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Reggaenald

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The calculator is in Spotlight search.
With limited functionality though. You can't use M or anything like that and you'd need to know how to type certain symbols off your head.
Calculator App means a dedicated piece of software with a reasonable UI, which Spotlight certainly isn't.
 

Pandyone

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I’ve attached two images with the home bar cutting through text when I was browsing

You do know you can scroll down and show the text in the middle of the screen?

Jokes aside, I hope there can be an option to hide it. But it looks better than Android phones and permanent navigation buttons on the screen (or the alternative to have a similar bar as iPhone - very buggy and inconsistent on Android).
 
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Lcgiv

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I personally don’t think there has ever needed to be a bar displayed escape on the original iPhone X (maybe XS) as people learned the UI. That said if you’re staring at the home bar the whole time, you might be doing it wrong… I’m usually more interested in what’s happening on the other areas of the display.
 

Warped9

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I have seen a very thin black bar appear intermittently when scrolling, but then it disappears after a second or two. Usually I almost never notice it or pay attention to it. And I have an iPad Pro 10.5.
 
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darngooddesign

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It's necessary for someone learning iOS, but does one think that someone with several years of iOS experience really needs to see that line to know how to return to the Home Screen or App Switcher? Control Center has a line only on the lock screen, but everyone knows how to access Control Center everywhere else. Notification Center doesn't even have a line, but we all know how to access it. We can also access the app switcher from the home screen despite there not being a line. Apple's use of lines to indicate slide in gestures is inconsistent.

But to the point, considering that iOS doesn't actually need a visible line to recognize slide in gestures, why is a visible line a necessity?
 
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darngooddesign

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...Neither does my Samsung Galaxy phone. It’s unacceptable.
FYI, be careful upgrading to the latest version of Android, because that line and gesture have been copied by Google. Might be easier to hide on Android tho.

samsung-galaxy-s22-22-20220224-header-scaled.jpg
 
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Reggaenald

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It's necessary for someone learning iOS, but does one think that someone with several years of iOS experience really needs to see that line to know how to return to the Home Screen or App Switcher? Control Center has a line only on the lock screen, but everyone knows how to access Control Center everywhere else. Notification Center doesn't even have a line, but we all know how to access it. We can also access the app switcher from the home screen despite there not being a line. Apple's use of lines to indicate slide in gestures is inconsistent.

But to the point, considering that iOS doesn't actually need a visible line to recognize slide in gestures, why is a visible line a necessity?
It’s isn’t. For most people at least.
OP states he didn’t know this would be there or that it’s a thing in iPhones. He comes from a Home Button iPad and according to him he couldn’t figure out what the bar was supposed to do and why it sticks around even when browsing through apps.
If he can’t follow the simple instructions that are presented when setting up his iPad he probably wouldn’t figure out how to go Home if his old button was gone and there would be nothing on the screen to do so.
The Bar isnt necessary for people that know it’s there and I’d appreciate the option to turn it off. But OP was new to this concept so, had he only spent some time thinking about it and paid attention when setting up the iPad, he might have appreciated the visual cue.
 
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headlessmike

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Some apps are able to hide the bar, so in the end it's the developers that decide whether or not the home bar is visible in their UI or not. Clearly most developers have opted to keep it in most of the time for one reason or another.
 

thedreamking

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Thanks for understanding.
If some people want it for navigation, then fine. But Apple couldn’t come up with anything less intrusive? (I’ve attached two images with the home bar cutting through text when I was browsing).
They made the Home Button transparent. But not this? Makes no sense. I showed it to a friend who was instantly ‘is that a fault’? He couldn’t believe it. Not offering the option to disable it was shortsighted. I’ll just have to hope they’ll do something about it in the future.

I've been on an older iPhone for a few years and an older iPad Pro as well - I had no idea this was a thing on the most recent devices and OS. My MBP has a notch, and that doesn't bother me because it doesn't directly interfere with viewing things. This, on the other hand, seems much harder to ignore to me. The way it cuts through text near the bottom of the screen is pretty awful. I can't believe there's no option to disable or hide it. That is just a terrible design decision. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to update my iPad Pro in a couple years they've moved past this.
 

thedreamking

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Does anyone replying here happen to use Procreate on a newer iPad? Can you confirm if this bar is displayed while using the app?
 

thedreamking

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It shows up in their own ads -

https://procreate.art/ipad
Ah, hadn't been on their site in a while, thanks.

It looks like they have it at least semi-transparent in the app so it's not as drastic as the web browsing example posted earlier in the thread. Doesn't look like it'd be too noticeable or distracting while working in the app so that's a huge relief to me personally. Thanks!
 

Shanghaichica

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I was curious about why my bar was white and not black on all my devices. So I abused myself for a second and out my iPhone into light mode and it was a black bar.
 

bondr006

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Set up my new 12.9 Ipad Pro and initially thought it was faulty. An unsightly black bar at the bottom of my screen haunted me from app to app and when browsing.
Now I wish it was a fault. At least it could be repaired. On googling it I find it’s impossible to disable as it’s built in to the system.
Had I known about this prior to purchase I’d have saved my pennies. Who at Apple thought this was a good idea?
I’ll be returning it. With the magic keyboard. 1st world problem but I’m really annoyed about it.
I guess it’s just me because I’d never heard of it before.
And here I thought I was OCD.:p Yeah, there should be a way to turn the navigation bar off once you know the OS. That being said, I love my iPP and will not be returning or selling it. After 4 months, I don't even notice the bar anymore.

Edit: The bar goes away when watching full screen video. I will check through all my apps and see if any of those hide the bar. Report back later.
 
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tornadowrangler

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Have to agree there's no good reason why it there isn't an option to hide it.

I also don't think it's a deal breaker for most people. Anyone that returns it for that reason probably didn't really need an iPad to begin with and would probably be happier with a MacBook.
 
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mcf1urry

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I've been on an older iPhone for a few years and an older iPad Pro as well - I had no idea this was a thing on the most recent devices and OS. My MBP has a notch, and that doesn't bother me because it doesn't directly interfere with viewing things. This, on the other hand, seems much harder to ignore to me. The way it cuts through text near the bottom of the screen is pretty awful. I can't believe there's no option to disable or hide it. That is just a terrible design decision. Hopefully by the time I'm ready to update my iPad Pro in a couple years they've moved past this.

I really wanted to ignore it but in the end I decided that it was too expensive to have to try that hard to tolerate it. It's amazing apart from that. So it's crap to have to return it. As I've said before if they eventually give you a way to disable it I'd definitely purchase again. ?
 
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macfacts

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Some apps are able to hide the bar, so in the end it's the developers that decide whether or not the home bar is visible in their UI or not. Clearly most developers have opted to keep it in most of the time for one reason or another.
"There's an app for that" so just wait for someone to make a always on top 1x1 pixel app that lets the user decide if the want the bar to be not shown.
 
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