People need to stop messing around with cryptocrap. it's such a plague causing all kinds of problems. Almost every scam/malware/ransomware uses a bitcoin address of sort
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Bitcoin Scam App Approved by Apple Robs iPhone User of $600,000+
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Why? They didn't force the guy to enter his credentials. He should have done his research to realize that the legitimate company doesn't have an app store app. A really expensive lesson this guy learned.
So Apple owes this person 17.1 bitcoins then since it was Apple's fault the app got through.
That's the logic and reasoning the group of pro only Apple app store / anti-3rd party app store people use.
"If you get an app outside of the app store and something bad happens, don't blame Apple for it because you strayed outside of the walled garden. Deal with the 3rd party app store or developer/website you got the app from."
Well, this person got the app from Apple. Apple should take the rap since they had control over this.
If I'm going to download my banks app, I'm going to make very sure the publisher of the app is actually my bank and not just a 3rd party app that works with my bank. Know who you're giving your credentials to. Don't just assume.
You can't rely on others to always protect you. Sounds like this guy was far too complacent and reliant on others.
You can't rely on others to always protect you. Sounds like this guy was far too complacent and reliant on others.
Apple has no control of a third party login system. the guy willingly gave up his login credentials without checking to make sure that company actually ahd a legit app store app. His fault.
Ouch! I'd have taken the money and run long before earning that much.
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Seems like it would have been prudent for the user to perform a little due diligence before entrusting his credentials for accessing $600,000 to a free app.
That this is news means that the walled garden IS protecting users from situations like this.
Apple was warned multiple times about fake Trezor apps? I though all iOS apps have to be signed by the developer? Maybe it's time to make developers carry insurance against this sort of fraud? Or perhaps Apple should insure them against this kind of fraud as part of being a developer? How can it be so easy for one company to masquerade as another in the digital age? This is ridiculous.
That's not at all. No one is expecting Apple to catch 100% of everything 100% of the time. It's still on the user to make sure they're using the right app and sharing their information with who they think they are.
I'm happy Apple does a ton to prevent most illegitimate apps from making it through, but I also understand it can't do so all of the time.
Just because you have anti-virus installed doesn't mean you should downloading applications from any source and running them on your computer. Having a tetanus shot doesn't mean it's smart to play with rusty tools.
Because Apple's reasoning behind their app store and fees is that they vet and approve each app, and by doing so we're safer and better off vs allowing users to get their apps from outside of Apple's walled garden.
Uh oh 🙄 Humpty Dumpty fell out of the Apple Tree .... 🍎 🌳 🥚 🍳
To pay or not to pay that is the question? Actually, damage done, Apple will pay (in some form) whether they want to or not. The longer they wait or delay the higher the price will be paid in loss of App Store faith, trust and mostly in VALUE proposition.
To pay or not to pay that is the question? Actually, damage done, Apple will pay (in some form) whether they want to or not. The longer they wait or delay the higher the price will be paid in loss of App Store faith, trust and mostly in VALUE proposition.
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Seems like it would have been prudent for the user to perform a little due diligence before entrusting his credentials for accessing $600,000 to a free app.
This is yet another shortcoming of digital currencies. There is no nation to back them, hence no sovereign to insure against losses.
That’s the thing though, it is implausible that an App Store that has 100’s, 1000’s of app submissions every day can capture everything...so Apple needs to stop claiming their walled garden is this super safe haven. In my opinion, claiming something is something that it clearly isn’t is exactly what the scammers are doing; pretending to be something they’re not.
I think Apple IS responsible for this since it doesn’t allow third party apps (all apps need apple’s approval).
There's only so much time in a day. How are App Store employees supposed to vet apps and monitor approved social media apps for disfavored content?
I for one am grateful that Apple prioritizes lurking on approved social media apps over making sure a developer calling himself "Bank of America" (for example) actually represents Bank of America.
I for one am grateful that Apple prioritizes lurking on approved social media apps over making sure a developer calling himself "Bank of America" (for example) actually represents Bank of America.
Apple should be made legally liable for money lost due to scam apps in the AppStore and forced to repay anyone who has lost money in the same way banks and credit card companies refund losses due to fraud.
Ummmm crypto in general is a scam for the wealthy or the people wishing to launder money . It's also directly connected to a dollar amount. Without the dollar being worth something , crypto would be worthless.
Oh and you cant be possibly for crypto and for the environment. As one crypto transaction has the same carbon footprint as a household uses for a month.....let that sink in for a second.
Oh and you cant be possibly for crypto and for the environment. As one crypto transaction has the same carbon footprint as a household uses for a month.....let that sink in for a second.
How would permitting apps that don't require Apple's approval have prevented this?
That's kind of a ridiculous argument, it would be the same as saying that people should stop using money because well criminals also use money. Or we should stop using computers because that allows cybercrime to happen!
It seems like a paradox, but yes. The App Store changed the bar for what it takes to distribute apps. Now instead of requiring technical knowhow to set up a server, it requires that you be willing to spend money.
In making this change, good people who want to release quality software just because they want it to exist are no longer encouraged to make apps. See, for example, Spectacle and Itscal on the Mac as fantastic free software that you just download.
Instead, the stuff you get is crap from people who are willing to throw a few hundred dollars in Apple's direction in order to make a buck.
The motivations for making software are now completely messed up. Legit commercial software is no different than before, but we've blown away all the great free software and replaced it with adware that wants to extract all the info they can get (and sell) from you, bombard you with ads, or just outright scam you.
Sure, the scams always existed, but the level of technical know-how needed meant there were fewer people willing to do them - anyone who knew how to scam you probably had a decent day job for income and was just as happy to release their side project for free.
Seems you want it both ways.
When people ask for other means of obtaining apps besides Apple's app store, you'll say:
"If you get your app outside of Apple's app store, you won't have Apple to protect you as they vet and approve each and every app. By design, the Apple app store is safer this way. If you get your app from outside of Apple and something bad happens, don't blame Apple."
When someone gets scammed by an app that was approved by Apple:
"It's your fault; Don't blame Apple. You should have done your due diligence and made sure the person/company developing the app was legit. You cannot rely on others (i.e. Apple) to always protect you."
Apple isn't taking the blame when they control the only iOS app store, stop imagining what would happen with multiple iOS app stores.
It’s not about prevention, it’s about accountability. If the guy had downloaded the app from a third party (like a website or another App Store), then Apple would have nothing to do with this, but because the app was reviewed and approved by Apple itself, it makes it responsible. You could say that Apple allowed a scammer to scam its users the moment it approved it. If Apple is going to play the “privacy/security card” it should be held accountable when things like this happen.