Best set up for Photo editing?

[Apple fanboy]

Which Eizo display you have in mind that is better for the fraction of the cost?
Seriously wondering why there is no other aluminium monitor except for Apple. Strange. Plastic outgases and looks bad.

ColorEdge CG319X Hardware Calibration LCD Monitor | EIZO

EIZO is a visual technology company that manufactures high-end monitors and display solutions for business, graphics, home entertainment, healthcare, maritime, security/surveillance, ATC and defense/aerospace.

www.eizoglobal.com

Stand is included in the price!

 

[Kulfon]

ColorEdge CG319X Hardware Calibration LCD Monitor | EIZO

EIZO is a visual technology company that manufactures high-end monitors and display solutions for business, graphics, home entertainment, healthcare, maritime, security/surveillance, ATC and defense/aerospace.

www.eizoglobal.com

Stand is included in the price!

5800$. You call it fraction of the cost?
And it is seriously ugly!
I know Eizo are good if one is able to accept the way they look. But I think Apple is 6K and this one is 4K

 

[Kulfon]

Btw, anyone can say anything about this one?

ASUS ProArt PA32UC-K 4K HDR

Looks good. How does it compare to Benq?

 

[Apple fanboy]

5800$. You call it fraction of the cost?
And it is seriously ugly!
I know Eizo are good if one is able to accept the way they look. But I think Apple is 6K and this one is 4K

I didn't say it was cheap. But 2/3rds is better.
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Btw, anyone can say anything about this one?

ASUS ProArt PA32UC-K 4K HDR

Looks good. How does it compare to Benq?

Never seen one I'm afraid. But I have a BenQ and have seen plenty of those and Eizo's through work.

 

[Kulfon]

Found this review:

 

[Kulfon]

I didn't say it was cheap. But 2/3rds is better.
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Not arguing with you, but just want to be precise. You said fraction of the cost, which means small % of the cost. The cost more or less the same. 5-6K for Apple and 5800 for Eizo. Yes, there is the stupid stand thing.
Not an expert in monitors, never worked with any of these two, so will not pretend I know it, but at least on paper Apple looks like a better one. Both are great, I am sure. I would get Eizo if I could somehow get through how it looks and the fact it is all plastic.

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Maybe Apple Pro display is not that expensive

 

[kenoh]

Which Eizo display you have in mind that is better for the fraction of the cost?
Seriously wondering why there is no other aluminium monitor except for Apple. Strange. Plastic outgases and looks bad.

We install Eizo monitors for greyscale high contrast lossless medical diagnostic imaging (CT, MRI, x-Rays). Eizo are the best at the display itself choosing to scrimp on the casing.

The Apple XDR monitor is just silly IMHO but as I said earlier I am not that strict on colour management.

Interesting bit of Trivia, speaking to ILM and DreamWorks in the past, they top out at 24" displays - they claim that that is the ideal size for representing the human vision for their work. They would never buy anything bigger.

 

[kenoh]

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Maybe Apple Pro display is not that expensive

$5K for a dell monitor!?!?! behave! lol...

 

[Kulfon]

Steve Jobs was saying that iPhone 4 size was ideal for people and that they will never make a bigger phone. Remember?

Btw, what do you mean by Apple Pro fisplay being “just silly”?

We install Eizo monitors for greyscale high contrast lossless medical diagnostic imaging (CT, MRI, x-Rays). Eizo are the best at the display itself choosing to scrimp on the casing.

The Apple XDR monitor is just silly IMHO but as I said earlier I am not that strict on colour management.

Interesting bit of Trivia, speaking to ILM and DreamWorks in the past, they top out at 24" displays - they claim that that is the ideal size for representing the human vision for their work. They would never buy anything bigger.

 

[kenoh]

Steve Jobs was saying that iPhone 4 size was ideal for people and that they will never make a bigger phone. Remember?

Btw, what do you mean by Apple Pro fisplay being “just silly”?

Yep I remember... he also said if you see a stylus, they failed... Apple pencil anyone?
The Pro display is just a crazy price for something they will find a way to make obsolete in a couple of years to make you have to buy a new one. Like the last pro displays. Also, the screen is amazing yes but $5k amazing? no... Just my opinion, YMMV.

 

[Kulfon]

The way I see it - there is no other product to compete that has it all for the price:
1. 6K display quality
2. Built materials
3. Product desing

You will find monitors that can compete in one of the 3 areas for the price, but not all 3.

Yep I remember... he also said if you see a stylus, they failed... Apple pencil anyone?
The Pro display is just a crazy price for something they will find a way to make obsolete in a couple of years to make you have to buy a new one. Like the last pro displays. Also, the screen is amazing yes but $5k amazing? no... Just my opinion, YMMV.

