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Yeah, kinda don't understand the pricing.

the groundhog day effect:
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Oh my, it really is $220 as of today:
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/2666DDR4S32P/

Free shipping. Oh boy. Very attractive. Must resist.


Oooh, and the memory toolkit with proper screw drivers including the TS6 is only $8

Crucial memory has been about this price for ages. Nothing special about OWC’s product (other than it being too expensive till now). Now is what should have been the regular price.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC4-...549304716&sr=8-1&keywords=CT2K8G4SFS8266&th=1
 
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Crucial memory has been about this price for ages. Nothing special about OWC’s product (other than it being too expensive till now). Now is what should have been the regular price.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC4-...549304716&sr=8-1&keywords=CT2K8G4SFS8266&th=1
Actually crucial's site is $229 and has been for a while, a few dollars more than amazon and I'm not sure about their return policy or how easy it is. On amazon, if it doesn't work it is free and easy with Prime (which we have).

Just found that OWC will give you $25 for the OEM 8 gb on the 2018 Mac mini. Not sure if you have to pay to ship your memory to them or if they give you a UPS label. Anyone done this successfully?
 
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Wonder why Crucial hasn't come out with 32gb chips for the new Mini.
 
I literally added the crucial brand 32GB on Amazon to my wish list today, maybe 2 hours ago. It's already dropped 5% in price, down to $212.99.
 
I literally added the crucial brand 32GB on Amazon to my wish list today, maybe 2 hours ago. It's already dropped 5% in price, down to $212.99.
Yep, just noticed that. My guess is that the Amazon price will eventually drop to the Newegg price under $200. I'm not in a hurry so I'll just wait it out.
 
I don't have the Mac Mini yet, but once my tax returns come in, I'll likely grab it by the end of the month. Then I'll grab the RAM ASAP.
 
I wonder how much the 32GB kit will cost by summer... I’m seeing price reductions every single week.
 
I may be pulling the trigger on a Mini in the next day or so, has anyone gotten any additional clarification on the warranty with a user RAM upgrade (I realize things can be returned to "warranty spec")?

Are we still assuming "it depends"? Mostly this affects my decision about AC+ ...

I guess this (in bold):

This Warranty does not apply: (a) to protective coatings that are designed to diminish over time or batteries, unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (b) to cosmetic damage, including but not limited to scratches, dents and broken plastic on ports unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (c) to damage caused by use with a third party component or product that does not meet the Apple Product’s specifications (Apple Product specifications are available at www.apple.com under the technical specifications for each product and also available in stores); (d) to damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, fire, liquid contact, earthquake or other external cause; (e) to damage caused by operating the Apple Product outside Apple’s published guidelines; (f) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (“AASP”); (g) to an Apple Product that has been modified to alter functionality or capability without the written permission of Apple; (h) to defects caused by normal wear and tear or otherwise due to the normal aging of the Apple Product; (i) if any serial number has been removed or defaced from the Apple Product; or (j) if Apple receives information from relevant public authorities that the product has been stolen or if you are unable to deactivate passcode-enabled or other security measures designed to prevent unauthorized access to the Apple Product, and you cannot prove in any way that you are the authorized user of the product (eg. by presenting proof of purchase).

Is the "did you damage X/Y/Z during the RAM upgrade". Clearly, you break something during the install, that wouldn't be covered, however, an upgraded machine goes pear shaped 6 months later, ex:, a component fails like the storage sub-system, will UUR factor in?
 
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OWC is still a little high on the 32GB at $249. But they do offer trade in credit for Apple ram, 2 4gb sticks at $25 and 2 8gb sticks at $70 and so on. Curious how low will they go
 
I may be pulling the trigger on a Mini in the next day or so, has anyone gotten any additional clarification on the warranty with a user RAM upgrade (I realize things can be returned to "warranty spec")?

Are we still assuming "it depends"? Mostly this affects my decision about AC+ ...

I guess this (in bold):



Is the "did you damage X/Y/Z during the RAM upgrade". Clearly, you break something during the install, that wouldn't be covered, however, an upgraded machine goes pear shaped 6 months later, ex:, a component fails like the storage sub-system, will UUR factor in?
Since Apple has not officially released a statement on the matter of user RAM upgrade, (that I am aware of) it is my opinion, that performing said action at this point in time would void the warranty as written. Whether Apple were to hold an individual liable under the warranty for said work at all times, or at all, is another matter, as Apple often works on a case by case basis.
 
Since Apple has not officially released a statement on the matter of user RAM upgrade, (that I am aware of) it is my opinion, that performing said action at this point in time would void the warranty as written. Whether Apple were to hold an individual liable under the warranty for said work at all times, or at all, is another matter, as Apple often works on a case by case basis.

Right, though I think we shouldn't use "void", even in their legal language it's not unlike the MM Act for cars, i.e., part/action must be correlated to the failure (ex: aftermarket wheels wouldn't prevent warranty work on the AC ...)

That being said, it's probably academic, since there's not really a lot of isolated components ...
 
I wonder if the faster latency makes any difference. Could someone with 32GB CL19 (default) latency post their geekbench memory score?
It's likely to improve GB scores but unlikely to be noticeable with the vast majority of applications.
 
Hmm ...

