a feeling it’s got be the overnight maintenance that helped my particular problem.

Hope that helps

Best Wishes
Martin

 

[Apple_Robert]

Updated to Big Sur 11.3 beta 2 (20E5186d), and with Safari Tech Preview Release 120 (Safari 14.2, WebKit 16612.1.2.6). No improvement.


I also tried Disk First Aid as recommended above, but no change.

Did you try creating a new user account and seeing if the problem still occurs?

 

[steve333]

Hi Guys,


Not sure if this will help you all, but I tried this and it appears to have worked.

Been using the M1 mba Since mid December, not sure if I’ve ever left it on overnight for it to so overnight maintenance, indexing et cetera.

Last week, I left it on all night for 1 night, power plugged in, with Wi-Fi on. The beachball seems of gone off Safari, and has continued to be fixed since then.

Previous to that, I tried clearing all the history from Safari, that helped for a very short while, and then the beachball started up again shortly after.


So I got a feeling it’s gonna be the overnight maintenance that helped my particular problem.

Hope that helps

Best Wishes
Martin

I tried it last night and it didn't work, still the beach ball