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I think it's because iOS 10 did more surface level design changes and also the Messages app. iOS 11 is doing more behind the scenes and across the OS.
Didn't iOS 10 change the entire underlying file system? Like macOS is doing in/with High Sierra? That's about as immense and significant an update 'behind the scenes & across the OS' as possible;)
I think UI-wise you're correct, maybe just got it backwards as this (iOS 11) is definitely a cosmetic/UI overhaul, the most significant since iOS 7.

I've held off so far, still on beta 10.3.3 - but with the iPad 10.5" I'm starting to become antsy, possibly the third PB ....sounds as though it's running better on the iPad so far - and I think most of us rely more on our phones than iPads - it's an amazing update to the UI for the iPad and I'm definitely getting excited to drop it in.

Thanks to all for their reply, as some are tired of hearing the question, many of us aren't and this seemingly is getting the most attention... this thread, so those that are posting, specific models of iOS device help the rest of us that usually do participate in beta but wait for the right time and balance/gamble.

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Best response in this thread. Guess what, you dont like it, hit the back button buddy.

No, why don't you hit the search button, buddy? There are dozens of threads with this question.

Just do it! What's the point of asking? People on betas willingly accept the fact that not everything will be fine and dandy. It's a beta right?

Sick of seeing this question across every single website I visit. MR, 9to5, reddit, etc...
 
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No, why don't you hit the search button, buddy? There are dozens of threads with this question.

Just do it! What's the point of asking? People on betas willingly accept the fact that not everything will be fine and dandy. It's a beta right?

Sick of seeing this question across every single website I visit. MR, 9to5, reddit, etc...

Then stop reading these websites. For as long as there are betas, you will see this question.
 
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Back up, back up, and have a back up device. Cant remember how many posts Ive read where the user is crying ("What should I do") because they installed a beta and now their main device (the one that they rely on every day) is dead or not working.
 
Then stop reading these websites. For as long as there are betas, you will see this question.

No, stop asking the same question. Are you 5 years old asking for permission? What business do you have on a beta if you have to ask about functionality? Try it and downgrade back, report your bugs, report any app issues you have and that's that.
 
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Didn't iOS 10 change the entire underlying file system? Like macOS is doing in/with High Sierra? That's about as immense and significant an update 'behind the scenes & across the OS' as possible;)
I think UI-wise you're correct, maybe just got it backwards as this (iOS 11) is definitely a cosmetic/UI overhaul, the most significant since iOS 7.
I was talking about 10.0 beta. The file system was changed in 10.3. I think both versions have a lot of visual changes, but iOS 11 brings things like several new features to the iPad, customizable control center, screen recording, ARKit, machine learning, DND while driving etc. and probably something for the iPhone 8.
 
Got it on an iPad pro 12.9 and largely no issues. Battery life seems ok too. Put it on an unused 5s (I have no spare SIM so it is on WiFI only) and the battery does seem to drain in about 18 hours with no use - iOS10 lasted about 2 days in the same state. Stability wise, seems very usable, BUT it's beta, stuff won't work.

I would agree with the poster that said it seems fine on an iPad, but if you rely on your phone (lol who doesn't!), maybe hold back for another couple of betas.

As a developer and a tinkerer, I can live with bugs (I create most of them!), but Mr Joe Public may need to hold back a bit.

Make sure you have an encrypted backup (archived) on your Mac/PC and I also have the full restore.ispw file for the version of iOS10 you backed up.
 
Betalyf is hard. Betalyf when travelling can be a downright challenge. Battery packs everywhere has become the norm. BUT, hooking up multiple devices to many many many different wifi networks have become a breeze with the new wifi password sharing. It’s the single most game changing feature for people who need it.
 
Betalyf is hard. Betalyf when travelling can be a downright challenge. Battery packs everywhere has become the norm. BUT, hooking up multiple devices to many many many different wifi networks have become a breeze with the new wifi password sharing. It’s the single most game changing feature for people who need it.

What is WiFi password sharing, is that different than storing in my keychain and syncing with iCloud?
 
I can confirm the other reports that battery life with this latest Public Beta is horrible (just like it was with the previous Public Beta), at least on my iPhone 7 Plus. Along with this, I often notice the iPhone getting very noticeably warm just with surfing.

It’s very different in these regards from 10.3.2.
 
There is a reason why it's called beta. For me,beta versions is something I run on devices that's not necessary for daily use. Using a beta version as your only daily driver is no good idea. If you want to try it,buy a second hand iPhone 6 or iPad Air 2 to use as test platform.
 
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Was about to ask this same question. Thanks for making this post now I don't have to make ANOTHER ONE lol
 
I have iOS 11 running on my old iPhone 6, and it still feels sluggish and clunky at times, whereas iOS 10 felt fast and smooth on the same phone.

iOS 10 has so perfected smoothness of the UI and performance that I see no reason to sacrifice any of that to run it on my daily driver iPhone 7 Plus. In fact, if this sluggish clunkiness is present in the final release in ANY capacity, I plan to keep my 7+ on iOS 10 until the iOS 11 performance issues are worked out.

Also, I'm less excited about iOS 11 than I have been about past versions. It seems to bring less to the table.
 
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What is WiFi password sharing, is that different than storing in my keychain and syncing with iCloud?
If you are connected to a network and any device near you needs it, you just move into range of the device while it is on the password screen and you can instantly share the password from your phone, iPad or Mac. Not sure if it is NFC or BT, but it didn’t work with older iPhones. It doesn’t require you to share an iCloud account either. It’s just magic.

You type in the password once, and then all the devices near you can connect to the same network as you (as long as you give permission).
 
If you are connected to a network and any device near you needs it, you just move into range of the device while it is on the password screen and you can instantly share the password from your phone, iPad or Mac. Not sure if it is NFC or BT, but it didn’t work with older iPhones. It doesn’t require you to share an iCloud account either. It’s just magic.

You type in the password once, and then all the devices near you can connect to the same network as you (as long as you give permission).

Will it prompt you or something for permission? I have not had that happen yet.
 
Will it prompt you or something for permission? I have not had that happen yet.

Device A is connected to a WiFi.
Device B wants to connect to WiFi, selects the same network as Device A and gets the password prompt
Device A moves close to Device B and receives a "Do you want to share password" dialog similar to the AirPods or AppleTV setup dialog
Confirm on Device A and Device B is now connected to the same network without needing to type in the password

Again, this might require NFC in both devices (something that the help text doesn't reflect) so YMMV.
 
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