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You can't rely on others to always protect you. Sounds like this guy was far too complacent and reliant on others.

Unfortunately that's the entitled world we live in now. The mindset of everyone else besides you is responsible for everything no matter what and you are never to blame for something you might have done. Everyone else owes you something for your mistakes.
 
How would permitting apps that don't require Apple's approval have prevented this?
It probably wouldn't have, but at least you won't have this false sense of security with Apple's app store and their claim that their walled garden is safer and better for users since they vet and approve all apps.
 
Because Apple's reasoning behind their app store and fees is that they vet and approve each app, and by doing so we're safer and better off vs allowing users to get their apps from outside of Apple's walled garden.
Correct. But if Apple has no control and pandemonium reigns supreme with rogue apps, it's only when one realizes that catching most of the bad apples is better than not catching most of them. You're turning this into an all or nothing conversation, when it should be mostly or less.
 
It seems like a paradox, but yes. The App Store changed the bar for what it takes to distribute apps. Now instead of requiring technical knowhow to set up a server, it requires that you be willing to spend money.

In making this change, good people who want to release quality software just because they want it to exist are no longer encouraged to make apps. See, for example, Spectacle and Itscal on the Mac as fantastic free software that you just download.

Instead, the stuff you get is crap from people who are willing to throw a few hundred dollars in Apple's direction in order to make a buck.

The motivations for making software are now completely messed up. Legit commercial software is no different than before, but we've blown away all the great free software and replaced it with adware that wants to extract all the info they can get (and sell) from you, bombard you with ads, or just outright scam you.

Sure, the scams always existed, but the level of technical know-how needed meant there were fewer people willing to do them - anyone who knew how to scam you probably had a decent day job for income and was just as happy to release their side project for free.
And what you mentioned won't go away if Apple charges $0 for the developer fee and $0 for the commission. The bar of $99 and 30% will not change the tide, it's false to think it will.
 
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Why? They didn't force the guy to enter his credentials. He should have done his research to realize that the legitimate company doesn't have an app store app. A really expensive lesson this guy learned.
I’m sorry but no. Apple promotes security on its AppStore all the time yet allows fake apps like this one or apps that charge 69,99 after a free trial for an app that does nothing

This is Apple’s fault. They have created this false sense of security for the consumer.

They have to deliver, and on this they didn’t.

What your saying is if someone created an app that looks like my Bank and I entered my credentials it would be my fault? Nonsense.
 
Bitcoin is over the 40 mark if I recall from last I checked,

Makes sense since crooks forced so many companies and individuals to pay billions in ransomware last year.

Andressen Horowitz and friends who invented these scams in the first place and own nearly all of it are laughing to the...bank.


Pyramid schemes aside all forms of gambling like this are part of the attention economy: the war for our attention that has made a small group of companies the richest in human history.

To a much greater extent than is generally acknowledged, the price of the free and open web that we have today is paid in privacy. Our every click, open and scroll is a signal that creates an item of data. Algorithms then sift and sort that data to build very detailed profiles of us, which in turn allows us to be targeted.

It's only when you try to find out what these companies know about you that you discover how much of yourself you've handed over.

If you are being offered anything for free, especially money, then YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.
 
Apple should be made legally liable for money lost due to scam apps in the AppStore and forced to repay anyone who has lost money in the same way banks and credit card companies refund losses due to fraud.
Do you also think Google should be held legally liable for everyone who loses money to fraudulent emails opened in gmail and forced to repay? Doubt it.
 
This 👆👆👆

Seems like it would have been prudent for the user to perform a little due diligence before entrusting his credentials for accessing $600,000 to a free app. :rolleyes:

The fact that a person that has accrued $600,000 in wealth can be so easily duped by an icon leads me to wonder if this is a legit case or someone trying to get rich quick? At some point personal responsibility has to be considered here versus blaming everyone else for your poor decisions.
 
Ummmm crypto in general is a scam for the wealthy or the people wishing to launder money . It's also directly connected to a dollar amount. Without the dollar being worth something , crypto would be worthless.

Oh and you cant be possibly for crypto and for the environment. As one crypto transaction has the same carbon footprint as a household uses for a month.....let that sink in for a second.
Please tell me what the dollar is worth? You can't eat, it it's not directly tied to any commodities (well the petrodollar system, but that's a different kettle of fish).

There are many different types of crypto currency, so the statement regarding the energy use is meaningless.
It's also not really correct for a Bitcoin transaction:
 
One reason I refuse to get an iOS crypto wallet. Way too many scam apps stealing coins from people. Not worth the risk.
 
I’m sorry but no. Apple promotes security on its AppStore all the time yet allows fake apps like this one or apps that charge 69,99 after a free trial for an app that does nothing

This is Apple’s fault. They have created this false sense of security for the consumer.

They have to deliver, and on this they didn’t.

What your saying is if someone created an app that looks like my Bank and I entered my credentials it would be my fault? Nonsense.
Yes. It never hurts to do your due diligence when it comes to your safety and security.
 
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It’s gone. He should have known by now that space is full of criminals criming.

Now imagine a phone with multiple app stores and this kind of scams and theft will happen on thousands of phones every day.
I haven't read about thousands of scam apps everyday on Android.
 
Agree. Now can you imagine the chaos if Apple can't catch everything and multiple app stores are out there with fake apps? Apple will take a rap for something they have no control over. This is why this "apple is a monopoly" thing has to go away.
Ah, so Apple is intentionally bad at this so they can say imagine how much worse it would be if our app store wasn’t the only option.
 
Why? They didn't force the guy to enter his credentials. He should have done his research to realize that the legitimate company doesn't have an app store app. A really expensive lesson this guy learned.
While this is harsh, I kinda agree. If you have $600K in a currency that is known for being a under scam attacks all the time, then you should do a little more research before doing anything with it. But at the same time, I would expect the App Store apps to be safe.
 
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