Best argument for NOT buying the Watch?

[JerTheGeek]

Just a slight correction, it is water resistant. We just don't know (and may never) the exact IP rating yet. Maybe you meant 'waterproof' as is in ATM 5 which it won't be.

Yes that's what I meant.

 

[JerTheGeek]

Okay so after a lot of thinking, I have come up with a few arguments for not buying the watch, for me personally.

1. I may not having money the end of the year to upgrade my iPad mini, so I need to upgrade it with Christmas money.
2. I dont want to have to deal with iOS 9 on my mini, for three months before my birthday (which is when I would get the iPad next year if I did get the watch). I'm sure iOS 9 will be very slow and lagggy on the iPad mini and will probably be missing half the features.
3. As I said earlier, I still find many of the features of the pebble to be better than the features in the watch. When I'm in the shower I want to be able to control the volume of my music or hockey radio broadcast (something I listen to almost every night in the shower). And I want to be able to easily see the screen and read it outside in bright sunlight. The Watch doesn't provide these features, but the pebble watch does. It really doesn't make sense for me personally to buy the watch when I already will have a pebble watch that provides most of the features I want in a watch and smartwatch; since the Watch doesn't provide some of these features I want, such as using it in the shower or being able to see the time in the pool, beach, etc. it doesn't make sense for me to buy it.
4. I still think that waiting for the second gen will be a better idea, as second gen device are always way better than the first gen.

So those are my top arguments for me personally to not get the watch. My plan now is to plan on getting the iPad Air 2 when it comes out refurbished, and maybe when the Apple Watch comes out and I see it in person I'll change my mind about it. But as for right now, I th it makes much more sense to get the iPad.

 

[Night Spring]

How ever you want to call it. I want to be able to use the watch, while running even in a driving rain storm, also be able to shower with it on. I want a sturdy product that doesn't break with the simplest uses.

I've never had a water proof watch, so this concept of showering with a watch on feels totally alien to me. I mean, when you shower, you take off all your clothes, so taking off the watch while you are at it doesn't seem like too much of an additional step. Plus, doesn't the watch get in the way while you are washing up? I have long hair, so I think it might get tangled in my hair.

So for me, water proofing is not a necessity for a watch. There are many other factors I'm wondering about, such as, is it comfortable to wear? Will I be able to do much with it other than tell time? And I do feel disappointed it doesn't have GPS. I'll probably get the watch, and try it for a few days before deciding whether to keep it or not.

With the iPhone, I wasn't interested in the first gen, so I skipped it. With the iPad, I knew that was the product I'd been waiting for, so I got one on launch day. The Apple watch is different, in that I'm interested in it, yet unsure if it'll work for me or not.

 

[bubulol]

Next big thing from Apple
Apple Anal Plug into your anus
It will take temperature, you can share your anal datas with others, cool

Stop those pathetic connected gagdet, waste money, i dont wanna buy any of them.
I can read notifications on smartphone, it will take me few seconds to take out of pocket

 

[paulrbeers]

Stop those pathetic connected gagdet, waste money, i dont wanna buy any of them.
I can read notifications on smartphone, it will take me few seconds to take out of pocket

I thought the same thing until I got my Garmin Vivosmart which gets text and phone call notifications (as well as any other iOS notifications) and I can read them right from my watch. What is nice, is at home I can leave my phone in the kitchen and go play with my kids, cook dinner, etc. etc. Any notifications i get show up right on my wrist. I can decide if I care enough to go back to my phone. By not having my phone on me, I don't feel as obligated to check facebook, play games, check my email, etc. Basically I am already more present for my kids, yet I don't feel like I am going to miss an important phone call or text.

Some people are probably really good at ignoring their Smart Phone, but based on what I see when out and about those people (who ignore their smart phones) are by far the minority....

 

[pdaholic]

So back and forth I go.....
I tell myself over and over that the Watch isn't a good watch, unlike the pebble, which IMO is much better as a watch, and is what I'm getting for Christmas.

Well there you go. You're getting a Pebble. I got one a couple of weeks ago, and I can tell you that once you get past some of the iOS shortcomings, it's great. I'm sure the Apple watch can do more, but it will have some big issues. The e-ink display on the Pebble means it's essentially always on like a regular watch. Every time the backlight on the Apple Watch comes on, goodbye battery. My Pebble definitely lasts 6-7 days, and I wear it in the shower.

