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Beejive for iphone app
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not so ridiculous when horizontal view keyboard takes up a huge chunk of the screen, leaving very little screen space to actually see msgs.
i for one don't mind the fact that there is no auto horizontal txting view for sms for the above reason, though they should make it optional
I am currently using palring and aol which aren't "too bad", but not logging me off when i close the app (palringo) would rule. Aol keeps your messages in the background for about 5 mins i think, then boots you.
I guess thats true about the keyboard taking up space, but it should definately be an option...obviously apple doesnt subscribe to the development philosophy my company does...everything we code gives the user the option to choose however they want it. i think apple's mentality is we are right, so there should be no option.
I guess thats true about the keyboard taking up space, but it should definately be an option...obviously apple doesnt subscribe to the development philosophy my company does...everything we code gives the user the option to choose however they want it. i think apple's mentality is we are right, so there should be no option.
patience grasshopper
according to the beejive dev, he submitted the app to apple for review this past monday on 22 September. It seems to me that "first" time apps take longer to be approved as compared to the approval process for updates to existing apps. for existing apps, the average from what i can gather is about a week, and since beejive is a new app, i would expect it to show in the app store towards the middle/end of next week.
however, i'll still be happy if proven wrong and the app hits early next week.
I'm more excited about PUSH notification from Apple. Beejive looks to be a solid app, but without the real PUSH its severely hindered. Did Apple abandon PUSH for Sept release? Has it been moved to Oct? Texting is so behind on the iPhone compared to other makers. Like the sidekicks that I see constantly see everywhere.
$16 is definitely too high for an app like this on the iphone. i can see the pricing structure on some of the other platforms, but i can imagine that pricing this app under $10 and since it is an IM app under $5 makes more sense its got potential to sell 5 times what their app sells for other platforms. they'll learn the hard way though.
As macbookairman reported.........beejive has been released and is in the app store. i bought it and it's AWESOME!!!
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...291720439&mt=8
other thread was started by macbookairman to discuss the release at:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/571613/
i put some of my initial thoughts over there
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...291720439&mt=8
other thread was started by macbookairman to discuss the release at:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/571613/
i put some of my initial thoughts over there
apparently you can't "search" for it directly but if you follow the app store link at:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...291720439&mt=8
it's there
as for ntrigue, if you are saying i'm lying and its not there, i will say don't be an ass. it's there (in the US store at least). i suggest you click on the app store link before throwing out useless comments like that. however if you are not referring to me, my apologies
also, look at the iphone tab here at macrumors and towards the right you will see a short list of recently released apps, beejive is currently the third app listed
I dunno, but MobileChat is like what, $7? If I'm gonna pay that I might as well pay for Beejive which looks much nicer... IM+ and Palringo are both free however, I'd guess that's a more appropriate comparison. I've only had my iPod touch a couple of weeks, originally I downloaded Fring but other than VoIP that doesn't really have much going for it.
Tonight I downloaded both IM+ and Palringo... Each has it's upsides I guess, but I might stick with IM+, might keep Palringo too though. IM+ seems far less cluttered and it runs smoother, but the best part (and the one I've seen mentioned the 'least) is that it offers a landscape keyboard if you turn the iPod/iPhone sideways. I guess they might've added that recently, but it easily makes up for a lot of other missing stuff.
Palringo has some other fluff IM+ doesn't though... It lets you send emoticons and pictures, and it displays a contact's status messages while also letting you change yours. It also keeps you connected on their servers for an unspecified length of time so you can do something like take a call w/o disappearing (hence why you need a Palringo account, unlike IM+).
I guess that will be moot eventually, once Apple gets their ducks in order with regards to push notifications ('least on the iPhone, dunno w/the iPod). If you use MSN Messenger mainly you have offline messaging anyway so it's also kinda moot, I dunno if AIM does? Palringo seems more cluttered than IM+ overall, it has this randon/useless Groups tab, and it seems to take 5+ seconds to switch you from Online to Away/Invisible (I'm guessing because of the dependence to their servers).
That's my take on those two... Are there any other free alternatives besides them and Fring? I refuse to pay $10+ on my iPod for something I've never paid for on my phone or on my computer, regardless of how nice it is.
Does it have a landscape keyboard like IM+ btw? Heh.I was on the verge of buying one of those landscape apps for e-mail but with IM+ having one I might skip it, I text (on my phone) and IM more than I e-mail anyway.
Beejive does let you use a horizontal keyboard. I don't use it, and don't get the point since you can only see about 2 lines of text on the screen. The regular keyboard works just fine for me.
There seems to be a huge misconception over what Apple's Push notifications mean for apps like instant messenger clients as I've stated multiple times in other threads an app isn't going to be able to utilize Apple's push service unless there is a back end server architecture in place for the app so all it is going to change is apps like Beejive will b able to notify you via the push notifications instead of via email and also potentially update the badge on the icon to show the number of unread messages.
The point of a server keeping you logged on is so you appear available to chat even though you don't have the app open so offline messaging isn't the same thing as really who IM's someone when they are offline anyway?
IM+ does so too btw, in case someone missed it in the wall of text of my previous post... I find it easier to type with. I still can't type with two hands using it oriented vertically (long fingers I guess?) but horizontally it's a cinch, don't need to see more than 2 lines to type an IM response.
Well, in the context that I was thinking of, what I said made more sense... i.e. Palringo keeps you logged on for a few minutes while you take a call or open Safari so that you don't disappear from your friend's contact list, but if they're aware you're on your iPod/iPhone (and are somewhat technically inclined I guess) they'll realize you might be disappearing/re-appearing often anyway.
I understand that even after the push notifications there's still plenty of merit to the app provider keeping you logged on, as Beejive (and MC?) does I believe... What I was dismissing was Palringo's sole ability to keep you logged on for short spans of time, which seems far less useful overall.
The whole push workaround still seems like a lot of trouble to go thru just because Apple is dead set on having no background apps though... Wouldn't it be easier if they just coded their own lightweight IM app and then made an exception on background processes within the software for that one app? It's still entirely under their control, and far less complex imo.
I'm not even sure every one of these IM providers ('specially the ones giving it away for free) will bother handling that back-end upgrade to take advantage of Apple's push options; though I guess at 'least AOL would so there'll still be free AIM. Don't think there'd be incentive for MS to port a free MS Live client even then though.
Well, in the context that I was thinking of, what I said made more sense... i.e. Palringo keeps you logged on for a few minutes while you take a call or open Safari so that you don't disappear from your friend's contact list, but if they're aware you're on your iPod/iPhone (and are somewhat technically inclined I guess) they'll realize you might be disappearing/re-appearing often anyway.
I understand that even after the push notifications there's still plenty of merit to the app provider keeping you logged on, as Beejive (and MC?) does I believe... What I was dismissing was Palringo's sole ability to keep you logged on for short spans of time, which seems far less useful overall.
The whole push workaround still seems like a lot of trouble to go thru just because Apple is dead set on having no background apps though... Wouldn't it be easier if they just coded their own lightweight IM app and then made an exception on background processes within the software for that one app? It's still entirely under their control, and far less complex imo.
I'm not even sure every one of these IM providers ('specially the ones giving it away for free) will bother handling that back-end upgrade to take advantage of Apple's push options; though I guess at 'least AOL would so there'll still be free AIM. Don't think there'd be incentive for MS to port a free MS Live client even then though.
The thing is that running even a light-weight IM client in the background makes more than a significant amount of difference in terms of performance and battery life. You also run into the possibility that the application will crash in the background. For IM, push is the best solution. The only applications which need to run in the background are applications like iTrail or the radio applications.