Bixby - So much unwarranted hate

[widgeteer]

If you look at the points ranking on the "My Bixby" page, you'll know that's not true. But of course you most likely never used a phone with Bixby.

I'm typing this on my Galaxy Note 8.
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My speculation is "I guess" "I think" and so forth. I haven't made a single statement of fact. You're throwing out things like they're statements of fact.

"Samsung added the option because people hated the button"
"There will be no Bixby button in the future"
"Nobody is using Bixby"

All of these are statements retconned as being "speculation" while really just being pointless attacks from a guy that doesn't like Bixby. We get It, you want them to kill Bixby and refuse to acknowledge that they're pushing forward with it.

I don't think you understand what either "retconned" or "speculation" mean.

I haven't been attacking anything. I've been stating what looks fairly obvious. Samsung launched the current Galaxy line with Bixby as a key feature. That key feature was met with such overwhelming popularity that they've killed it because customers hated the button.

Your attempts at deflection by obsessing over whether I like the service or not are silly.

Make an argument based in real world data. Not simplistic "You just hate the thing I like!!"

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I'm typing this on my Galaxy Note 8.

Then you should know Bixby is being used, and the updates are very frequent.

 

[Michael Goff]

I'm typing this on my Galaxy Note 8.
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I don't think you understand what either "retconned" or "speculation" mean.

I haven't been attacking anything. I've been stating what looks fairly obvious. Samsung launched the current Galaxy line with Bixby as a key feature. That key feature was met with such overwhelming popularity that they've killed it because customers hated the button.

Your attempts at deflection by obsessing over whether I like the service or not are silly.

Make an argument based in real world data. Not simplistic "You just hate the thing I like!!"

Except that's the problem. We have no real life data either way. We just know Bixby is being pushed to more lnaguages and is being used in more and more things. We know over 500k people use it often enough that I'm not on the list. We also know they're making a speaker with it.

We don't know why they allowed people to disable the button. That's right. They didn't disable, despite how much you want to push that narrative. You keep pushing how nobody likes Bixby or how Samsung is going to kill it, then ask us to prove Samsung isn't.

Then you ignore all the evidence.

 

[widgeteer]

Except that's the problem. We have no real life data either way. We just know Bixby is being pushed to more lnaguages and is being used in more and more things. We know over 500k people use it often enough that I'm not on the list. We also know they're making a speaker with it.

We don't know why they allowed people to disable the button. That's right. They didn't disable, despite how much you want to push that narrative. You keep pushing how nobody likes Bixby or how Samsung is going to kill it, then ask us to prove Samsung isn't.

Then you ignore all the evidence.

The 500k number is irrelevant. You don't have usage statistics. If the service were even a little popular, Samsung wouldn't have killed it on the phones. They did it because customers complained. No other reason.

 

[Michael Goff]

The 500k number is irrelevant. You don't have usage statistics. If the service were even a little popular, Samsung wouldn't have killed it on the phones. They did it because customers complained. No other reason.

They didn't kill it on their phones. You can repeat that lie as much as you want, it won't make it any more true. Samsung gave people the choice as to whether or not they want the Bibxy Button to function.

And you're extrapolating it's because they don't like Bixby as opposed to, say, not wanting Bixby to be set off in their pocket or when they're meaning to change the volume.

If Bixby wasn't popular, they wouldn't be throwing so much money at it.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

They didn't kill it on their phones. You can repeat that lie as much as you want, it won't make it any more true. Samsung gave people the choice as to whether or not they want the Bibxy Button to function.

And you're extrapolating it's because they don't like Bixby as opposed to, say, not wanting Bixby to be set off in their pocket or when they're meaning to change the volume.

If Bixby wasn't popular, they wouldn't be throwing so much money at it.

Exactly, and that 500k top ranking number means plenty of users are leveling up, which is rewarded with Samsung Pay Rewards. I already got a $50 debit card form using Bixby, and a day away from getting a $20 card. Samsung is spending plenty on Bixby.

 

[Michael Goff]

Exactly, and that 500k top ranking number means plenty of users are leveling up, which is rewarded with Samsung Pay Rewards. I already got a $50 debit card form using Bixby, and a day away from getting a $20 card. Samsung is spending plenty on Bixby.

Clearly they're spending the money because nobody is using it. I'm told this by a guy who can't distinguish between "letting users disable something" and "disabling something".

Guess nobody is using a lot of things on Android since I can disable so much of it.

 

[Klyster]

I use bixby to find certain photos. Certainly helps when my base collection is 2500+ photos and is set to keep growing over the next year.
I can search for photos by name, object, gender etc...
I'm only at 1,300,000 in the world but I don't use bixby for much apart from photo search.
Mine isn't disabled but hit key for bixby home is off.

 

[maflynn]

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[convergent]

Potentially. There's barely anyone who uses Bixby, so those stats could be gamed a bit, I guess. (Interesting that on this subject you're good with speculation. Or according to your own logic I guess you just know everyone with a Galaxy product?)

Samsung gave customers a choice because they hated the hardware button and saw no value add to the service.

And this isn't speculation? Unless you work for Samsung and have some internal information, it is 100% speculation and your personal opinion.

I would love to see a comparison of the relative percentage of owners that see value in Siri vs Bixby. I bet a very small percentage of iPhone owners see value in Siri. I've used iPhones since the 3G and find Siri to be the weakest of all assistants. In a few short weeks I'm finding things I use Bixby for.

 

[widgeteer]

And this isn't speculation? Unless you work for Samsung and have some internal information, it is 100% speculation and your personal opinion.

I would love to see a comparison of the relative percentage of owners that see value in Siri vs Bixby.

