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Bill Gates Doesn't Think iPad Will Be As Successful Without A Pen

I wonder what he thinks about it having more than 640KB of RAM, which as we all know is the most any application will ever need.
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Of course, Gates never actually said that 640KB was all anyone would ever need.

What he said, at a college speech poking fun at himself about fifteen years after they boosted memory support from 64KB to 640KB, was that they all thought at the time that 640KB should be enough of an increase to last for the next ten years. As he ruefully commented, it turned out to be only good enough for about half that time.

If you were around in the early personal computing days, you'd probably have thought the same thing. Heck, a lot of people thought we'd never need more than 100MB of disk space.
 
kdarling said:
If you were around in the early personal computing days, you'd probably have thought the same thing. Heck, a lot of people thought we'd never need more than 100MB of disk space.
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1GB HDD once sounded like... um... 1,000 horsepower in a car -- too big and too much. :D
 
*LTD* said:
Bernie Madoff had a Florida mansion and a Manhattan duplex, a large house in Roslyn, New York, and another on the beachfront at Long Island. He had a 55-foot fishing boat he played around on during weekends. Dollars-to-donuts he took a nice cut of the $50 billion he swindled out of investors.

What's your point?
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So what? He scammed investors. That's how he acquired his riches. Bill Gates relied on his skills like Steve Jobs to make a living, putting him at where he is today. Everybody makes comments about other companies, even as Steve Jobs does, so can we can put it that Jobs is an idiot to others too? :rolleyes:

OP: I think it'll be during the winter that people will actually need a stylus to work on the iPad, or those special type of mittens that enable their fingers to interact with the iPad's capacitive screen.
 
greygray said:
So what? He scammed investors. That's how he acquired his riches. Bill Gates relied on his skills like Steve Jobs to make a living, putting him at where he is today.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates was called "evasive and nonresponsive" by a source present at a session in which Gates was questioned on his deposition.[2] He argued over the definitions of words such as "compete", "concerned", "ask", and "we".[3] BusinessWeek reported, "Early rounds of his deposition show him offering obfuscatory answers and saying 'I don't recall' so many times that even the presiding judge had to chuckle. Worse, many of the technology chief's denials and pleas of ignorance have been directly refuted by prosecutors with snippets of E-mail Gates both sent and received."[4] Intel Vice-President Steven McGeady, called as a witness, quoted Paul Maritz, a senior Microsoft vice president as having stated an intention to "extinguish" and "smother" rival Netscape Communications Corporation and to "cut off Netscape's air supply" by giving away a clone of Netscape's flagship product for free. The Microsoft executive denied the allegations.[5]

A number of videotapes were submitted as evidence by Microsoft during the trial, including one that demonstrated that removing Internet Explorer from Microsoft Windows caused slowdowns and malfunctions in Windows. In the videotaped demonstration of what Microsoft vice president James Allchin's stated to be a seamless segment filmed on one PC, the plaintiff noticed that some icons mysteriously disappear and reappear on the PC's desktop, suggesting that the effects might have been falsified.[6] Allchin admitted that the blame for the tape problems lay with some of his staff "They ended up filming it -- grabbing the wrong screen shot," he said of the incident. Later, Allchin re-ran the demonstration and provided a new videotape, but in so doing Microsoft dropped the claim that Windows is slowed down when Internet Explorer is removed. Mark Murray, a Microsoft spokesperson, berated the government attorneys for "nitpicking on issues like video production."[7] Microsoft submitted a second inaccurate videotape into evidence later the same month as the first. The issue in question was how easy or hard it was for America Online users to download and install Netscape Navigator onto a Windows PC. Microsoft's videotape showed the process as being quick and easy, resulting in the Netscape icon appearing on the user's desktop. The government produced its own videotape of the same process, revealing that Microsoft's videotape had conveniently removed a long and complex part of the procedure and that the Netscape icon was not placed on the desktop, requiring a user to search for it. Brad Chase, a Microsoft vice president, verified the government's tape and conceded that Microsoft's own tape was falsified.[8]


Yup. Abuse of monopoly, lying/presenting false evidence in court and ripping off Apple at every turn takes a lot of hard work.

