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Lifetime license sounds like a "one time fee" to me. Nice price change, btw!
That Fork Lift license says:"Lifetime license, includes 1 year of free updates." Lifetime - yes. But no updates after a year unless you pay again. Just like Path Finder. One time fee if you never need or want updates after year. But effectively a subscription if you want ongoing updates.

Compare with Chronosync (just taking a very different example), about 10 years ago I paid for a Lifetime License, and that has included free updates ever since.
 
Compare with Chronosync (just taking a very different example), about 10 years ago I paid for a Lifetime License, and that has included free updates ever since.
I have a lifetime license for Chronosync. I don't understand how they survive. They can't be funding all their improvements by lifetime licenses bought by new purchasers.

I don't have the matter-of-principle objection to subscriptions that many do. I assess each on its own merits for me, and have many subs. I think the Path Finder/Forklift model is the right one...you can stop paying any time and then use the version you have for ever. This is how magazine subs work. You keep all the issues you have received up to point of stopping the sub. This is unlike Adobe where when you stop the sub you can't use any version any more (like giving all the magazine back!)
 
Speaking of path finder, looks like they are offering a yearly license as an alternative to the subscription model (which they still offer).

The difference is once you buy the license, you get updates for one year, if you let it expire you can still use the app, you just can't update it. I a license for powershell studio, and it operates the same way. Pay for one year and I can keep using it forever, just not update it.

 
I've used PathFinder for years. It's had it's ups and downs, but has been good overall. I still do many things in Finder, but Pathfinder adds some nice functions like batch renaming that would be more tedious otherwise.
PathFinder was a complete godsend in the early days of the macOS. But so many of the features it trail-blazed came to the Finder over the years (like... the path bar... its namesake feature), and at the same time it started getting buggier. So buggy I had to give it up. It's probably been extensively updated since I used it, maybe it's better now.
 
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Speaking of path finder, looks like they are offering a yearly license as an alternative to the subscription model (which they still offer).

The difference is once you buy the license, you get updates for one year, if you let it expire you can still use the app, you just can't update it. I a license for powershell studio, and it operates the same way. Pay for one year and I can keep using it forever, just not update it.


I had thought I understood their offerings. Based on your post and a sanity check on my thinking, I realize that I don't.

All of their offerings, three labeled "Subscription" and one labeled "License", say "Allows you to run older builds after expiration". Does that mean you can continue to run the build you were using at the time of expiration? If that were the case, then they all are variations of the same deal, with different prices depending on level of commitment.

My thinking fails a simple sanity check. I could subscribe to the $2.95/month offer and cancel after one month. Then I'd be able to forever run older versions. Since that's insane, I guess I don't understand what they're selling.
 
The difference is once you buy the license, you get updates for one year, if you let it expire you can still use the app, you just can't update it.

Isn't this the classic model, just worded differently? Up until the subscription model you bought the app. When it was updated you could get upgrade pricing. The only difference seems to me is the trigger - when an update occurs, maybe after several years, vs a 12 month period from date of purchase.
 
Isn't this the classic model, just worded differently?
I'm not sure, as I forget what they did prior. If it was one license for one version (with minor updates), then it did change. If it allowed all updates minor and major within one year then its the same.
 
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PathFinder was a complete godsend in the early days of the macOS. But so many of the features it trail-blazed came to the Finder over the years (like... the path bar... its namesake feature), and at the same time it started getting buggier. So buggy I had to give it up. It's probably been extensively updated since I used it, maybe it's better now.
I still use it daily, but it's been slow for a long time. Especially with directories with over 1000 items.
 
use it daily too - what bother me most is the failure to refresh directories (sometimes) and showing files that don't existe anymore or not showing new ones. Talked to support - they could reproduce but never found a fix. Weird as FL doesn't have those problems. Has others though. Really missing my TC commander
 
they could reproduce but never found a fix
That's the problem with them. It was their problem before, and it's the main problem now. They don't want to re-code or work around the whole structure to find and replace the odds even if they know using Kaleidoscope and Versions will help them find all the issues to be fixed. Basically, they don't want to spend that time. I will be switching to FL soon. I'm sad because I've been using PF since they debuted. I don't even know how to use a Mac without it.
 
