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ImAnAgent

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I have yet to own one of the new phones but I suspect I’ll be frustrated by this as well.
Probably not.

I resisted buying the X last year and instead bought a 8+ in April thinking it would last me another year. I couldn't resist and now it's been the best decision I every made. I bought a 512GB Max. Now when I try and use my Note 9, I'm trying to swipe and confused why it doesn't work. I've never had the accidental touches thing that the person above says they have. This is such an amazing pictures that I now own three 512GB XS Max, one for each of my three lines. All phones are unlocked.
 

Knowlege Bomb

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I have a XS and used a X since last October before getting it and I have never once had unintentional touch input on either.
 

davedvdy

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Utilizing the Hold Duration setting may be beneficial to the OP in this case.
The Hold Duration before a touch is recognized can be adjusted.

Settings>General>Accessibility>Touch Accommodations>Hold Duration. It starts with 0.10 seconds and can move up from there.
 
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The trouble with a phone w/ no bezels is that you're always accidentally triggering events that you did not intend to trigger--everything from turning the phone on to accidentally killing apps.

The all-screen phones are a UI mess.

https://www.reviewgeek.com/508/i-miss-smartphone-bezels-already/

https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...0990-no-more-bezel-phones-how-good-thing.html

Why would you link an Android chat room about bezels? That’s not even a source, it’s more like someone else’s opinion on a different tech site.
 
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Ralfi

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Don't understand the obsession with getting rid of bezels and 'chins'. Sounds to me like a case of form over function regardless of the cost.
How can you not understand this, after all the marketing & comparison photos of the Home Buttoned iPhones v Face ID iPhones?

Smaller form factor + bigger screen.

There is definitely as much, if not more function over form in it, for those with typical sized hands.

Now, if you’ve got smaller hands, I get how a 5.8” screen wouldn’t appeal, but to say you don’t understand why Apple et all are aiming for an all-screen frontage doesn’t make sense.
 
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MacLappy

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It took me slightly less than a week to adjust to the iPhone XR. Was accidentally touching parts of the screen in the beginning, during my initial transition over from an iPhone 7 plus.

Although it took some getting use to, I do find the larger screen in a smaller body a huge improvement over the older design.
 

kargurin

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Compared to the red strip on the mute 'on' this is a non-issue. How can anyone stand that? It ruins the color scheme of the phone. Change it to the color of the case or Apple will not see another cent from me. It's the last straw.
 

janeauburn

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Key report findings:

  • The benefits of larger screens through the removal of the bezel or edge to edge displays can obviously be found through displaying more content, legibility of text on the screen, on-screen multitasking and interaction with buttons on the screen.
  • But in turn, more physical effort and friction is required to operate the smartphone. Consumers may experience inadvertent activation of the display, additional extension of the thumb to be able to reach the bottom/top of the screen, having to adjust their grip to reach physical buttons on the device and, additional effort when trying to use the device one-handed when both on and off-screen multitasking.
  • Enabling users to customize how they prefer the virtual home button to work through actions such as 'always on' or swiping up, may be a good way to meet the needs for different tasks without compromising usability.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...se-ux-finds-strategy-analytics-300588260.html
 
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AttilaTheHun

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Been testing out an XS Max here for a couple of weeks. While the thing has nice points, the lack of bezels is actually annoying. I agree with this reviewer wholeheartedly.

There's actually some stress involved with trying to hold the stupid phone just right in order not to accidentally trigger some unintended response. For example, I can't tell you how many times I have accidentally triggered the bluetooth adapter screen because my music apps (like Spotify) have a line called "xxx Adapter" in green at the bottom where the bezel used to be! So annoying!

The phone has a bad case of PMS all the time: it's so darn touchy.

the NOTCH is a bigger problem iPhone sell lost 30% because of it more and more people are staying on iPhone 6S, 7, and 8 then before
 
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turbineseaplane

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The benefits of larger screens through the removal of the bezel or edge to edge displays can obviously be found through displaying more content, legibility of text on the screen, on-screen multitasking and interaction with buttons on the screen.