 

[r.harris1]

The way I see it - there is no other product to compete that has it all for the price:
1. 6K display quality
2. Built materials
3. Product desing

You will find monitors that can compete in one of the 3 areas for the price, but not all 3.

For photography, and because I print, my own priorities are (in no particular order)
* Panel image quality
* Color fidelity
* Color management capabilities
* Resolution / pixel density balance to edit images (to a degree, very subjective)
* Flexibility and options (a component of "Product design") - so connections, controls, things that help workflow, etc

Your three qualities listed above indeed only point to an XDR and if those are part of your "must-have" priorities, get that wallet out!

The XDR is indeed a lovely design (obviously very subjective), large screen, amazing contrast ratio for HDR, nice in-built color profiles and while the accounts are somewhat mixed, a possible "cheap" reference monitor. For color managed workflows, it gets a little murkier. With recent firmware you can do customized luminance and white-point tuning. For third-party devices and calibration, they recommend a spectroradiometer which is fairly high-end and expensive kit, but they say it's owing to things like peak brightness capabilities, most other standard tools probably wouldn't be as useful. I'd expect a newer i1pro 3 device could work, but regardless, you'd want to tack on some additional cash (>$1k easy) if managing the color at that level is important.

It's 6k, but obviously the day-day display resolution is going to be half that (though you can change as needed). It's less flexible than I'd like with controllability, but hey, that's Apple design ethos. It obviously only works with modern Macs, at least for now and that means one with a dedicated GPU, so if you go Mac mini, you will need an eGPU. I guess unofficially (and not supported by Apple), older Macs can drive this monitor to some degree but not sure of the implications.

 

[Kulfon]

Those would be my priorities too. I just happen to love aluminium design and hate plastic in general
Based on the below, what would be your top 3 monitors?

For photography, and because I print, my own priorities are (in no particular order)
* Panel image quality
* Color fidelity
* Color management capabilities
* Resolution / pixel density balance to edit images (to a degree, very subjective)
* Flexibility and options (a component of "Product design") - so connections, controls, things that help workflow, etc

Your three qualities listed above indeed only point to an XDR and if those are part of your "must-have" priorities, get that wallet out!

The XDR is indeed a lovely design (obviously very subjective), large screen, amazing contrast ratio for HDR, nice in-built color profiles and while the accounts are somewhat mixed, a possible "cheap" reference monitor. For color managed workflows, it gets a little murkier. With recent firmware you can do customized luminance and white-point tuning. For third-party devices and calibration, they recommend a spectroradiometer which is fairly high-end and expensive kit, but they say it's owing to things like peak brightness capabilities, most other standard tools probably wouldn't be as useful. I'd expect a newer i1pro 3 device could work, but regardless, you'd want to tack on some additional cash (>$1k easy) if managing the color at that level is important.

It's 6k, but obviously the day-day display resolution is going to be half that (though you can change as needed). It's less flexible than I'd like with controllability, but hey, that's Apple design ethos. It obviously only works with modern Macs, at least for now and that means one with a dedicated GPU, so if you go Mac mini, you will need an eGPU. I guess unofficially (and not supported by Apple), older Macs can drive this monitor to some degree but not sure of the implications.

 

[r.harris1]

Those would be my priorities too. I just happen to love aluminium design and hate plastic in general
Based on the below, what would be your top 3 monitors?

Right now, they'd be:

(1) Eizo cg319x
(2) Eizo cg279x
(3) BenQ SW321C

I've worked with (1) and (2) in relation to my day job - they're fantastic working machines, less so in the way of aesthetics. For (3) a photographer friend has one and really likes it. I've not seen it in his studio because of the pando but I take his word. Again, not aesthetically astonishing. One thing I like about (2) and (3) is USB C connectivity as an option.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Those would be my priorities too. I just happen to love aluminium design and hate plastic in general
Based on the below, what would be your top 3 monitors?

For me the panel is what matters and what your eye spends its time looking at. The casing is nice on those Apple displays, but not worth the trade off in my opinion.
We put high end screens and manage colour for a lot of top companies in Europe. I can tell you we have put no Apple displays in for 10+ years. If you want accurate colour chose an Eizo or BenQ. If you want something shiny and aluminium to look pretty, choose an iMac.

 

[Kulfon]

May I ask a qiestion? eizo I cannot stand and will not be able to get over it old plastic design. Looks like other companies move to thinner bezels, just not Eizo.
I was checking Asus Pro Art, Dell and Benq. Of these 3 I think BenQ is the best for photographers. Their 32 is an older design (think bezels) and 27 is from mid 2019? Any idea if they might update their 32 display in the same spirit as 27?