All that being said, I'll probably get the Apple Watch too!

 

[Julien]

...Every time the backlight on the Apple Watch comes on, goodbye battery....

Actually no backlight, it's OLED.

 

[qcmacmini]

It's interesting, I have a TAG that I think was worth the money, but this seems expensive and not very useful to me.

If I want phone functions, I pull out my phone. All I need my watch to do is tell the time and look nice. I don't see the appeal in the look of the Apple watch.

The only feature I would possibly like is the health/fitness aspect for when I go running. For that I'll wait for the second gen sports model to come out that's cheaper.

It does annoy me carrying around my iPhone when I go running. However, they are saying the watch only works when you have an iPhone to go with it! Therefore it once again becomes useless for when I go running as I can just take the iPhone.

 

[Julien]

....For that I'll wait for the second gen sports model to come out that's cheaper...

Doubt that, Apple traditionally added features but holds the line on pricing, The original iPhone being an exception.

...It does annoy me carrying around my iPhone when I go running. However, they are saying the watch only works when you have an iPhone to go with it! Therefore it once again becomes useless for when I go running as I can just take the iPhone.

You can run without your iPhone. You just won't be able to get tracking/mapping info of your run.

 

[Night Spring]

You can run without your iPhone. You just won't be able to get tracking/mapping info of your run.

To clarify, it will count the number of steps you take, and calculate the distance you ran based on the steps. But it won't map the route.

I think Tim Cook also said during an interview that you can store music on the watch and listen to it while you are away from the phone, but he didn't say how much storage the watch has.

 

[Julien]

To clarify, it will count the number of steps you take, and calculate the distance you ran based on the steps. But it won't map the route.

I think Tim Cook also said during an interview that you can store music on the watch and listen to it while you are away from the phone, but he didn't say how much storage the watch has.

I'll add my 2¢ worth of clarification too. In order to listen to music you must have BT headphones. There is no headphone jack.

 

[qcmacmini]

To clarify, it will count the number of steps you take, and calculate the distance you ran based on the steps. But it won't map the route.

I think Tim Cook also said during an interview that you can store music on the watch and listen to it while you are away from the phone, but he didn't say how much storage the watch has.

So basically my iPod nano, which I already have, is just as useful. Maybe more useful because it holds 16GB! Even comes with built in watch faces. Has a headphone jack too

Look I put the watch down to fashion, that's how it's marketed, and that's who it's targeting.

 

[Julien]

So basically my iPod nano, which I already have, is just as useful. Maybe more useful because it holds 16GB! Even comes with built in watch faces.

Look I put the watch down to fashion, that's how it's marketed, and that's who it's targeting.

The aWatch has a built in HR monitor.

The aWatch has several built in watch faces too.

 

[Night Spring]

I'll add my 2¢ worth of clarification too. In order to listen to music you must have BT headphones. There is no headphone jack.

So basically my iPod nano, which I already have, is just as useful. Maybe more useful because it holds 16GB! Even comes with built in watch faces. Has a headphone jack too

Did the square nano have bluetooth? If it did, that'd be perfect for me. I just got a pair of bluetooth headsets from Bose, and there's no turning back. Byebye headphone cords, I don't miss the endless tangles and uncoiling!

 

[Julien]

Did the square nano have bluetooth? If it did, that'd be perfect for me. I just got a pair of bluetooth headsets from Bose, and there's no turning back. Byebye headphone cords, I don't miss the endless tangles and uncoiling!

It has to be BT-LE (4.0), so no.

 

[MrXiro]

My argument is pure and simple, at least for me.
Its more money that I'm willing to spend on a smart watch that lacks GPS, and is not water resistant. Basically for my lifestyle, I have no need for it.

Fitbit Surge, which is due out in early 2015, on the other hand, is much better meeting my needs.

As for convincing you, I don't think I can, only you know what's best for you.

100% agree with this!

 

[JoEw]

Best argument 1st gen Apple products suck.

 

[Surferlife]

Best argument 1st gen Apple products suck.

I wouldn't say that they "suck". The 2nd generations are generally better, though.