This is the crux of my issue with Apple only making larger phones though.

The way that I, and many others, use phones doesn't require any more content on the screen, I can read it fine and I don't need to "multi-task" on my phone.

I fully recognize that some people do use their phones that way but I just wish Apple wouldn't abandon those of us that do not and simply want a super light/small/portable/pocketable iOS device.
 
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deuxani

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the NOTCH is a bigger problem iPhone sell lost 30% because of it more and more people are staying on iPhone 6S, 7, and 8 then before

Hahahaha, yes it was the notch ;) It wasn't the $999 and above price tag, it wasn't the fact that the smartphone market it saturated, it wasn't the speedbump iOS 12 gave to older phones, it wasn't the fact that new phones basically bring only little new functions.... no it was the notch! :)

Nobody cares about the notch, only some vocal minority on Internet forums.
 

StaceyMJ86

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I have had a X since launch day last year and I love the smaller bezels. I still have my 7+ and hate the large bezels on it. The notch don’t bother me and the only time I accidentally press anything, is when my fingers on the volume button and home button while putting my phone in my pocket and I sometimes accidentally take a screenshot. That still don’t make me hate the all screen and bigger screen size.
 

ericwn

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the NOTCH is a bigger problem iPhone sell lost 30% because of it more and more people are staying on iPhone 6S, 7, and 8 then before

Unlikely.
Go out and start a poll to see what annoys people more. A 1000$ price tag or the notch. You will be surprised by the findings ;)
 
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ksec

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I don't think the problem is No Bezel. The problem is these customers want an easy to use Single Handed devices.

And even the 5.8" ( Which was previously the 4.7" Phone Size ) is too big for them.

Hence there is a need for an All Screen iPhone SE size Xs. Which should measure about 4.7" in Edge to Edge design.
 

AttilaTheHun

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Unlikely.
Go out and start a poll to see what annoys people more. A 1000$ price tag or the notch. You will be surprised by the findings ;)

I am not dismiss what you say I am sure the both reasons are playing the roll
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Hahahaha, yes it was the notch ;) It wasn't the $999 and above price tag, it wasn't the fact that the smartphone market it saturated, it wasn't the speedbump iOS 12 gave to older phones, it wasn't the fact that new phones basically bring only little new functions.... no it was the notch! :)

Nobody cares about the notch, only some vocal minority on Internet forums.

that nobody is 30% of the buyers that still keeping there old iPhone and the same time saving $1000
 

44267547

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Unlikely.
Go out and start a poll to see what annoys people more. A 1000$ price tag or the notch. You will be surprised by the findings ;)

On the flip side, On tech sites, the notch was labeled one of the worst ‘abominations’ to happen to the iPhone. I’m willing to believe for some, if the notch was eliminated, the $1000 price point would be easier to manage, given how some refuse to support the XR/XS because it exists. It really depends on someone’s mindset, but most ‘Non-Tech’ consumers wouldn’t care about the notch, as they would the price point.
 
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ericwn

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On the flip side, On tech sites, the notch was labeled one of the worst ‘abominations’ to happen to the iPhone. I’m willing to believe for some, if the notch was eliminated, the $1000 price point would be easier to manage, given how some refuse to support the XR/XS because it exists. It really depends on someone’s mindset, but most ‘Non-Tech’ consumers wouldn’t care about the notch, as they would the price point.

That’s exactly what I wanted to bring across. On a non-tech site the notch would be of minor importance. Not saying it’s pretty though, same goes for the camera bump thingy.
 

tt061282

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You could have bought the XR with bezels. Return it

Lmao. This is hilarious. The bezels on the Xʀ are barely different. Most certainly not what the OP means.

OP I understand where you’re coming from. However, you’ll probably never get your wish. The most Bezels you’ll see is what is on the Xʀ ... I’m afraid.
 
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