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I'm always surprised Brave is not more popular. Yes, if you don't care about its crypto features, you "have to" manually hide a few features. But blocking YouTube ads out of the box is pretty nice. I pay for YouTube Premium, but I dread logging in because I don't want to make it even easier for Google to track my every move, so I only do that on the TV.

Although, I guess if Brave ever hits a certain popularity threshold, Google will find a way to break this feature.
 
Why do you assume I am worrying? and why do you downvote? My argument still holds - there being a list made all the difference. And Brave was also on top for me.
I'm downvoting for two reasons.
  1. The list is random, as already said. So Brave being on top for you is nil argument. You can't argue with position in a random listing.
  2. It's not an advertising. It's a fair competition thing. The EU DMA mandate. If anything, Safari being preinstalled is unfair competition in the browser segment. This equalizes the competition on the market, it's not an advertising and definitely not free advertising by Apple. Apple is Microsoft 2000s all over again with their Internet Explorer back in the days.
 
Installing alternative browsers was not hard and was easy as going to the App Store and clicking download.

I’d be interested in how many users retain using the app after a day or two. Also, I’d like to see how the browsers function on iOS without having to use WebKit and instead use their own backend rendering engine.
 
I think the bigger issue is the time period. 3 months? If the text here is accurate, and they saw as many as 10,000 daily installs preceding the start point here as their maximum… then we’re talking 10%. 1000 more than their historical max. Woo. Hoo. Maybe historically January and February were always lower months and all the other months for the prior 12 were at that 10k. We’ll never know based on the limited information in the graph.
 
I’d like a browser other than Safari with extensions that actually work but that functionality isn’t allowed.

I don’t know if this is something that is now allowed in the EU.

I can’t honestly see why it* isn’t just standard.
 
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To those who didn't notice: The chart is misleading, because the Y axis doest start at 0. Completely needless, since a 40% jump would still look impressive without such manipulation.

Is it manipulation? I don't see it that way. It's just a graph of download numbers. It doesn't start at zero because there are more than zero downloads.

Now what I'm interested to see is if the numbers stay high or fall back off.
 
I'm downvoting for two reasons.
  1. The list is random, as already said. So Brave being on top for you is nil argument. You can't argue with position in a random listing.
  2. It's not an advertising. It's a fair competition thing. The EU DMA mandate. If anything, Safari being preinstalled is unfair competition in the browser segment. This equalizes the competition on the market, it's not an advertising and definitely not free advertising by Apple. Apple is Microsoft 2000s all over again with their Internet Explorer back in the days.
Okay. 1. it's random. I had the argument because MR's screenshot also shows Brave on top. So that's that.

2. Do we know if it is a taxative list? Probably not, because there are other browsers that are not listed. Or is not only the order randomised but also the browsers itself?
 
Not an advertising at all. Rather an unfair competition, because Safari comes preinstalled.

Microsoft 2010 with its IE all over again.
There are definitely parallels, but MS had almost total market share of PCs at the time. iPhone has maybe 25-30% in the EU. Apple disallowing changes to the default browser was the real issue, not the pre-installation of Safari.

I would argue that every operating system should have a browser preinstalled. It's the gateway to everything else. You could argue that the app store solves that issue, but most users would be mystified if they didn't have a browser out of the box.
 
They should have labelled the graph “number of additional daily installs over January 15 baseline”. Then what is displayed would be the whole X axis. ;)
 
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There are definitely parallels, but MS had almost total market share of PCs at the time. iPhone has maybe 25-30% in the EU. Apple disallowing changes to the default browser was the real issue, not the pre-installation of Safari.

I would argue that every operating system should have a browser preinstalled. It's the gateway to everything else. You could argue that the app store solves that issue, but most users would be mystified if they didn't have a browser out of the box.
I'm not saying I disagree with you - but for EU 25-30% market share is definitely enough to be considered as gatekeeper and thus have to follow the DMA rules.

I personally don't see pushing the competition as a bad thing. Yes, this browser choice screen can be perceived as annoyance by some - but its shown only once and I believe it's worth it for the competition boost.
 
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