People need to stop messing around with cryptocrap. it's such a plague causing all kinds of problems. Almost every scam/malware/ransomware uses a bitcoin address of sort
Why? They didn't force the guy to enter his credentials. He should have done his research to realize that the legitimate company doesn't have an app store app. A really expensive lesson this guy learned.Looks like Apple owes someone $600k...
So Apple owes this person 17.1 bitcoins then since it was Apple's fault the app got through.Agree. Now can you imagine the chaos if Apple can't catch everything and multiple app stores are out there with fake apps? Apple will take a rap for something they have no control over. This is why this "apple is a monopoly" thing has to go away.
Apple has no control of a third party login system. the guy willingly gave up his login credentials without checking to make sure that company actually ahd a legit app store app. His fault.So Apple owes this person 17.1 bitcoins then since it was Apple's fault the app got through.
That's the logic and reasoning the group of pro only Apple app store / anti-3rd party app store people use.
"If you get an app outside of the app store and something bad happens, don't blame Apple for it because you strayed outside of the walled garden. Deal with the 3rd party app store or developer/website you got the app from."
Well, this person got the app from Apple. Apple should take the rap since they had control over this.
This 👆👆👆Yeah, not sure how an open app store or alternate app store would have prevented this. It would probably actually make it more common place.
It is ultimately the responsibility of the user to make sure that when entering critical credentials into any app that the app is truly from the legitimate source. Don't know what this guy expects to realistically get from Apple.
That this is news means that the walled garden IS protecting users from situations like this.Seriously though. Isn't the wall garden supposed to protect users from situations like this?
100% agree.If I'm going to download my banks app, I'm going to make very sure the publisher of the app is actually my bank and not just a 3rd party app that works with my bank. Know who you're giving your credentials to. Don't just assume.
You can't rely on others to always protect you. Sounds like this guy was far too complacent and reliant on others.
That's not at all. No one is expecting Apple to catch 100% of everything 100% of the time. It's still on the user to make sure they're using the right app and sharing their information with who they think they are.So Apple owes this person 17.1 bitcoins then since it was Apple's fault the app got through.
That's the logic and reasoning the group of pro only Apple app store / anti-3rd party app store people use.
"If you get an app outside of the app store and something bad happens, don't blame Apple for it because you strayed outside of the walled garden. Deal with the 3rd party app store or developer/website you got the app from."
Well, this person got the app from Apple. Apple should take the rap since they had control over this.
Because Apple's reasoning behind their app store and fees is that they vet and approve each app, and by doing so we're safer and better off vs allowing users to get their apps from outside of Apple's walled garden.Why? They didn't force the guy to enter his credentials. He should have done his research to realize that the legitimate company doesn't have an app store app. A really expensive lesson this guy learned.
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Seems like it would have been prudent for the user to perform a little due diligence before entrusting his credentials for accessing $600,000 to a free app.![]()
That’s the thing though, it is implausible that an App Store that has 100’s, 1000’s of app submissions every day can capture everything...so Apple needs to stop claiming their walled garden is this super safe haven. In my opinion, claiming something is something that it clearly isn’t is exactly what the scammers are doing; pretending to be something they’re not.Yeah, not sure how an open app store or alternate app store would have prevented this. It would probably actually make it more common place.
It is ultimately the responsibility of the user to make sure that when entering critical credentials into any app that the app is truly from the legitimate source. Don't know what this guy expects to realistically get from Apple.
How would permitting apps that don't require Apple's approval have prevented this?I think Apple IS responsible for this since it doesn’t allow third party apps (all apps need apple’s approval).
That's kind of a ridiculous argument, it would be the same as saying that people should stop using money because well criminals also use money. Or we should stop using computers because that allows cybercrime to happen!People need to stop messing around with cryptocrap. it's such a plague causing all kinds of problems. Almost every scam/malware/ransomware uses a bitcoin address of sort
It seems like a paradox, but yes. The App Store changed the bar for what it takes to distribute apps. Now instead of requiring technical knowhow to set up a server, it requires that you be willing to spend money.Seems that the Coalition of App Fairness has a solution. Let ANYONE post ANY APP and not be responsible to ANYONE. Sorry, the wild wild west is not a place for apps. Even if a few bad apples come in, better Apple to deal with them.
Seems you want it both ways.If I'm going to download my banks app, I'm going to make very sure the publisher of the app is actually my bank and not just a 3rd party app that works with my bank. Know who you're giving your credentials to. Don't just assume.
You can't rely on others to always protect you. Sounds like this guy was far too complacent and reliant on others.
Apple isn't taking the blame when they control the only iOS app store, stop imagining what would happen with multiple iOS app stores.Agree. Now can you imagine the chaos if Apple can't catch everything and multiple app stores are out there with fake apps? Apple will take a rap for something they have no control over. This is why this "apple is a monopoly" thing has to go away.
It’s not about prevention, it’s about accountability. If the guy had downloaded the app from a third party (like a website or another App Store), then Apple would have nothing to do with this, but because the app was reviewed and approved by Apple itself, it makes it responsible. You could say that Apple allowed a scammer to scam its users the moment it approved it. If Apple is going to play the “privacy/security card” it should be held accountable when things like this happen.How would permitting apps that don't require Apple's approval have prevented this?