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FYI, Apple just changed things up with new cloud storage APIs about a year ago and at least Forklift has not caught up to work with the current version of Box or Dropbox in the way the Finder can. I wouldn't be surprised if there are others in the same situation.
 
That's the problem with them. It was their problem before, and it's the main problem now. They don't want to re-code or work around the whole structure to find and replace the odds even if they know using Kaleidoscope and Versions will help them find all the issues to be fixed. Basically, they don't want to spend that time. I will be switching to FL soon. I'm sad because I've been using PF since they debuted. I don't even know how to use a Mac without it.
They Even abandoned a Beta testing Forum without any notice. Seems There is only one coder
 
Purchased QSpace Pro yesterday.

Thoughts: App seems fine. But what an awful way of getting the Pro version. I mean what the actual F.
Did only cost me 9 danish kroner. which is $1.99 in American Apple Store lingo I'm guessing. There's a rather large discount on QSpace Pro. From $29.99 to $7.99.

The Danish Mac App Store listed the QSpace Pro price as 9,00 dkr - and that was neat.

The binding procedure is absolute dog?

I finally managed to find out that I needed to use the same code, sent to me via e-mail(which in itself is a terrible way to engage users for the purpose of an upgrade) for both apps.

As always, I might be doing this all wrong. QSpace from Mac App Store was Pro after the upgrade. I wasn't certain that I actually got the Pro version, so I went ahead with the binding.

My whole issue with this QSpace is that;
  1. The website itself is in a serif font - I mean, who does that? Oh yeah, The Path Finder developers does that in the registration window for Path Finder 10 for a brief moment until fonts are also downloaded or w/e
  2. there's no international payment option for QSpace Pro.. then why even bother translating the application to English if you're catering to the Chinese market. Just leave the app as a Chinese novelty.
  3. I love that the author now has my App Store e-mail. I don't think they would have gotten that through only a purchase on the Mac App Store(perhaps because of privacy settings)
  4. QSpace Pro will be just another application in my arsenal - I love the folder preview - similar to that of Live folders in Windows 7. If you know what I mean, wink wink.

Lastly, I am well aware of the fact that I did not have to download or use QSpace Pro and I'd like to subsequent comments steer clear of this and focus on my idiot approach on binding or some of my other talking points.
I find that qspace for me is the best because of the shelf and layout options. It doesnt feel native at all, but it is being updating pretty consistently. I realize that others have the shelf feature but I have yet to use another file manager with more than a dual pane manager (I haven’t tried pathfinder).

If Apple would just add the shelf and layout options plus folder sync I wouldn’t need anything else. I can always hope. Finder has been ignored for a while.
 
I find that qspace for me is the best because of the shelf and layout options. It doesnt feel native at all, but it is being updating pretty consistently. I realize that others have the shelf feature but I have yet to use another file manager with more than a dual pane manager (I haven’t tried pathfinder).

If Apple would just add the shelf and layout options plus folder sync I wouldn’t need anything else. I can always hope. Finder has been ignored for a while.
q space doesn't even read my iCloud Folder correctly :-(( so I run away from it
 
I find that qspace for me is the best because of the shelf and layout options. It doesnt feel native at all, but it is being updating pretty consistently. I realize that others have the shelf feature but I have yet to use another file manager with more than a dual pane manager (I haven’t tried pathfinder).

If Apple would just add the shelf and layout options plus folder sync I wouldn’t need anything else. I can always hope. Finder has been ignored for a while.
Apple don't want to scare regular users. That is why the OS is looking more and more to iOS, that means a sophysticated macOS is never comming.
 
I had so many issues with qspace that I gave up on it and went back to Forklft. I was so difficult to use too. I wanted a dual window sey up with multiple tabs of directories in each and seemed not to be able to achieve that.
 
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