Slysoft AnyDVD HD mentioned earlier states that it does HD playback of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD even without HDCP compliant hardware. Now if only they would make a Mac OS X version
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Blu-Ray playback?
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Slysoft AnyDVD HD mentioned earlier states that it does HD playback of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD even without HDCP compliant hardware. Now if only they would make a Mac OS X version
.Now assume I've ripped that blu-ray disc to an iso via anydvd hd and other software. Encryption removed at the cost of storing a very large file. Are you going to try to tell me that I still can't play that back in Windows?
Physical media will be around a lot longer than you thing pal...I for one DO NOT want the hassle of having to download HD movies and back them up. I'd rather have them on some sort of physical media I can display on a shelf. Not to mention that online deliverable content is always more compressed that what you would get on a CD or DVD etc. No thanks...
+1 again. The world isn't limited to the USA. Many countries don't have such fast internet connections.
Besides, bandwidth is a bottleneck feature, and we've seen it since HD digital distribution started. I've yet to see a store offering 1080p movies on demand.
Besides, bandwidth is a bottleneck feature, and we've seen it since HD digital distribution started. I've yet to see a store offering 1080p movies on demand.
Can someone please answer this question for me ?
If I create some HD content in say final cut express, and then burn that to a blu-ray disc can I watch back what I have burnt or not ?
Also are the 30" Apple cinema displays HDCP compliant ?
Cheers
Dan
If I create some HD content in say final cut express, and then burn that to a blu-ray disc can I watch back what I have burnt or not ?
Also are the 30" Apple cinema displays HDCP compliant ?
Cheers
Dan
No and No.
Apple cannot play back any Blu-Ray movies.
None of Apple's displays or computers have HDCP.
Apple cannot play back any Blu-Ray movies.
None of Apple's displays or computers have HDCP.
A lot of people here seem to be against HDCP, without any clear reason. Apple really should upgrade its monitors at least to support HDCP. If you're viewing legally-acquired content, you have nothing to worry about.
What I mean by that is that Apple has two choices:
- Don't support HDCP anywhere. Users that have media that requires HDCP get poor quality from expensive hardware. Hey, but at least Apple's taking the moral high ground, right? Tech-industry politics is a perfect reason to pay for hardware that doesn't work.
- Support HDCP. If users have legally-purchased content and the right hardware, good for them. If not, they'll get a scaled down version, which is no worse than if Apple hadn't supported HDCP at all. At least HDCP in the ACDs will mean that PS3 owners can buy them to play in HD (I bought a Dell instead of the ACD solely because it didn't have HDCP and couldn't play PS3 games).
If they support it, no bad will happen. It'll be good for those with the latest hardware and software, but it won't hurt other peoples' experiences at all. Besides, support or not won't matter for most media. For the media that requires it, though, it's better to support the scheme.
By the way, I'm using the word 'support' in the 'be compatible with' sense. I'm not making the point that Apple should proactively encourage its use. I'm against DRM, but I'm also against mindless bashing of it without weighing the pros and cons of the decision to be compatible with DRM.
I should add that HDCP has 3 components:
- Computer
----- Hardware
----- Software (drivers and other services)
- Display
The first part of that (hardware support) is already part of the GPUs available in the Mac Pro. It's just that the drivers and media players haven't been updated to take advantage of it and provide the secure path. Apple are going to have to get brand new drivers for Snow Leopard anyway (64-bit ones), so it's possible they'll add HDCP support to the list of requirements to whoever makes those drivers (Apple/IHV).
What I mean by that is that Apple has two choices:
- Don't support HDCP anywhere. Users that have media that requires HDCP get poor quality from expensive hardware. Hey, but at least Apple's taking the moral high ground, right? Tech-industry politics is a perfect reason to pay for hardware that doesn't work.
- Support HDCP. If users have legally-purchased content and the right hardware, good for them. If not, they'll get a scaled down version, which is no worse than if Apple hadn't supported HDCP at all. At least HDCP in the ACDs will mean that PS3 owners can buy them to play in HD (I bought a Dell instead of the ACD solely because it didn't have HDCP and couldn't play PS3 games).
If they support it, no bad will happen. It'll be good for those with the latest hardware and software, but it won't hurt other peoples' experiences at all. Besides, support or not won't matter for most media. For the media that requires it, though, it's better to support the scheme.