Wasn't the 2nd gen iPad almost 50% thinner than the first gen?



Personally, I think the watch is trying to do too much. It's also priced too high for what it is.


I use a Microsoft band and it does everything I could ever expect out of a smart watch. It displays notifications, emails, messages, alerts, weather, health data etc, all for hundreds of dollars less than the watch

 

[Julien]

Best argument 1st gen Apple products suck.

Not true. In 2007 no one said the iPhone sucked. It was an absolute revolution in smart phones. The same can be said in 2010 for the iPad. It's only in hindsight when comparing to a later gen that you can make such an (subjective) accusation.

Do you say the Retina iMac "sucks"? You might in a year or two but not now.

 

[JerTheGeek]

I think I've made up my mind...

So I think I've decided. I used the Air 2 in an Apple Store last night, and while the big screen was nice, it didn't seem nice enough to not get the Watch. The Watch is just such a cool new device, and I really think it will be fun to buy a new first generation product and use it. I'm a big geek so this is a tremendous opportunity for me to use a brand new product from Apple, and this chance doesn't come very often. Who knows what the next new product category could be? It could be a long time before does a new product, so it makes sense to take this opportunity now, to buy and use and "beta test" a new product. The Air 2 is a nice upgrade, but not nice enough to make me miss out on this awesome opportunity to use a first gen Watch.

 

[burgman]

Guess I'm weird but I don't waste a lot time deciding about a product until, you know I can actually try it out. Lots of emotional opinions for a product that doesn't really exist in a final form, with one guy thinking about anal plugs a little to much.

 

[asleep]

1. The Samsungers will tease you for being a wall-hugger... "Hey, what time is it? Hang on, let me plug my watch in."

2. Resale value. These things will depreciate faster than a Yugo.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

Doubt that, Apple traditionally added features but holds the line on pricing, The original iPhone being an exception.

Adding the stipulation that the price of the iPhone actually remained the same. The price to the consumer was reduced because Apple began implementing the subsidized cost model.

So I agree. It's best to assume that price of the Apple Watch will remain firm for many years.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

Also, I've officially decided against the (first gen) Watch and purchased a FitBit Charge on black friday for $100.

These were my reasonings
1) I couldn't wear the A Watch to work, because of the built in microphone (yes, this is excusively a "me" problem)
2) I can get the charge now vs waiting 4+ months for A Watch
3) The whole "wait for second gen" argument which will allow for refinement to usability issues, battery issues, processor power, potentially add GPS, etc etc. Fitbit has had time to refine their products.
4) The Charge will display time, track steps, stairs, distance, sleep, display call notifications, and last 7-10 days on a charge, all for $250 cheaper than the A Watch
5) This leaves (as I see it) a few significant benefits for A Watch a) local music b) heart rate sensor c) apps
- 5a) If I'm going to go on a serious run, I will likely bring my phone regardless for GPS (nullifying the music storage capability)
- 5b) Heart rate sensor would be nice, but I don't see it as being a game changer. From what I've heard heart rate sensors on the wrist aren't that accurate (right now) and it gets even worse whenever you do physical activity
- 5c) I see the big A Watch advantage will be the app ecosystem (similar to iOS). Well there won't even be native apps for at least 6 months after launch, and it will likely take about a year for developers to really figure out what to do on a watch and built up that ecosystem

Anyway those are my thoughts. I'll most likely be getting the secon gen A Watch in about 18 months, but for now the fitbit will be my introduction to the wearable/fitness tracker world.

 

[JoEw]

Not true. In 2007 no one said the iPhone sucked. It was an absolute revolution in smart phones. The same can be said in 2010 for the iPad. It's only in hindsight when comparing to a later gen that you can make such an (subjective) accusation.

Do you say the Retina iMac "sucks"? You might in a year or two but not now.

First gen retina iMac is significantly underpowered for the display.
So was the 1st gen Retina MBP 13".
1st Gen MBA didn't have backlit keyboard.

The first iPhone did not have 3G.
The 1st iPad ran on single core a4 and didn't get support past IOS5, where the iPad 2 is on iOS8 and might get IOS9.

There is a lot of evidence that 1st gen Apple products while revolutioonary are generally not fully baked.

The Watch is no different.

Don't be a sucker, wait 1 year for a much better Apple device.