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klyno

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Jan 29, 2020
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Hello, may anyone tell me if it's normal that my bootrom is still stuck on yosemite even if I am using catalina ? I am asking this because I want to update it somehow in order for my macbook (a1502 mid 2014) to recognize the samsung 970 ssd.
 

tsialex

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Jun 13, 2016
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With the today's release of 10.15.4 DP4 (19E250c), all non-BridgeOS Macs with Catalina support got firmware updates.

EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1290.0.0.0.0
IM14,1142.0.0.0.0
IM14,2142.0.0.0.0
IM14,3142.0.0.0.0
IM14,4202.0.0.0.0
IM15,1233.0.0.0.0
IM16,1233.0.0.0.0
IM16,2233.0.0.0.0
IM17,1176.0.0.0.0
IM18,1181.0.0.0.0
IM18,3181.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.100.345.0
MB10,1185.0.0.0.0
MB8,1188.0.0.0.0
MB9,1190.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1262.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1120.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1193.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1260.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2283.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1159.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2159.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4197.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1190.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1243.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2265.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3265.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1205.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2205.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3205.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1231.0.0.0.0
MM6,1283.0.0.0.0
MM7,1247.0.0.0.0
MP6,1135.0.0.0.0
 
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With the today's release of 10.15.4 DP4 (19E250c), all non-BridgeOS Macs with Catalina support got firmware updates.

EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1290.0.0.0.0
IM14,1142.0.0.0.0
IM14,2142.0.0.0.0
IM14,3142.0.0.0.0
IM14,4202.0.0.0.0
IM15,1233.0.0.0.0
IM16,1233.0.0.0.0
IM16,2233.0.0.0.0
IM17,1176.0.0.0.0
IM18,1181.0.0.0.0
IM18,3181.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.100.345.0
MB10,1185.0.0.0.0
MB8,1188.0.0.0.0
MB9,1190.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1262.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1120.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1193.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1260.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2283.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1159.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2159.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4197.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1190.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1243.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2265.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3265.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1205.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2205.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3205.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1231.0.0.0.0
MM6,1283.0.0.0.0
MM7,1247.0.0.0.0
MP6,1135.0.0.0.0

Thank you for this update. I checked my Watched threads and realised there are updates. The update went unnoticed for me otherwise.
 

Superhai

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Apr 21, 2010
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Unfortunately this is not true, or at least not anymore. My modded Bootrom was overwritten when upgrading to Catalina 10.15.4.
Interesting, my still haven’t upgraded itself, not even on the 10.15.5. What is your Mac and make of SSD?
 

tsialex

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Jun 13, 2016
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10.15.5 DP4 (19F83c) EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

All Catalina supported non-BridgeOS Macs got EFI firmware updates, several Macs got the version bumped two releases over the previous updates.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1291.0.0.0.0
IM14,1143.0.0.0.0
IM14,2143.0.0.0.0
IM14,3143.0.0.0.0
IM14,4203.0.0.0.0
IM15,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,2234.0.0.0.0
IM17,1178.0.0.0.0
IM18,1183.0.0.0.0
IM18,3183.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.120.79.0.0
MB10,1187.0.0.0.0
MB8,1189.0.0.0.0
MB9,1192.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1263.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1121.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1194.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1261.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2284.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4198.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1191.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1245.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2267.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3267.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3207.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1232.0.0.0.0
MM6,1284.0.0.0.0
MM7,1248.0.0.0.0
MP6,1136.0.0.0.0
 
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10.15.5 DP4 (19F83c) EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

All non-BridgeOS Macs got EFI firmware updates, several Macs got it bumped two versions over the last release.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1291.0.0.0.0
IM14,1143.0.0.0.0
IM14,2143.0.0.0.0
IM14,3143.0.0.0.0
IM14,4203.0.0.0.0
IM15,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,2234.0.0.0.0
IM17,1178.0.0.0.0
IM18,1183.0.0.0.0
IM18,3183.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.120.79.0.0
MB10,1187.0.0.0.0
MB8,1189.0.0.0.0
MB9,1192.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1263.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1121.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1194.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1261.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2284.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4198.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1191.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1245.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2267.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3267.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3207.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1232.0.0.0.0
MM6,1284.0.0.0.0
MM7,1248.0.0.0.0
MP6,1136.0.0.0.0

Thank you for keeping the updates coming, @tsialex.
 

donawalt

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Sep 10, 2015
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10.15.5 DP4 (19F83c) EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

All Catalina supported non-BridgeOS Macs got EFI firmware updates, several Macs got the version bumped two releases over the previous updates.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1291.0.0.0.0
IM14,1143.0.0.0.0
IM14,2143.0.0.0.0
IM14,3143.0.0.0.0
IM14,4203.0.0.0.0
IM15,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,2234.0.0.0.0
IM17,1178.0.0.0.0
IM18,1183.0.0.0.0
IM18,3183.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.120.79.0.0
MB10,1187.0.0.0.0
MB8,1189.0.0.0.0
MB9,1192.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1263.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1121.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1194.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1261.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2284.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4198.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1191.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1245.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2267.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3267.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3207.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1232.0.0.0.0
MM6,1284.0.0.0.0
MM7,1248.0.0.0.0
MP6,1136.0.0.0.0

I have a MacBook Pro 16", identifier 16,1, and I have a totally different version:
Boot ROM Version: 1037.100.362.0.0 (iBridge: 17.16.14281.0.0,0)

Not 234.