By the way, I'm using the word 'support' in the 'be compatible with' sense. I'm not making the point that Apple should proactively encourage its use. I'm against DRM, but I'm also against mindless bashing of it without weighing the pros and cons of the decision to be compatible with DRM.
I should add that HDCP has 3 components:
- Computer
----- Hardware
----- Software (drivers and other services)
- Display
The first part of that (hardware support) is already part of the GPUs available in the Mac Pro. It's just that the drivers and media players haven't been updated to take advantage of it and provide the secure path. Apple are going to have to get brand new drivers for Snow Leopard anyway (64-bit ones), so it's possible they'll add HDCP support to the list of requirements to whoever makes those drivers (Apple/IHV).
Zedd, any Mac can play Blu-Ray movies, provided the content is decrypted. Right now, that means a rip to the drive, then playback with XBMC or Plex.
There's at least one person who's claimed they can play Blu-Ray discs on their MBP under Boot Camp, thus implying that the MBP, at least, is HDCP compliant.
Which is illegal. Anyone can download 720/1080 blu-ray rip movies through bittorrent and play them back.
Which is ALSO illegal. Making a copy of a disc in any form, even for personal use is illegal, no matter how much you try to rationalize it to yourself.
Magical. I buy a DVD, I make a copy for personal use, I do not distribute it, I do not sell the original, I keep both copies in every sense of the word. I do not charge admission for people to come and view it on my private property. Heck, only I ever watch either of them. Just try to call it illegal.
I'm sure you never watched any Hollywood movies in school. Guess what? That was illegal.
That is highly debatable (and perhaps soon to be perfectly legal) because of the fair use provision of US copyright law.
Actually there is a Grey area here.
It's Illegal to make copies of Movies owned by another entity.....namely a rental place. But also from a friend unless you purchase the original and therefore now own it yourself.
It's Illegal to copy movies you own and sell them to others for profit.
It's Illegal to distribute your copies to others for an exchange of money as if they were renting them.
HOWEVER......
It's legal to copy your own movies that you own for your own use provided you are not showing them in any event for profit and can provide proof of ownership of the original.
Its legal to actually give those copies to others without an exchange of money to use instead of your originals. As long as you are not profiting from this there is nothing illegal about it. If you wish to preserve the condition of your originals then you loan out the copies.
It's legal to copy those movies to a storage drive in your own home for the purposes of central repository for your personal home theater.
AND.....
In the event that the fair use policies are lifted then the principle of if I bought it then I own it and what goes on behind my closed door is my business applies here.
NUFF said
Illegal to not watch movies!
I'm just talking about if the school brings everyone into the auditorium to watch a movie. The "EULA" of the movie states that it can only be viewed privately.
And our school wasn't a private school...
Actually its clearly black and white. It is illegal to make a copy of copyrighted material no matter the owner or the copier's intent unless you purchase the right to copy or get written permission from the copyright holder.
You do have the right to make backup copies for your own personal use. NO gray area there.
Your name says what you are making perfectly.
backup |ˈbakˌəp|
noun
Computing the procedure for making extra copies of data in case the original is lost or damaged : automatic online backup | [as adj. ] a backup system.
A copy is a copy. If you don't own the copyright or have written permission from the copyright holder then you have no right to make a copy in any form for any reason.
backup |ˈbakˌəp|
noun
Computing the procedure for making extra copies of data in case the original is lost or damaged : automatic online backup | [as adj. ] a backup system.
A copy is a copy. If you don't own the copyright or have written permission from the copyright holder then you have no right to make a copy in any form for any reason.
So when I take a CD I own, rip it onto my HD, and put it on my ipod, that's illegal? Christ, I made 2 copies, that's twice as illegal!
No. I can rip anything I want, but if it bypasses DRM, THAT is what is illegal... I think, maybe not. I know for a fact you can't sell any software that bypasses DRM. That's why mactheripper (and handbrake) is free.
I'm not buying any HDCP enabled hardware for as long as I can. I heard even the OS has to be locked down before BR discs can be authorized to play on them. Something about the video drivers being protected and weird craziness to prevent ripping of the stream. I heard that's the reason Vista had so many video driver problems at first. Any validity to that?