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Michael CM1

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Feb 4, 2008
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I wonder what he thinks about it having more than 640KB of RAM, which as we all know is the most any application will ever need.
 

agkm800

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Jun 18, 2009
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I agree with Bill Gates that a pen would be a very useful addition to any tablet device, but the iPad will be a huge hit without it anyway. I am sure Bill Gates is testing HP's Slate these days and I wonder if it comes with a pen.
 

sumzero

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Jan 30, 2010
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Forest Lake, MN
I agree with Bill Gates that a pen would be a very useful addition to any tablet device, but the iPad will be a huge hit without it anyway. I am sure Bill Gates is testing HP's Slate these days and I wonder if it comes with a pen.

agreed, also i would like to add i don't mind spending an extra 30 dollars on a pen that works on the ipad.
 

Hmac

macrumors 68020
May 30, 2007
2,135
4
Midwest USA
Yeh. Bill Gates. Hardware marketing genius.

I suspect he knows this because the lack of a pen was why the Zune failed.
 

mtnDewFTW

macrumors 6502a
Oct 26, 2009
902
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San Francisco, CA
Well, it had a keyboard. So that's solved.
And as far as pen goes, I don't really care much for it, but you can go get a stylus if you really want one.

So, it's really not an issue, and shouldn't necessarily get in it's way of succeeding.
I think that the iPad has other, more serious flaws that may get in it's way of success.
 

admanimal

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Apr 22, 2005
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you realize your still mocking one of the richest men in the world?

So? He is rich because he is an excellent businessman, not because he is a product visionary.

I mean basically Bill is saying "Apple should have made their product more like these other products that have been commercial failures for nearly a decade."
 

sumzero

macrumors member
Jan 30, 2010
70
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Forest Lake, MN
So? He is rich because he is an excellent businessman, not because he is a product visionary.

windows is a product, word is a product any other piece of software they have developed is a project he was involved in the xbox which was and is a product.

also Zune isn't a failure nor is the xbox. the Zune was actually able to break into the Mp3 market even though the ipod already dominated... kudos to them.
 

admanimal

macrumors 68040
Apr 22, 2005
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windows is a product, word is a product any other piece of software they have developed is a project he was involved in the xbox which was and is a product.

Right. I didn't say Gates wasn't involved in any products, I said he has never been a product visionary. All of those products you mentioned were "me too" products created by Microsoft to compete with existing products. The original Windows was a ripoff of Mac OS to run on IBM machines, they created the Xbox because Sony was getting too much traction in the living room, and there were already plenty of word processing programs before Word.
 

Bytor65

macrumors 6502a
Feb 10, 2010
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Canada
So? He is rich because he is an excellent businessman, not because he is a product visionary.

I mean basically Bill is saying "Apple should have made their product more like these other products that have been commercial failures for nearly a decade."

Not only that but it is all built on the original Monopoly stemming from licensing an OS MS didn't even write, they bought it from someone else and licensed widely. Those early years were also full of ruthless, slimy moves on Microsofts part.

So mainly, luck, monopoly, and ruthlessness.

Product design??? Something largely absent because it wasn't needed, when you ruthlessly wield a monopoly.
 

sumzero

macrumors member
Jan 30, 2010
70
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Forest Lake, MN
does that mean that every one of his opinions is correct?

another very rich guy named steve jobs has a different opinion.

not at all, i don't think he is correct either i just don't see the point in mocking him as some of the people in here are doing.

**** last week everyone was mocking the ipad, saying jobs was out of his mind, these men have good business sense.
 

Peace

Cancelled
Apr 1, 2005
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Space The Only Frontier
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.



Enuf said.;)
jobs_gates.jpg
 

thejakill

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Sep 8, 2005
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not at all, i don't think he is correct either i just don't see the point in mocking him as some of the people in here are doing.

**** last week everyone was mocking the ipad, saying jobs was out of his mind, these men have good business sense.

he's an easy target. forgive us.

but seriously, how can someone look at the ipad and all the hype it is getting and all the success of the iphone platform and not think the ipad will be a success, too? hasn't he learned his lesson?

i guess the whole full OS/tablet thing dies hard...
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
Does anyone still listen to this idiot?

At some point he went from "clever" to "eccentric has-been."

In any case, he's been woefully out of touch with tech for around a decade now.

you realize your still mocking one of the richest men in the world?

So?

Paris Hilton is loaded too.

And the guy in the alley down the street selling coke drives a BMW.

Bernie Madoff had a Florida mansion and a Manhattan duplex, a large house in Roslyn, New York, and another on the beachfront at Long Island. He had a 55-foot fishing boat he played around on during weekends. Dollars-to-donuts he took a nice cut of the $50 billion he swindled out of investors.

What's your point?
 

agkm800

macrumors 6502a
Jun 18, 2009
672
4
Bill Gates is not the right person to ask about how the iPad will do. He's been using tablet PCs with pen for many years but he has less experience with the iPhone/Touch than most people. It's only natural for Bill Gates to think that iPad also needs a pen to succeed.
 

FCDP

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2007
210
20
Toronto, Canada
I think Bill Gates is looking at it more in the productivity and creation sense, rather than the consumer platform that the iPad will most likely fit.

The iPad is a consumer device, it's designed to consume content like books, music, videos, podcasts, etc. It's intent isn't meant for creation, as much as Apple would like us to believe with iWork. Developers can very much fill that creation void, but, I think other devices fit the roll of a Creation, business device better then the iPad.

Personally, I don't see the value in owning an iPad myself, as I'm more interested in such a device replacing my paper notebook and the many roles it fills, rather then another way to consume content. Of course, again, developers could fill that void over time with new applications.

If only Microsoft would actually market the Courier. That's a device I could actually see myself using for what I need.
 
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