Why would that be?
 

tsialex

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Jun 13, 2016
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I have a MacBook Pro 16", identifier 16,1, and I have a totally different version:
Boot ROM Version: 1037.100.362.0.0 (iBridge: 17.16.14281.0.0,0)

Not 234.

Why would that be?
This is a list for non-BridgeOS Macs…

P.S.: iMacs and MacBook Pros are different things…
 
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Aavishkar Raj Regmi

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May 22, 2020
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10.15.5 DP4 (19F83c) EFI firmware list for non-BridgeOS Macs:

All Catalina supported non-BridgeOS Macs got EFI firmware updates, several Macs got the version bumped two releases over the previous updates.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1291.0.0.0.0
IM14,1143.0.0.0.0
IM14,2143.0.0.0.0
IM14,3143.0.0.0.0
IM14,4203.0.0.0.0
IM15,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,1234.0.0.0.0
IM16,2234.0.0.0.0
IM17,1178.0.0.0.0
IM18,1183.0.0.0.0
IM18,3183.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.120.79.0.0
MB10,1187.0.0.0.0
MB8,1189.0.0.0.0
MB9,1192.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1263.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1121.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1194.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1261.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2284.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2160.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4198.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1191.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1245.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2267.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3267.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2207.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3207.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1232.0.0.0.0
MM6,1284.0.0.0.0
MM7,1248.0.0.0.0
MP6,1136.0.0.0.0
I have a 13’’ MBP early 2015 (12,1).
I had problems with video editing apps like fcpx and imovie after i updated to 10.15.4 from 10.15.3. Problems like artifacts, freezes and rendering problems.Audio editing was fine.
I downgraded to older OSs but the problem existed. Is there problem with the firmware update? Or anything else?
I updated to this 4th beta and got my firmware upgraded to 191.0.0.0.0. But that didnot fix the problem too in the 4th beta.
Apple released 5th beta for 10.15.5 2 days before, does that include another firmware upgrade? People say this fixed the freezing problem.
1.Does upgraded firmware causes problem in lower OS? And in apps like fcpx?
2.Will I be able to upgrade my firmware after I installed a beta version?
 

chrfr

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Jul 11, 2009
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I have a 13’’ MBP early 2015 (12,1).
I had problems with video editing apps like fcpx and imovie after i updated to 10.15.4 from 10.15.3. Problems like artifacts, freezes and rendering problems.
This crash should be fixed with 10.15.5 and the next security updates for 10.13.6/10.14.6. The GPU crashes on the 2015 Mac Portables in 10.15.4 and in 10.13.6 and 10.14.6 if you've installed the latest security updates. It has nothing to do with the firmware.
 

tsialex

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I have a 13’’ MBP early 2015 (12,1).
I had problems with video editing apps like fcpx and imovie after i updated to 10.15.4 from 10.15.3. Problems like artifacts, freezes and rendering problems.Audio editing was fine.
I downgraded to older OSs but the problem existed. Is there problem with the firmware update? Or anything else?
I updated to this 4th beta and got my firmware upgraded to 191.0.0.0.0. But that didnot fix the problem too in the 4th beta.
Apple released 5th beta for 10.15.5 2 days before, does that include another firmware upgrade? People say this fixed the freezing problem.
1.Does upgraded firmware causes problem in lower OS? And in apps like fcpx?
2.Will I be able to upgrade my firmware after I installed a beta version?

Your understanding of what a Mac firmware do is probably wrong, a Mac BootROM is responsible for get your Mac initialised and running before loading the OS, the moment the OS is loaded, the firmware basically fades away and then the OS have almost total control - this is a little different for T2 Macs, but the EFI firmware still gives control to BridgeOS/macOS.

Your problem is reportedly GPU driver related.
 

