When 1Password went to a subscription model, I switched to LastPass.
I am a satisfied user of their free service level.
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I use Bitwarden and 1Password. Both have worked well for me. Always have a backup manager program.
Keychain for me. I used to use last pass but I just don't feel like I need anything Keychain doesn't offer.
Amen.
mSecure, Keychain, and a bi-weekly CSV export from mSecure and import into a password protected spreadsheet (which gets copied and another level of encryption before copying to three different cloud accounts).
The way I see it, someone would have to steal the laptop, then somehow hack past the login, then hack again into the password manager. I haven’t heard of that happening, but I think if it’s doable, people that skilled would be much more likely to target a company with a large database of accounts, rather than one random person.
Of course, if they somehow got access to your login credentials, it would be easy to see all your saved passwords, but in that case it wouldn’t matter which password service you went with.
Plus if a device is ever stolen, there’s always the option to change all your passwords for peace of mind, which is technically supposed to be regularly done anyway.
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I memorize one algorithm (that changes every so often) that gives me the password for every site. Does that count as a backup?
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Keepass stores everything in it's own file. You can keep it on your PC (or Mac, I guess) or in DropBox and you just point the application to where the file is to open it.
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- KeePass is portable: it can be carried on an USB stick and runs on Windows systems without being installed.
- Installer packages are available, too, for the ones who like to have shortcuts in their Windows start menu and on the desktop.
- KeePass doesn't store anything on your system. The program doesn't create any new registry keys and it doesn't create any initialization files (INI) in your Windows directory. Deleting the KeePass directory (in case you downloaded the binary ZIP package) or using the uninstaller (in case you downloaded the installer package) leaves no trace of KeePass on your system.
- Ports for other systems like Android, iOS, etc. are available. See the downloads page.
- [2.x] Accessibility: KeePass 2.x features an advanced option that explicitly optimizes the user interface for screen readers.
Mac users should be looking at KeePassXC, which, unlike 2.x or KeePassX, is being actively maintained.
Local, cross--platform, standard data format, open-source, multiple clients, and free.
By default, the login unlocks Keychain, but you can change that so Keychain requires its own, separate password. That would address the scenario you mentioned.
You should go back to 1password, I am extremely happy customer and they still do sell stand alone version. If people like me and you continue to buy the non-subscription model we can convince them to keep offering it.
I forgot how to do it, but I think if you download it from the Mac App Store after installation there is an option to buy a license.
I will consider this. At the time I switched from 1 Password, it would have been due to Catalina if I remember correctly. I wanted the upgrade price, but no subscription. I would not have switched if I could have figured a way to accomplish this. Any ideas, anyone?
Native keychain does it for me. Literally all the features from 3rd party password managers are available by default.
1. Automatic strong password suggestions.
2. Synced via iCloud.
3. Available on all Apple devices.
4. Security on point.
If one is in the Apple ecosystem there’s no need to use any other service unless they use windows / android devices as well.
1. Automatic strong password suggestions.
2. Synced via iCloud.
3. Available on all Apple devices.
4. Security on point.
If one is in the Apple ecosystem there’s no need to use any other service unless they use windows / android devices as well.
The Mac App Store version doesn't support buying a license but the one from their website does.
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If Mac only, sure, since Keychain has secure notes (and yes, can use Notes as well for something like that).
But if going iOS as well, and since current iCloud Keychain does not support notes, only websites, things like wifi passwords, credit card info, driver's license, key codes, etc are basically a no-go with Keychain. Add in what @BasicGreatGuy said about having a backup, well worth the effort/spend to have a password manager, imo.
I hate subscription too but I keep going back to 1password because it’s really very easy to use on my apple devices and can sync with Windows too although their windows app is not as good. Also there seems to be more apps that can login with 1password than Enpass when I tried it last yr. This was when I was looking for other password apps.