(LOL, if you think about it, it actually does.)
 
greygray said:
So what? He scammed investors. That's how he acquired his riches. Bill Gates relied on his skills like Steve Jobs to make a living, putting him at where he is today. Everybody makes comments about other companies, even as Steve Jobs does, so can we can put it that Jobs is an idiot to others too? :rolleyes:

OP: I think it'll be during the winter that people will actually need a stylus to work on the iPad, or those special type of mittens that enable their fingers to interact with the iPad's capacitive screen.
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Do you foresee a rash of arctic ipad use?
 
*LTD* said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

Mistated an intention to "extinguish" and "smother" rival Netscape Communications Corporation and to "cut off Netscape's air supply" by giving away a clone of Netscape's flagship product for free. The Microsoft executive denied the allegations.[/B][5]
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Another beauty of this. IE actually came from Spyglass. MS had signed an agreement for the percentage of sales of Internet Explorer going to Spyglass. When they gave it away for free, they screwed not only Netscape, but also Spyglass. Very typical MS screwing not only competitors but also business partners.
 
sumzero said:
not at all, i don't think he is correct either i just don't see the point in mocking him as some of the people in here are doing.

**** last week everyone was mocking the ipad, saying jobs was out of his mind, these men have good business sense.
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"everyone" was not mocking the iPad. Plenty of people can and do see the potential in it. The media (including bloggers, etc) likes a good "he said / she said" story though, so they played it up.
 
It is based off gestures, pinching, swiping, that sort of thing. Not moving a pointer around and clicking. It's innovative. The whole top of it responds to
gestures. That is mad cool in my book.
 
If Bill's vision of the tablet was dressed for success, it would be a widely used form factor today. He's been pushing the concept since 2001, yet the PC tablet has gone nowhere (kinda like windows mobile).

Sorry, Bill's vision is as blurry as ever on this forecast.

We'll soon see if Steve's vision is any better.
 
Pogo Sketch for iPad

I'm thinking about picking one up to do sketches on the iPad for my various design classes. I'm hoping that Autodesk will create a version of their Sketchbook Mobile for iPad.
 
Man don't you goofballs realize that Apple does exactly what you are accusing MS of doing? Where did they get OSX? iTunes? The iBook interface? The iPod?Etc. etc. ad. nauseum? Apple doesn't really do ANYTHING original. At all. But they do it in a way that seems new to people. Similar to what MS does. I know some of you don't like to admit that, but it's true. There is a reason why people actually like Windows, and especially 7.

Both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are very smart people. They just have a different outlook on things. Gates is more about productivity and engineering. Jobs is about form and design over function.

Neither is perfect, but you guys calling Gates an "idiot" or anything similar are simply looking like fools.
 
I guess here's where we separate fact from fiction or how to spot those who want to reinvent the truth to suit their needs. Much like discussing politics, people will justify, attack, revise, etc.

Both Apple and MS are "guilty" of stealing technology and/or climbing on someone's shoulders/piggybacking off someone else's success. You can argue all day whose done it more or whatever. Neither company is innocent there.

And both Jobs and Gates are visionaries regardless of what anyone here thinks. Vision and execution are also different things.

For example - Gates - nearly 20 years ago (at least) envisioned smart appliances and homes that would recognize the user and adapt for that person. IE - how you like your toast, what room temperature you like your room, how bright to keep the lights, what stations you prefer, automatically adjusting seats, mirrors, etc in a car and so on.

Has that happened yet - not really. Windows CE was originally designed for these smart appliances but didn't really take off. Does that make Gates any less a visionary? No. It just means that either people weren't ready and/or the execution of the vision wasn't right.

Apple has had its share of failures as well.

Argue all you want about the companies - like I said - at the end of the day, Both Gates and Jobs ARE visionaries. And thankfully you can have many visionaries all who have a different vision and it's OK. One doesn't have to be better than the other. They can co-exist.
 
last time I heard sensei Bill talk **** was about "Unproven Technology" (Blu-Ray). Look at Blu-Ray now.

I'm riding with Bill tho. hahaha
 
smetvid said:
It is much easier to loose a pen then my finger. If I do I always have nine more.
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I've seen people use a stylus for their iPhone. I don't understand it. It's designed to accept your finger as a stylus, and the software determines the accuracy as necessary. Why anyone effs around with a stylus is beyond me.

Same will go for the iPad.
 
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