And this isn't speculation? Unless you work for Apople and have some internal information, it is 100% speculation and your personal opinion.

 

[convergent]

And this isn't speculation? Unless you work for Apople and have some internal information, it is 100% speculation and your personal opinion.

I didn't speculate anything. I said I'd like to see the numbers. You have no numbers and are making up wild statements you have no information to back up.

 

[Wrathwitch]

Oddly enough I like it. When it comes to doing things system related for the phone Bixby rocks. It's really fast to open menus or submenus when you don't feel like digging through the phone.

 

[Technarchy]

Siri is much better in the current iOS build.

However Siri is also retarded.

Bixby is not perfect but it is certainly less retarded than Siri.

Google Now and Alexa are still more intelligent options in my typical day to day is.

 

[lowendlinux]

It is a good feature that should tempt google to put some effort into assistant. Now daily driving assistant, I don’t find it to be much better than Siri.

The one thing I noticed is google assistant "listens" better in my noisy car. I can tell google to navigate home while my phone is in it's mount on my wifes iPhone it has to be closer to the speaker.

 

[840quadra]

The one thing I noticed is google assistant "listens" better in my noisy car. I can tell google to navigate home while my phone is in it's mount on my wifes iPhone it has to be closer to the speaker.

One thing I can’t figure out with my assistant, is how to stop navigation using only my voice. I can use “Hey Google” to start navigating quite easily, but using that to stop navigation has eluded me.

Stop directions, stop route guidance, stop navigation, cancel navigation, cancel directions, all fail. What it does in most cases (if my phone is unlocked) is bring up a white screen with a tiny map icon at the top left. If I touch that, navigation will stop. Why should I have to do that?

Siri will stop directions with all of those phrases, even more.

 

[lowendlinux]

One thing I can’t figure out with my assistant, is how to stop navigation using only my voice. I can use “Hey Google” to start navigating quite easily, but using that to stop navigation has eluded me.

Stop directions, stop route guidance, stop navigation, cancel navigation, cancel directions, all fail. What it does in most cases (if my phone is unlocked) is bring up a white screen with a tiny map icon at the top left. If I touch that, navigation will stop. Why should I have to do that?

Siri will stop directions with all of those phrases, even more.

I don't know how to either I've never tried to stop navigation via voice

 

[convergent]

One thing I can’t figure out with my assistant, is how to stop navigation using only my voice. I can use “Hey Google” to start navigating quite easily, but using that to stop navigation has eluded me.

Stop directions, stop route guidance, stop navigation, cancel navigation, cancel directions, all fail. What it does in most cases (if my phone is unlocked) is bring up a white screen with a tiny map icon at the top left. If I touch that, navigation will stop. Why should I have to do that?

Siri will stop directions with all of those phrases, even more.

Works fine in Bixby.

Hit the Bixby button and say, "start google maps and navigate to xxxxx".
It starts.
Hit the Bixby button and say, "stop navigation".
It stops.
You could also hit the Bixby button and say, "Close Google Maps."

 

[840quadra]

Works fine in Bixby.

Hit the Bixby button and say, "start google maps and navigate to xxxxx".
It starts.
Hit the Bixby button and say, "stop navigation".
It stops.
You could also hit the Bixby button and say, "Close Google Maps."

Pixel have no Bixby .

 

[convergent]

Pixel have no Bixby .

Ah, so we are discussing Pixels in a thread about Bixby. Must have missed that one.

 

[840quadra]

Ah, so we are discussing Pixels in a thread about Bixby. Must have missed that one.

Not exactly. We had a Segway from Bixby to discussing how it and Google Assistant understood voices in a car, then I complained about not being able to stop navigation via voice, using assistant. The derail is my fault.

Wish I had Bixby, but it isn’t open to other Android phones IIRC. As I stated earlier in the tread, it is a great tool!

 

[rezenclowd3]

Killed Bixby as well to use Google Assistant. One click to open Gesture Search, two to jump to last app, hold for Google Assistant.

As it's only on Samsung products, I doubt to see much growth.

 

[Michael Goff]

https://www.sammobile.com/2017/11/2...ay-as-evidenced-by-samsungs-latest-flip-hone/

Bixby Button

 

[Klyster]

Works fine in Bixby.

Hit the Bixby button and say, "start google maps and navigate to xxxxx".
It starts.
Hit the Bixby button and say, "stop navigation".
It stops.
You could also hit the Bixby button and say, "Close Google Maps."

I have to say "open" Google maps.
If I use "start" bixby says " turns out I'm unable to do that".
If I add "navigate to...." onto the the first sentence, I also get " turns out I'm unable to...."

Another funny limitation I've encountered is searching for images, I used to be able to ask bixby to find photos of "whatever" and it would find them, categorically.
Now when I ask for baby photos, bixby can't find them. Anything else is fine.
Now as I have a nearly two year old and a month old baby, I have literally thousands of baby photos on my phone.
I think there's a limit where bixby becomes overwhelmed.
I might be wrong but I can't see any other reason why bixby can't do it anymore.

Oh, if I say "hi bixby" in my natural (kiwi) dialect, bixby won't wake/respond. If I use an American (assumed) accent, bixby responds everytime lol

 

[convergent]

Seems to be a few Bixby friendly folks in this thread so thought I'd ask here... anyone know if there is a way to automate Bixby commands to occur at certain times? I am looking to turn off some notifications on a schedule... like I don't want to be getting work email notifications when I'm not working, and I don't want to be getting personal email notifications when I'm working. I can control turning them off and on in Bixby fine, but don't want to have to remember to do it every day.