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StaceyMJ86

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Thanks for the feedback guys. Do you think 2019 iphones will keep the X/XS overall design (form/camera/notch). Maybe I sould do a poll and see what everyone thinks...

I think the 2019 iPhones, will have the same design (form, camera and notch), but maybe a slightly smaller notch. I highly doubt they will release a redesign next year. If you already had a X, I would say waiting until next year would be easy, but now that I think about it, upgrading now to the 2018 iPhones wouldn’t be a bad idea. I don’t think much will change with the 2019 iPhones.
 

shinkansenwarrior

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I’m in the same boat.
Happy 6S owner with new battery. I am considering down the road an XR...maybe 2019.
It actually felt pretty good in my hand after trying it out and my hands are not so big. What I am holding out for is a possible bump in screen res to 400+ppi to make it compelling.
But that’s me...I believe patience brings rewards.
 

TheIntruder

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I have a 6+ with a battery that's actually in pretty decent shape (according to Coconut Battery). I have an appointment later this week to have it replaced.

That was going to be my plan, until Apple doubled the trade-in value to $200. It still may be.

I've been mulling whether to replace the 6+, and whether to go with the XR or XS.

My aim is to get something smaller, and hopefully something more reliable in Face ID. For whatever reason, Touch ID has never worked that well for me, and each time it says "Try Again," it annoys me. Not being able to simply shove the phone in some pockets has also resulted in my carrying it externally, like when driving, and forgetfully leaving it behind in the car. Been lucky enough not to have it taken in a smash and grab.

Logic, and the lower price made the XR the favored candidate initially. But upon closer examination, it's not really that much smaller than the 6+, slightly shorter, but pretty much the same width.

Then the surprising thing -- with the smaller screen, I knew the XS has fewer points and displays less content than the XR, and requires more scrolling. But, the text on the XS is actually slightly larger, making it better for aging eyes. Not just on Safari and web content, but also UI elements in various apps. The much-harped about sharpness is minor in my view.

I can use the XS with one hand. The XR not so much, and definitely not if wearing a case.

If Apple had made an XR with a 5.8" screen, it would have been an easy decision. But, the decision will probably come down to keeping the 6+ or getting an XS.

I don't think there will be any major changes to the 2019 phones. The design is probably locked, or close to it by now, and Ming The Analyst has already chimed in saying that it's going to be status quo. Apple no longer feels the pressure, and can now play it safe, making the leaps and bounds less frequent. (That, and I also think Ive has run out of ideas...or motivation) The smartphone is also a mature product now, marked by incremental improvement.

The XS/M has only been available now for ~90 days, and if Apple sticks to the traditional schedule, the 2019s are ~270 days away. Not around the corner.

Despite what Qualcomm and the Telco Cartel would have people believe, 5G is not going to be a real factor in 2019, 2020, or maybe even 2021, which also gives them plenty of time to devise and implement a business model that will put users at a further disadvantage, because it's 5G(!). It's so fast, you can now burn through your data allotment faster, and get throttled faster, but we have a solution to that...for an additional fee.

I see no reason to wait, so it's a matter of whether I can be brave like Phil Schiller, and work up the "courage" spend $1000 on a phone. At least it should last a few years.
 
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Zorori

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See if you can track down a cheap used X. I picked up one in Akihabara for $700, flawless apart from a few tiny scratches near the lightning port -- and it's not like you look at that part of the phone. Keep it in good condition and when the time comes you can trade in for the 2019 model.
 

alpi123

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Am I the only one who thinks Apple is repeating its phone cycles? What I mean is:

iPhone 6 and iPhone X (3 years apart) - redesign
iPhone 6s and iPhone Xs (3 years apart) - internal changes (maybe we should mention the camera specs bump too?, biometrics gen 2, new color, slight cosmetic change: S on the back and new antenna lines)
iPhone 7 and iPhone XI? (3 years apart) - still no redesign but new features possibly in software
iPhone X and iPhone XII? (3 years apart) - redesign, possibly no notch

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a redesign next year but I will wish for one.
 
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MattMJB0188

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I think he wants help, not a bad decision.

If he did what I recommended, he would have made one of the best decisions he could make.
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I'd recommend getting the R or the XZ right now

Why isn't anyone recommending the iPhone 8??? A shame that this phone is cast in the shadows when its so much better than the new ones. No reception issues, no bending issues, no ugly notch, and you get a home button. Its a win win.
 
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Ffosse

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The XR is better than the 8 in so many ways, not just specifications but aesthetically too. Who wants a home button these days when it's all Face ID.
 
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cableguy84

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The XR is better than the 8 in so many ways, not just specifications but aesthetically too. Who wants a home button these days when it's all Face ID.
Because touch ID is superior to face ID.
XR doesnt have 3D touch. Which leaves the processors, there’s not a lot of difference between a11 and a12. A11 is a very capable chip.
 

