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Buy Nexus 7 next week or wait for Mini 2
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Too bad they have to make the mini because the brain of the company is already gone. Jobs would be able to battle low cost android tablet with the original 9.7 Ipad no problem but Cook took the easy road and follow the market. Mini shouldn't even exist in the first place, if they were to make 7.9 inch device, they should at least place it in different product segment. Call it Ipad gaming or sumthing. They make it the same product just smaller, not they can't upgrade too much on both devices.
You make it sound like Asus is the only oem with backlight bleed or first run issues. There's plenty of retina ipad threads with backlight bleed issues and hardware problems. You just don't see them front and center now because iPad sales have slowed to a crawl and the forums are over run by Nexus threads like this one. Am I not telling the truth?
You're going to see the same issues when the next iPad is released. No manufacturer can have every product 100% perfect out of the box. Otherwise we would not need return policies and warranties.
My nexus 7 has no backlight bleed what so ever. I am extremely thrilled with the display. The colors are fantastic, and the view angles are extremely wide.
Wasn't there an email from Jobs that was released during one of those trials where he was the one that green lighted the 7.9" design?
Was there? i didn't know but still i think they kinda ruined it by naming the device "ipad mini" instead of whole other product line dedicated to gaming or sumthing.
Complaining about the iPad Mini seeming like something very not Steve Jobs-like, and then claiming that it should have been about gaming? Ha ha - when has Apple ever focused on gaming while Steve Jobs was leading the company, even when it seemed like they had the chance to?
We don't know what the 2nd-generation iPad Mini will feature. What this really comes down to is how much you can afford to wait. If you can wait, then it makes more sense to wait until you know what the specific comparisons will be. If you can't wait, the 2013 Nexus 7 looks to be incredibly nice. I can't dump my iPad Mini for it because I need some iOS apps that don't have Android equivalents, but assuming you don't have similar restrictions or care too much for the integration (which is another reason why I can't switch), then go for it.
That was very true for the 1st gen N7. According to forum impressions here and elswhere, the 2nd gen N7 appear to have a solid build quality.
That was very true for the 1st gen N7. According to forum impressions here and elswhere, the 2nd gen N7 appear to have a solid build quality.
I just returned my 32gb 7 v2. The screen was nice. Small amount of backlight bleed at the top but nothing too crazy and only noticeable on full brightness. My biggest worry was the top left corner was making a slight "pop" when slightly stressed. I didn't want to take the chance of it coming separated from the screen.
I will say that is one thing I like about Apple products. If you have an issue you just have to go to the Apple store and they swap it out. Everyone else you have to deal with shipping somewhere.
My other complaint is the apps for it are just not there compared to iPad yet. Some would not even work.
If you are on a tight budget then it could be good but I am going to wait for the upcoming iPad.
I honestly think that Nexus 7 can charge us on the 300 price point with what they offer in specs but to hang it around the 200-250 range might effect the build quality. U know, u want the cheaper gear u have to bear with the slight defect. Just like those who chose sansa clip over ipod, superb sound better price but flimsy plastic.
That also explain how google not even confident with their os and available apps. Im tired of those who said android apps is catching up to ios. Its still far far away. Or they would have fought the Ipad at same price point.
Agreed... I keep trying to switch but the iOS apps are just better. I am a big made in US guy so the Moto X is calling. I hope it can perform! I will say the phone app experience on Android is not as far apart as on the tablets.
Both are mostly nice
The Nexus 7 is truly a delight to use even if you're not deep into the Google ecosystem. For the price, it's almost a steal. You can easily get a used first gen 8 GB N7 on eBay for $120. Like any other product it has it's pros and cons but the pros easily tips the scales.
For the iPad Mini, I'd wait on the new Retina display. If Apple is going to charge you a premium price, then by George, you deserve a totally premium product. Unfortunately, my suspicions tell me they will erroneously wait until gen 3 to provide a retina capable display. I hope I'm wrong.
The Nexus 7 is truly a delight to use even if you're not deep into the Google ecosystem. For the price, it's almost a steal. You can easily get a used first gen 8 GB N7 on eBay for $120. Like any other product it has it's pros and cons but the pros easily tips the scales.
For the iPad Mini, I'd wait on the new Retina display. If Apple is going to charge you a premium price, then by George, you deserve a totally premium product. Unfortunately, my suspicions tell me they will erroneously wait until gen 3 to provide a retina capable display. I hope I'm wrong.
Anyway, seems Apple has leaked that it will indeed have retina to prevent people from jumping ship to Nexus.
That's so true. I find it a bit maddening that Apple chooses to milk the customer for every last dime and still give them bottom of the barrel, cheap low resolution displays. Especially after all the hype over the Retina display.
If not for Steve Jobs programming of the masses, Apple couldn't get away with such a con job.
"Cheap, low resolution display"? "Con job"? It's not retina-density, but the iPad Mini's screen is not bad. I'll be selling my Mini for a retina version when it's released, but I use this day in and day out for work and it gets the job done. It's well worth the money for me; hardly a "con job."
So let's flip it.
Samsung produces a 7" tablet with a 1024 x 768 resolution and charges $330.
Apple produces a 7" tablet with a 1920 x 1200 resolution and charges $230.
We both know what would happen. Samsung would get massive heat from the Apple believers for charging so much for so little. It's as simple as that. One of the most important aspects of any phone / tablet / computer is it's display. That's what we look at every moment we are using it.
At a whopping $330 I don't think Samsung would enjoy the sales it is now.
And make NO mistake, I'm just as big of a sucker as anyone else, I bought an iPad mini the moment they were released.
So let's flip it.
Samsung produces a 7" tablet with a 1024 x 768 resolution and charges $330.
Apple produces a 7" tablet with a 1920 x 1200 resolution and charges $230.
We both know what would happen. Samsung would get massive heat from the Apple believers for charging so much for so little. It's as simple as that. One of the most important aspects of any phone / tablet / computer is it's display. That's what we look at every moment we are using it.
At a whopping $330 I don't think Samsung would enjoy the sales it is now.
And make NO mistake, I'm just as big of a sucker as anyone else, I bought an iPad mini the moment they were released.
I think the extra $50-70 or so they were charging us on the IOS. Samsung can never make it work with a 7" 330 tablet because they also use cheap plastic for most of their device even flagship model. Reason mini selling so well is because it runs apps smoothly. No one would buy a plastic tablet cost 330 and don't even have dedicated apps made for.
Apple would be proud, you actually believe what you just wrote. The well worn plastic excuse is completely irrelevant. Side by side with my iPad mini the quality is every bit as good. But Apple has you and thousands conned into thinking if it's not aluminum it's inferior. Smooth? Obviously you've never touched a Nexus 7.2. Between that comment and the refrain "it just works" I'd have to say Apples greatest accomplishment is influencing their worshipers to be evangelists.