Looks like Apple is encrypting manufactured date from 2021. I used to check with irregular command in the past.
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Bought pre owned Macbook with small imperfection
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That sounds like a very good deal. And, as a bonus, someone else made it slightly imperfect, alleviating any anxiety you might have (I am projecting here 🤣) to ensure it remains pristine. That's why I love shopping for open box items, refurbished, or very lightly used. Good job!
Seems costly for an old chip, but I am not in your locale. The one dead pixel does not matter at all but you should care very much about how much RAM, which was not mentioned.
I bought a new M1 Pro 14” from apple 2 years back and it already had a permanent keyboard imprint and a few specks like the one you’re showing. The device was manufactured 6 months before I got it but I wonder if it’s actually refurbished which they passed off as new. I spoke to a few friends with the same computer and they have similar issues, so I think this is a pretty widespread problem.
I think you need to not look so closely. If it bothers you now it will bother you as long as you have it. I try to not even look if I get a good deal.
At the same time, in the US I bought an M1 16” MBP with 32GB of RAM and 1TB for $1000 with AppleCare+ and 11 cycles on the battery. The guy said he bought it for a YouTube channel but gave up and edited less than one video. I believed him as it was pristine.
But it wasn’t for me so for a business computer for employees it was a no brainer that if it had the scratch and dead pixel you speak of I wouldn’t have cared as I don’t have to look at it anyways. 🤣
If I bought it new from Apple, I would definitely ensure it was 100% perfect if I was going to use it or give it to an employee.
At the same time, in the US I bought an M1 16” MBP with 32GB of RAM and 1TB for $1000 with AppleCare+ and 11 cycles on the battery. The guy said he bought it for a YouTube channel but gave up and edited less than one video. I believed him as it was pristine.
But it wasn’t for me so for a business computer for employees it was a no brainer that if it had the scratch and dead pixel you speak of I wouldn’t have cared as I don’t have to look at it anyways. 🤣
If I bought it new from Apple, I would definitely ensure it was 100% perfect if I was going to use it or give it to an employee.
The base model 16" M1 Pro is 16GB. Which is more than enough for what I do.
So funny you say this as I was thinking the same thing. I don't feel the need to baby this thing since someone already "broke it in" in a way. I'm starting to actually prefer this used item over a perfect new one...
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For a 16 inch Pro I’d just live with it. That’s a killer price for that machine.
Good. As long as you forecast 16 GB as enough for what you will do for the life cycle of the box. What you do today really does not matter much. Apple's (IMO superb) Unified Memory Architecture means RAM is now being much more ubiquitously used, and the obvious-for-years move to AI also is indicative of likely higher RAM demands.
Odds are the Mac OS will make everything work under 16 GB RAM, but we buy to compute and it is generally poor planning to force sub-optimal operation by installing less than ideal RAM.
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That is, as you point out, the key to RAM decisions. For many people 16 or even 8 will be enough since they do not plan to use the box for anything more than today, espcially since that is how they have used their older Mac.
User do not often all of a sudden decide they want to render complex graphics after all they have done for years is surf the web, check emails and write a few letters.
OTOH, a graphics user or programmer may want to get more because teh demands on teh system may increase over time and they want to still have a capable box.
Nah, $1250 USD for a 16" Macbook M1 Pro is an excellent price especially in Canada.
Correct. I have an 8GB M1 Air and it's perfectly fine and assume it will be for years. Mind you all I do on it is use about 12 chrome tabs, Youtube, Plex, Very light photo editing.
UPDATE: Took it into Apple and it was no problem getting them to agree to put on a new display under warranty. They had one left in stock. Should be ready for pick up in 3 - 6 days. 👍
They also did a diagnostic and everything is running fine. Good to know since I bought it pre-owned.
They also did a diagnostic and everything is running fine. Good to know since I bought it pre-owned.
Last time i bought MBP off Craigslist, I asked the seller to meet at Apple Store. Walked out with AC and apple ran a diagnostic. Most folks think you need to buy new for Apple warranty.
I have that same machine and it’s perfectly fine for what I do with it. All I really do on it is spreadsheets (Numbers), documents (Pages), Notes, Reminders, Calendar and light web browsing. I don’t even install 3rd party stuff. 8 GB RAM is fine.
It's not that old, the M1 Pro was introduced on October the 18th, 2021. So, it will be three years old in October 2024.
Got it back in 24hrs. Pretty satisfied. New screen looks great and they were very helpful at the Apple store. Looks like they charge $1200CAD for this display out of warranty. Ouch! 🤕
I appreciate everyones advice!
Getting it replaced through warranty is exactly what I was going to recommend as I was reading through the thread. That's a good deal and only possible because Apple treats warehouse deal Macs as brand new. That's a nice gesture for the customer.
I am curious: What's the date say above the cycle count in coconut battery? That's the battery manufacture date which should be close to the device manufacture date.
And one last thing, in coconut battery, there is a mAh value for "full charge capacity" and one for "design capacity". What do those two say?
I am curious: What's the date say above the cycle count in coconut battery? That's the battery manufacture date which should be close to the device manufacture date.
And one last thing, in coconut battery, there is a mAh value for "full charge capacity" and one for "design capacity". What do those two say?
Manufactured 2022 so the entire Mac was manufactured 2022 and likely sold 2022. This Mac still has the original Apple battery in it that it was first sold in. I can see that because battery health is somewhat degraded, if it was 6 months old or newer then the full charge capacity should be more (yes, more) than the design capacity.
This perfectly tracks with the device being about 1-1.5 years old.
My best guess is that since Amazon is lenient with accepting returns for smaller issues the original buyer bought it from Amazon late 2022 to early 2023, then at the beginning of 2024 that stuck pixel issue happened and since it was over a year old the original buyer couldn't go to Apple for it since it was outside the 1 year warranty.
They contacted Amazon who took the device back for a full refund because that's what they actually do sometimes. So yeah Apple basically warrantied this device twice, for a year in 2023 and now another year again. They shouldn't have, but they didn't know when it was first sold since the original buyer didn't ever contact Apple for any warranty claims so Apple never saw the original first invoice.
From these findings I suggest you use the savings to buy AC+ with, not now but right in the last week of the 60 day period for adding AC+. The Mac was manufactured nearly 2 years ago so it's really not new anymore. With AC+ you'd be covered until about July 2027 and by that time the battery will be 5 years old. Chances are decent that even if you don't ever need AC+ that battery will qualify for a free replacement through AC+ due to its age. Which means AC+ pays for itself with how expensive battery replacements are.
(The battery says 100% health but that's only because they come with 104-105% out of the box so the battery has been degrading slowly even if the health info does not reflect that.)
I don't always recommend AC+ and for such a good deal cheap-ish low price it usually does not make sense to get AC+ as it is too expensive in relation to the price of the device. But this one's 2 years old and issues start to become more common after 3-4 years. Since the Mac is already 2 years old AC+ would cover it for a 3rd, 4th and 5th year. And possibly a 6th one if you extend AC+ for another year after the 3 year coverage expires.
I hope this makes sense. If you don't wanna spend more money I certainly understand that. Keep in mind that if you ever have an issue with this device without warranty it will end up somewhat like this:
Wow very interesting. I really appreciate the advice. Seriously considering AppleCare 👍
One thing to note, I don't think the person had it for a year since it had only 2 cycles on it when I bought it. Must have just been sitting at Amazons warehouse for a long time.