Ffosse

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Face ID is the future; there's a reason Apple got rid of Touch ID across its range. 3D Touch was a gimmick to begin with plus there's the battery superiority of the XR which is better even than my XS Max.

And I wouldn't want 1 year old tech at this stage, nor would I give up a better camera
 

cableguy84

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Face ID is the future; there's a reason Apple got rid of Touch ID across its range. 3D Touch was a gimmick to begin with plus there's the battery superiority of the XR which is better even than my XZ Max.
I don’t care whether Apple thinks it’s the future or not. Touch ID is still a better system, so i will be keeping my 8 plus for a while to take advantage of it.
As far as battery life it’s not a great concern , i have to charge my 8 plus once a day which is no big deal.
 

Ffosse

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I don’t care whether Apple thinks it’s the future or not. Touch ID is still a better system, so i will be keeping my 8 plus for a while to take advantage of it.
As far as battery life it’s not a great concern , i have to charge my 8 plus once a day which is no big deal.
Oh, yes, those fiddly wired connections - no thanks. I'll keep my R and my XS Max.
 

sartrekid

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Oct 30, 2014
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Do you like the design of the iPhone Xs/Xs Max? If so, then get it now.

The performance of the current phones are more than (nearly) anyone needs or uses at this time, thus I doubt the next generation of the iPhone will have a significant performance gain over the current gen.

I do think that Apple will redesign the the hardware, however. I doubt we'll get the same design again in 2019. The notch might go or become much smaller, and I could imagine the finger print sensor to return (under the glass display). All mere speculation, obviously.
 

I7guy

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Gotta be in it to win it
If he did what I recommended, he would have made one of the best decisions he could make.
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Why isn't anyone recommending the iPhone 8??? A shame that this phone is cast in the shadows when its so much better than the new ones. No reception issues, no bending issues, no ugly notch, and you get a home button. Its a win win.
iphone 8 is a great phone. Want bezels or not. Oled or not. Notch, reception issues, face id I'm not sure people make decisions on those. I know I didn't when I got the max, the reason ended up being screen real estate. (I was aware of the reception issue thread and in the event there were issues I know I have 14 days to return it)
 

MattMJB0188

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iphone 8 is a great phone. Want bezels or not. Oled or not. Notch, reception issues, face id I'm not sure people make decisions on those. I know I didn't when I got the max, the reason ended up being screen real estate. (I was aware of the reception issue thread and in the event there were issues I know I have 14 days to return it)

So why even put yourself through the bother of worrying whether or not you'll have reception issues with the XS? The 8's design may not be new, but its very good and mature. Maybe next year Apple will have tweaked the X design and fix some of the annoyances now that people just "accept" so they can justify their $1500 device.
 

I7guy

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So why even put yourself through the bother of worrying whether or not you'll have reception issues with the XS? The 8's design may not be new, but its very good and mature. Maybe next year Apple will have tweaked the X design and fix some of the annoyances now that people just "accept" so they can justify their $1500 device.
I wanted the screen real estate and dual lens camera. Why wait to use a "new and improved" phone, when my sense is the upgrade is going to be similar to the 6s to 7.

There aren't really any annoyances with the max other than still getting used to the size.
 
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jwolf6589

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I know this might have been raised many times before but here it goes...

My iPhone 6Plus has been a champion surviving all this time, but I feel that it's time to upgrade. I can still wait till 2019 but hey it's Christmas so I'm considering my options ;)

I can get the iPhone X for $820 or the XS for $1,050 where I live, or wait till 2019 if the rumors indicate that it will be worth it.

As you noticed, I don't upgrade often, so I want to make sure I get a good enough deal. What do you guys recommend?

Wait... Apple may make a phone with both face and touch ID in the near future.
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Wait. 5G will make today's phones seem old very quickly.

Why? 4G is plenty fast for my needs so don't know why I would need 5G.
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Because touch ID is superior to face ID.
XR doesnt have 3D touch. Which leaves the processors, there’s not a lot of difference between a11 and a12. A11 is a very capable chip.

I agree. I prefer Touch ID.
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Since you don't upgrade often, get the most you can afford now so it will last. That would be the XS. Cell networks are going 5G and Apple may have stated they won't have a 5G phone until 2020. That could be the next time to upgrade for you if you desired faster internet connection speeds.

4G is plenty fast for my needs. Does FaceTime fast, searches the web fast, and such. I dont know why I would need 5G.
 
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Kram Sacul

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If he did what I recommended, he would have made one of the best decisions he could make.
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Why isn't anyone recommending the iPhone 8??? A shame that this phone is cast in the shadows when its so much better than the new ones. No reception issues, no bending issues, no ugly notch, and you get a home button. Its a win win.

Again with the comedy. So much better? You might as well be recommending the 7 Plus. The 8 Plus has solid internals but the design was ancient before it was even released.
 
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