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The fact this is even a topic of discussion is why I am now avoiding Apple hardware. The fact one needs a "configurator" in order to replace an SSD is just mind boggling to me.
I just ignore their full on ******** T2 slots. As if it's not even part of the computer. I just install my own card and storage and never look back. You can now use a 61TB Solidigm U.2 drive and boot from it and just ignore that apple outdated space limited bulls*t.
We bought a home color laster printer last week. Took some time to get it to print to. On our Macs. About the same time to print with Windoze. For digital tape based video uploading, I reverted to an old MacBook pro 13" 2011. Installed mountain lion. Went to print. A box jumped up and show the printers on line - I selected the new printer, knowing its software would not be in Mountain Lion. But 5 seconds later - I kid you not - it worked things out somehow, and connected and then it printed fine. Even included the B/W only tick box and the duplex option in the simple print floating mini page on the screen. Try that with today's complex apple OSs.
It's bazaar how Apple have made previous simple essentials difficult. Both in hardware and software and connectivity. You know - the reasons why Apple used to be better.
The reason I like apple is its communication between devices, and because I know its software. I used to like its OS too, and there is still some of that left.
I guess Ai will remove the need for a simple OS like System 9 used to be.
It's bazaar how Apple have made previous simple essentials difficult. Both in hardware and software and connectivity. You know - the reasons why Apple used to be better.
The reason I like apple is its communication between devices, and because I know its software. I used to like its OS too, and there is still some of that left.
I guess Ai will remove the need for a simple OS like System 9 used to be.
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I was setting up an enterprise CMS today on the 14.6 Mac Pro unit. It’s a fairly heavy running system but I was surprised how fast it ran doing the setup and upgrades.
Normally you have to watch the logs for 10 minutes while it processes the upgrades but on the 28 core machine it was really fast.
Normally you have to watch the logs for 10 minutes while it processes the upgrades but on the 28 core machine it was really fast.
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I presume you were running it on linux. I'm retired, but running a content management system on an old mac seems foolhardy to me!
I read that ... 60 years.Maybe some interesting reading here:
What is the lifespan of my SSD? - Apple Community
discussions.apple.com
Well I used my Macbook pro 2011 for 3 years, if that ... I bought a 2010 5,1 when Apple introduced the 2012 5,1. Then bought a Macbook Air. The 2011 Macbook Pro had a faulty touch pad in 2013. I bought an Air. When I restarted the 2011 3 weeks ago it's SSD had failed. So it worked for just 3 years, and failed while left dormant. An Apple factory installed one.
The winchester drive old story of don't turn that SE 30 Mac off ... because its been turned and running continually for 15 years, and if you turn it off, the drive's bearings could fail and it won't restart - like our other one did.
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It's a local development instance - and the latest version of Sonoma is hardly old.
It runs faster than the other dev instances on newer ASI macs which are also fairly high spec.
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we need a 24P+ core ASi machine. The M2 Ultra isn’t enough which caps at 16P cores.
Putting in one of the required updates normally takes about 10-15min for it to run and you watch a massive log file to determine when it has actually finished (the log will have no more entries added) then shut down the instance and restart it from the terminal.
On mine it took about 5 minutes to do that. That was a nice surprise.
Maybe some interesting reading here:
What is the lifespan of my SSD? - Apple Community
SSD lifetime is based on a number of factors including TBW, age, etc. The lifetime number is closer to 10 years not 60.
The most recent estimates put the age limit for SSDs around 10 years – though the average SSD lifespan is shorter. A joint study between Google and the University of Toronto tested SSDs over a multi-year period. It was found that the age of the SSD was the primary determinant of when an SSD stopped working.
SSD Lifespan: How Long do SSDs Really Last?
Ontrack discusses SSDs, physical faults, malfunctioning controller and storage chips, and hazards of recovering data with data recovery software.
Makes sense. Its close to criminal and they certainly planned to fail. Few notebooks these days do not have a spare slot for a solid state drive, or at least the drive is replaceable.
Thanks to all the info on this thread, I decided to order a 2019 Mac Pro 7,1 16-core with a 2 TB SSD, 96GB RAM and a Radeon Pro 580X.
Some quick observations coming from a 5,1 with OCLP and OS 12
-The case design is a work of art.
-It really quiet except the Apple Startup Chime is way louder than my 5,1
-Strange to still have the 580X as I also have one in my 5,1. I will upgrade it soon.
-Nice to have Airdrop and Airplay working again.
-I had the HDD cage 3D printed. Will install tomorrow and post some photos.
Some quick observations coming from a 5,1 with OCLP and OS 12
-The case design is a work of art.
-It really quiet except the Apple Startup Chime is way louder than my 5,1
-Strange to still have the 580X as I also have one in my 5,1. I will upgrade it soon.
-Nice to have Airdrop and Airplay working again.
-I had the HDD cage 3D printed. Will install tomorrow and post some photos.
Bigger speakers 😛.
Enjoy the 7,1 it’s a great machine built for professionals unlike the 14,8 which was rushed to complete the ASi transition.
What condition it was in?
For a GPU you can probably use either an RX6900 reference version (needs to be correct length to fit) or maybe the W6800 32GB Radeon Pro (the blue coloured PC card) if you really need the 32GB VRAM. It also has 6 mini display ports if I remember right:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/workstations/radeon-pro/w6800.html
6x @ 5120x2880px (5K), 2x @ 7680x4320px (8K) according to AMD. 10.5" (267 mm) length and double slot size.
I was lucky with the second one I got, "Excellent" meant almost perfect condition, just one tiny little scratch. It is doing the job it needs to do very well.
I got the grade B from iPower. Surprised at how good it is. There are 2 small scratches on it but not noticeable from 5 feet away. Good packaging and quick shipping. It was really clean and the inside is mint.
Apple care until March 2025 was a bonus
Thanks for the info on the GPU. I was thinking RX6800 but still need to read up on it.
Apple care until March 2025 was a bonus
Thanks for the info on the GPU. I was thinking RX6800 but still need to read up on it.
How did that work out???
Must check with mine.
I couldn’t believe that iPower was able to get a new W6800X Duo out of Apple for me.
I believe Apple Care is tied to the Serial Number. I'm assuming it carries over if there's time left.
I just checked and my 28 core dual W6800X machine is Feb 2025. So not bad. My other machine goes much further.
Australia never has them anyway: https://www.apple.com/au/shop/refurbished/mac
DE store has the M2 versions at huge prices: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/refurbished/mac/mac-pro
The days of the Mac Pro that the user can upgrade are finished. There are some clever folks here but unless someone can find some ways to open the machines up to newer GPUs then it's all over and done.
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Still chugging along. Now Sonoma / Opencore 1.5.0, no more force quit on Pro Tools either.