I bought a gift card of $125 for $99 for 1password at their site last yr and hopefully it will last at least 4 yrs of subscription for personal use. After that, maybe there will be a better non subscription app for passwords. Or a keychain app from Apple would be great! For now, sticking to 1password
You can also buy a 1password stand-alone app. Maybe email their support team for a link coz it’s hard to find in their site.
I bought a gift card of $125 for $99 for 1password at their site last yr and hopefully it will last at least 4 yrs of subscription for personal use. After that, maybe there will be a better non subscription app for passwords. Or a keychain app from Apple would be great! For now, sticking to 1password
You can also buy a 1password stand-alone app. Maybe email their support team for a link coz it’s hard to find in their site.
Yes absolutely. From the list of accounts/passwords, you can also delete (or "unlink") specific accounts that you no longer want Keychain to remember.
Went? You mean added. You can still get the stand alone.
Accessing the keychain requires entering your computer login password a second time (not sure if you can change the keychain password to something different). So if they somehow get your actual password, sure, they have complete unfettered access. But hacking is what people do when they don’t have the password, which is what someone who steals your laptop would have to do. I’m no computer security expert, but I think it’s like having a house and a safe inside your house. Even if they both use the same key, a normal burglar (hacker) breaks into the house through a vulnerable door or window, not by stealing your key (that would be called phishing). So the burglar will have a whole new challenge when they arrive at your safe.
Could someone break into both? Sure, anything is possible, but Apple houses and safes are very secure, and are constantly updating. No normal thief is going to be able to do this, and no super-skilled thief is going to want to for a lone random victim.
Are you using Dropbox free? Because if so you are limited to just three connections. It might thus not be Enpass acting up, it might be Dropbox limiting access to your password safe because you've exceeded the number of devices allowed to connect to your Dropbox.
Can you, actually? I just downloaded 7.4.3 ("1Password-7.4.3.pkg") from their website and installed it. When I go to "Account > Manage Subscription" it only allows "Monthly, $2.99 billed annually" or "Monthly, $3.99 billed monthly". I don't see anywhere else in the app to buy a license, only that one spot. If I go to "Preferences - Accounts - Your 1Password account is in Trial mode" and click on that, it again directs me only to the monthly purchase.
I have absolutely zero interest in buying a crazy expensive subscription, but my old license is no longer valid since I'm on Catalina now and haven't updated in years. My once-per-5-years update would make 1Password cost like... $200 for a password manager, which is way more than the utility I personally get out of it. I'd love to keep using 1Password and not switch to one of the others suggested here, but I cannot figure out a way to buy a standalone license, and the instructions from their website from more than a year ago don't seem to be valid anymore.
There was a link to the license option under the link for trial options. See here for details. Not sure if they removed it or not.
I'm running 7.4.3 on Catalina with a standalone license.
The option to buy the standalone version is still there. They don't make it easy to find, but on the screen where it seems like you need to subscribe, you should see text that says, "Need a license? We have those too..." Click on the appropriate spot, and you'll get the screen to fill in your info.
Not sure I'm weighing in too late but I've used Dashlane, Enpass, 1Password, and most recently LastPass (as well as Keychain, obviously) over the years.
While Keychain is great and I'd stick with that exclusively if I could, the seamless experience breaks down once you use anything but Safari, which is way to limited for my needs. LastPass is now my main password manager, with Keychain as a backup. Unlike Enpass, 1Password, and others, it doesn't require any payment to sync across devices (at least if it's just my iPhone and Mac), and unlike Keychain it appears to work pretty flawlessly across all my software. It gets my full recommendation.
While Keychain is great and I'd stick with that exclusively if I could, the seamless experience breaks down once you use anything but Safari, which is way to limited for my needs. LastPass is now my main password manager, with Keychain as a backup. Unlike Enpass, 1Password, and others, it doesn't require any payment to sync across devices (at least if it's just my iPhone and Mac), and unlike Keychain it appears to work pretty flawlessly across all my software. It gets my full recommendation.