Aavishkar Raj Regmi

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May 22, 2020
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This crash should be fixed with 10.15.5 and the next security updates for 10.13.6/10.14.6. The GPU crashes on the 2015 Mac Portables in 10.15.4 and in 10.13.6 and 10.14.6 if you've installed the latest security updates. It has nothing to do with the firmware.
I experienced this problem when I updated from 10.15.3 to 10.15.4. But, when I downgraded the upgrades without any updates installed, the video editing apps are still not working. Except this everything went fine, no any freezes after the downgrade. But still when I start rendering in fcpx, the app crashes. Also Imovie and other video editng apps. How could possibly the error be persistent even after downgrade if it was not for the firmware?
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Your understanding of what a Mac firmware do is probably wrong, a Mac BootROM is responsible for get your Mac initialised and running before loading the OS, the moment the OS is loaded, the firmware basically fades away and then the OS have almost total control - this is a little different for T2 Macs, but the EFI firmware still gives control to BridgeOS/macOS.

Your problem is reportedly GPU driver related.
Thanks. If its not for the problem in the upgraded firmware, why didnot downgrading fixed my problem with the video editing app? Might be because the firmware that upgraded after 10.15.5 didnot work with the video acceleration tool of the lower OS? Any help? Its been almost 2 month since I last edited my video. Sad life!
 

tsialex

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I experienced this problem when I updated from 10.15.3 to 10.15.4. But, when I downgraded the upgrades without any updates installed, the video editing apps are still not working. Except this everything went fine, no any freezes after the downgrade. But still when I start rendering in fcpx, the app crashes. Also Imovie and other video editng apps. How could possibly the error be persistent even after downgrade if it was not for the firmware?
[automerge]1590331627[/automerge]

Thanks. If its not for the problem in the upgraded firmware, why didnot downgrading fixed my problem with the video editing app? Might be because the firmware that upgraded after 10.15.5 didnot work with the video acceleration tool of the lower OS? Any help? Its been almost 2 month since I last edited my video. Sad life!
You can always upgrade your firmware to the 10.15.5DP4 version and check if changes anything for you.

BootROM downgrades are not possible, by the way, Apple removed any downgrade possibilities after ThunderStrike.
 

blackh0le

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macOS Big Sur 11.0 Beta 1 (20A4299v)

MacBookPro14,3 --> 207.0.0.0.0
 

tsialex

Contributor
Jun 13, 2016
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Complete list of EFI versions as 10.15.6 DP3 build 19G60d.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1292.0.0.0.0
IM14,1146.0.0.0.0
IM14,2146.0.0.0.0
IM14,3146.0.0.0.0
IM14,4204.0.0.0.0
IM15,1235.0.0.0.0
IM16,1236.0.0.0.0
IM16,2236.0.0.0.0
IM17,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,3428.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.140.50.0.0
MB10,1428.0.0.0.0
MB8,1190.0.0.0.0
MB9,1428.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1264.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1122.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1195.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1262.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2286.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4199.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1192.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1233.0.0.0.0
MM6,1286.0.0.0.0
MM7,1249.0.0.0.0
MP6,1137.0.0.0.0
 
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Complete list of EFI versions as 10.15.6 DP3 build 19G60d.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1292.0.0.0.0
IM14,1146.0.0.0.0
IM14,2146.0.0.0.0
IM14,3146.0.0.0.0
IM14,4204.0.0.0.0
IM15,1235.0.0.0.0
IM16,1236.0.0.0.0
IM16,2236.0.0.0.0
IM17,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,3428.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.140.50.0.0
MB10,1428.0.0.0.0
MB8,1190.0.0.0.0
MB9,1428.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1264.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1122.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1195.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1262.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2286.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4199.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1192.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1233.0.0.0.0
MM6,1286.0.0.0.0
MM7,1249.0.0.0.0
MP6,1137.0.0.0.0

The next beta of macOS Big Sur should bring these updates too. Currently my MBA is at 194.
 

Birkan

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Sep 11, 2011
130
106
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Complete list of EFI versions as 10.15.6 DP3 build 19G60d.

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1292.0.0.0.0
IM14,1146.0.0.0.0
IM14,2146.0.0.0.0
IM14,3146.0.0.0.0
IM14,4204.0.0.0.0
IM15,1235.0.0.0.0
IM16,1236.0.0.0.0
IM16,2236.0.0.0.0
IM17,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,1428.0.0.0.0
IM18,3428.0.0.0.0
IM19,11037.140.50.0.0
MB10,1428.0.0.0.0
MB8,1190.0.0.0.0
MB9,1428.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1264.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1122.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1195.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1262.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2286.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2162.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4199.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1192.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2428.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3428.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1233.0.0.0.0
MM6,1286.0.0.0.0
MM7,1249.0.0.0.0
MP6,1137.0.0.0.0
Wow, I wonder what's up with the jump from 207.0.0.0.0 to 428.0.0.0.0 on my MBP14,1. Did they rearchitect the whole boot rom or what :)
 

tommiy

macrumors 6502
Dec 11, 2015
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I have 14.2 and am wondering the same. Seems a massive change especially as you can not go backwards after install......need to wait to see peoples feedback on this one.
 
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