For me the panel is what matters and what your eye spends its time looking at. The casing is nice on those Apple displays, but not worth the trade off in my opinion.
We put high end screens and manage colour for a lot of top companies in Europe. I can tell you we have put no Apple displays in for 10+ years. If you want accurate colour chose an Eizo or BenQ. If you want something shiny and aluminium to look pretty, choose an iMac.

 

[cdcastillo]

...I want to have a 27 or 32 inch monitor that will be stellar for the next 5-6 years and will be perfect for photo editing...

In the wire cutter they praise the dell you selected for nearly perfect color calibration/representation.

 

[Apple fanboy]

May I ask a qiestion? eizo I cannot stand and will not be able to get over it old plastic design. Looks like other companies move to thinner bezels, just not Eizo.
I was checking Asus Pro Art, Dell and Benq. Of these 3 I think BenQ is the best for photographers. Their 32 is an older design (think bezels) and 27 is from mid 2019? Any idea if they might update their 32 display in the same spirit as 27?

The SW321C was only recently updated, so nothing for 12 months plus I’d imagine.

The Eizo has a wider bezel as there is colorimeter built into it.

 

[Kulfon]

Seriously? i thought it was okder design vs 27 inch.
So which top 3 would be your choice for photography?

The SW321C was only recently updated, so nothing for 12 months plus I’d imagine.

The Eizo has a wider bezel as there is colorimeter built into it.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Seriously? i thought it was okder design vs 27 inch.
So which top 3 would be your choice for photography?

The SW320 was replaced last year with the SW321.

I can only comment on BenQ and Eizo screens. Personally I find the 27" size to be right for me. I have a pair of SW271's I use. I have also used the CG277 (now replaced by the CG279X) from Eizo. All very good quality for colour. Personally I don't need a built in calibrator as I have an X-Rite i1 Display Pro.

 

[Kulfon]

Thanks. Just checked CG279X. It is not 4K, right? I also think I am leaning towards 27 inch, but I would love to have 4k. Is there anything from Eizo that is 27 inch, 4K with usb-C and thunderbolt 3? Would you know?

The SW320 was replaced last year with the SW321.

I can only comment on BenQ and Eizo screens. Personally I find the 27" size to be right for me. I have a pair of SW271's I use. I have also used the CG277 (now replaced by the CG279X) from Eizo. All very good quality for colour. Personally I don't need a built in calibrator as I have an X-Rite i1 Display Pro.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Thanks. Just checked CG279X. It is not 4K, right? I also think I am leaning towards 27 inch, but I would love to have 4k. Is there anything from Eizo that is 27 inch, 4K with usb-C and thunderbolt 3? Would you know?

CS2740 came out this year.

ColorEdge CS2740 | EIZO

EIZO is a visual technology company that manufactures high-end monitors and display solutions for business, graphics, home entertainment, healthcare, maritime, security/surveillance, ATC and defense/aerospace.

www.eizoglobal.com

If they follow their standard pattern the CG version will be out by March next year. The difference between the CS and the CG being the built in colorimeter hood and the price! Depending on where you live there may also be a warranty difference.

 

[Kulfon]

I know nothing about monitors (saying with full humility). I am using my 2015 MBP retina for photo editing and it works fine, but I would love to have a better screen.
This is what I do, more or less (www.dylikowski.com).

So things like CG and CS is like Chinese to me
So what 4K monitor would you recommend, 27 inch? If I have to wait till March, I can easily do that.

CS2740 came out this year.

ColorEdge CS2740 | EIZO

EIZO is a visual technology company that manufactures high-end monitors and display solutions for business, graphics, home entertainment, healthcare, maritime, security/surveillance, ATC and defense/aerospace.

www.eizoglobal.com

If they follow their standard pattern the CG version will be out by March next year. The difference between the CS and the CG being the built in colorimeter hood and the price! Depending on where you live there may also be a warranty difference.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I know nothing about monitors (saying with full humility). I am using my 2015 MBP retina for photo editing and it works fine, but I would love to have a better screen.
This is what I do, more or less (www.dylikowski.com).

So things like CG and CS is like Chinese to me
So what 4K monitor would you recommend, 27 inch? If I have to wait till March, I can easily do that.

BenQ SW271 is what I'm using now. I'd have no trouble recommending one. Where are you based?

BTW you have some beautiful photos.

 

[Kulfon]

I live in Poland. What is this CG vs CS thing? What do you expect to be released in March and...how do you compare Benq to Eizo?

specifically BenQ SW271 Vs CS2740?