So I let the i7/8/512 [refurb] slip through my hands, just couldn't get my head around the RAM consideration, but I __ think__ I might wind up just going with a factory 32GB.

If you would allow me to ramble ... :D

I'm totally comfortable with the swap, I did multiple drive and RAM swaps in my two 2012 Minis and older MBPs, built machines, do all sorts of electronics tinkering,fix electronics around the house to save a buck (my best fix: $3K+ fridge, OOW, logic board ~$400, wind up with $10 in caps from Mouser as the solution :D)

Anyway, one of my big I-need-a-new-machine motivators is having a computer under warranty. My machine is my primary work tool, I generally don't like surprises like suddenly needing a $900+ main board, I also believe there's a some priority for machines under warranty (to the point of Apple just swapping them as needed). For a Mini, it's only $99, however, that might wind up being a waste if you: a) have a catastrophic failure and Apple decides it's a result of the RAM install (even months later ...), or b) you decide to CYA, and the second time you swap RAM (back to the OEM parts), you wind up doing something like snapping off an antenna connector (or even the 3rd swap back to your 32GB upgrade).

I kind of "ran the numbers" and assuming I can pick up a i7/32/512 for the same discount percent as the 8GB machine, the latter + RAM vs. machine ready to go OOTO, puts me at around $300 more, but then over a known, "no issue" warranty period of 3 years? I believe that's a trivial additional cost for my piece of mind. I suppose if I DIY'ed my RAM, I might even skip the AC, though it's nice to have.

All that being said, I may still wind up with an 8GG model, do my own RAM, skip AC, my natural DIY-ness may get the best of me, hahahaha :D
 
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Hmm ...

So I let the i7/8/512 [refurb] slip through my hands, just couldn't get my head around the RAM consideration, but I __ think__ I might wind up just going with a factory 32GB.

If you would allow me to ramble ... :D

I'm totally comfortable with the swap, I did multiple drive and RAM swaps in my two 2012 Minis and older MBPs, built machines, do all sorts of electronics tinkering,fix electronics around the house to save a buck (my best fix: $3K+ fridge, OOW, logic board ~$400, wind up with $10 in caps from Mouser as the solution :D)

Anyway, one of my big I-need-a-new-machine motivators is having a computer under warranty. My machine is my primary work tool, I generally don't like surprises like suddenly needing a $900+ main board, I also believe there's a some priority for machines under warranty (to the point of Apple just swapping them as needed). For a Mini, it's only $99, however, that might wind up being a waste if you: a) have a catastrophic failure and Apple decides it's a result of the RAM install (even months later ...), or b) you decide to CYA, and the second time you swap RAM (back to the OEM parts), you wind up doing something like snapping off an antenna connector (or even the 3rd swap back to your 32GB upgrade).

I kind of "ran the numbers" and assuming I can pick up a i7/32/512 for the same discount percent as the 8GB machine, the latter + RAM vs. machine ready to go OOTO, puts me at around $300 more, but then over a known, "no issue" warranty period of 3 years? I believe that's a trivial additional cost for my piece of mind. I suppose if I DIY'ed my RAM, I might even skip the AC, though it's nice to have.

All that being said, I may still wind up with an 8GG model, do my own RAM, skip AC, my natural DIY-ness may get the best of me, hahahaha :D


I understand the thought process of DIY or not. Watching the tear down a few times and reading a few failed posters makes me skeptical if I should.

I ended up ordering 16GB from Apple and a Sonnet 350 break away bundle with RX580 8GB card. My thought process was that the eGPU should ease usage on the Ram driving the 4k monitor and 16GB should be pretty good for this setup.
 
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Just got home from the Apple Store. Didn't make a purchase, yet, but I did ask the staff the question. If a user, such as myself, does a RAM upgrade, would it void the warranty? The employee I asked was unsure, so he went and asked 2 other employees. They all said no, it would not void the warranty. However, that's with the user doing it knowing what to do. If you break anything, it's of course on you.

This question was the thing hesitating me from buying the Mac Mini with nobody seemingly to know the answer. Although I did see a post somewhere with supposed screenshots of a text chat with an Apple staff that said it does void the warranty. Myself going to an Apple Store to ask in person was proof enough for me.

Now to wait until tomorrow, when I get paid. Have the money, but just want the extra money in my account anyway.
 
Just got home from the Apple Store. Didn't make a purchase, yet, but I did ask the staff the question. If a user, such as myself, does a RAM upgrade, would it void the warranty? The employee I asked was unsure, so he went and asked 2 other employees. They all said no, it would not void the warranty. However, that's with the user doing it knowing what to do. If you break anything, it's of course on you.

This question was the thing hesitating me from buying the Mac Mini with nobody seemingly to know the answer. Although I did see a post somewhere with supposed screenshots of a text chat with an Apple staff that said it does void the warranty. Myself going to an Apple Store to ask in person was proof enough for me.

Now to wait until tomorrow, when I get paid. Have the money, but just want the extra money in my account anyway.
I wouldn't put any weight into what an Apple Store employee says about voiding (or not) the warranty.
 
I just upgraded my Mini to 32GB Crucial memory. The install is fairly simple if you take your time and don't brute force things. The trickiest part for me was getting the wifi antenna connected again. Had to line it up just right to pop it on. 32GB recognized and running well!
 
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