Since the other differences between the iPad-10 and iPad-Air don't matter as much, which do you prioritize more, Pencil 2 or Landscape Camera? If it's the former, don't forget to look at refurbished previous generation iPad Airs.
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iPad Buying a 10th gen iPad?
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10gen iPad was a good choice for your mother, since she doesn't use the pencil and the price is very decent.
But I don't recommend you to get a iPad Air because it doesn't have ProMotion and it is painful get used to 60fps. A discounted iPad Pro 2021/20 is better
Im talking about Apple Certified Refurbished. My friend bought from Apple Certified Refurbished, and all his apple products are bad.
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Could you expand on the difference between the iPad 10 and the iPad Air 5 not mattering much? I have been comparing, and the Air of course has the M1 chip and 8GB RAM.... but I know Apple's mobile devices function quite differently in that they don't need a ton of RAM as desktop devices might- should the 4GB be decent for years to come, with no real "hit" to performance, and high powered gaming being the only thing that will show any issue with the RAM or the slower processor?
Costco has the iPad 10 for $389 right now, and it is tempting to pick one up, though I was initially sure on getting the iPad Air 5 due to seemingly being future proof- on sale now for $499.
As the video says, the refurbished iPad was indistinguishible from new.... He had an issue with a Mac (which was promptly replaced, since these devices had warranties like new devices). And the issue was that they send him a demo unit, which happens very rarely and again, promptly replaced.
So, if anything this video shows that refurbished is basically just as good as new...
Your friend may claim that he has had bad luck with all Apple refurbished, other can claim they they had zero issues and/or had bad luck with new products....
The statistics of "your friend" is one person out of millions.... If you look on these forums you will see countless examples of people happy with their "good as new" Apple refurbished devices....
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Yeah, I’m a father, and literally nothing on your list would be affordable for me. What exactly is the point you’re trying to make?
I think the differences matter, and I would choose an M1-Air over the iPad-10, but it sounded like the OP didn't think they did enough to pick an M1 Air.
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+1 for considering battery replacement as an option. If your 10.5 Pro still fulfills your power-needs, getting a new battery will really add some legs. And it's a great device with a better 120hz ProMotion screen / speakers than the new Air. Only potential detraction is the older design language / home button. I actually did this not too long ago with my 10.5 Pro (that I had given to my kid to be her primary iPad when I got my 2018 11" iPP). Will bring a lot more life and longevity for my kid.
It's only $99 as long as the Battery Health is showing <80%. Unfortunately iPadOS doesn't have a way to check health, but if you install Coconut Battery on a computer and connect your iPad to it, it can check it. Note, Apple's diagnostic tool that they'll use when you bring it in store is slightly different than Coconut Battery (usually higher by a few percentage points), but I'd be willing to bet your 10.5 Pro's battery health is likely well under 80% if you're noticing lower battery life issue. Mine was at 74% on Coconut Battery when I brought it in.
What do you do with your ipad ? Browsing , reading pdf and books ? Any of them will do
I don’t think the switch to 10.2 will be that noticeable , and it will allow you to save a lot of money, but you do you.
I genuinely don’t think you’ll benefit from the m1 air .
In fact I remember now , its battery is much worse that the regular ipad ! The iPad Air has the worse battery of all iPads, while the 9th and 10th have the best ( by far)
Definitely Get the 10th or 9th
I don’t think the switch to 10.2 will be that noticeable , and it will allow you to save a lot of money, but you do you.
I genuinely don’t think you’ll benefit from the m1 air .
In fact I remember now , its battery is much worse that the regular ipad ! The iPad Air has the worse battery of all iPads, while the 9th and 10th have the best ( by far)
Definitely Get the 10th or 9th
That last comment is interesting- is the physical size of the battery in the Air smaller than what's in the 10th gen regular iPad, or even the Pro- even though the devices overall have the same measurements?What do you do with your ipad ? Browsing , reading pdf and books ? Any of them will do
I don’t think the switch to 10.2 will be that noticeable , and it will allow you to save a lot of money, but you do you.
I genuinely don’t think you’ll benefit from the m1 air .
In fact I remember now , its battery is much worse that the regular ipad ! The iPad Air has the worse battery of all iPads, while the 9th and 10th have the best ( by far)
Definitely Get the 10th or 9th
Best feature might be the camera placement, but this will probably spread to the rest of the lineup over the next year or two.
9: 32.4mw
10: 28.6
Air:28.6
The 9 has the biggest battery with an extremely efficient chip (A13 is still hella powerful)
The 10 has a much smaller battery but the a14 is even more efficient I think . Still it's battery isnt as good as the 9 iirc
The air has small battery combined with laptop class chip ... Which isn't good , lol
What I don't understand is how the ipad pro 11" has better battery , even tho it's the same size as the air
I visit Youtube quite a bit--my substitute for lack of interesting television and the fact that History and Discovery channels have become garbage. I browse and visit newspaper sites and news networks. I sometimes play a couple of simple games. I do sometimes read ebooks on it. And, of course, email and text. So, yes, when it comes to consuming media my iPad is my go to device. I also use my iMac for some of those things, but it's primarily for 3D modeling and Photoshop and such.What do you do with your ipad ? Browsing , reading pdf and books ? Any of them will do
I don’t think the switch to 10.2 will be that noticeable , and it will allow you to save a lot of money, but you do you.
I genuinely don’t think you’ll benefit from the m1 air .
In fact I remember now , its battery is much worse that the regular ipad ! The iPad Air has the worse battery of all iPads, while the 9th and 10th have the best ( by far)
Definitely Get the 10th or 9th
Interesting bit about the battery. I would have thought the Air would be as good as the Pro in terms of battery life.
Yeah, that's interesting about the difference between Pro and the Air!
You mentioned the A13 still being super powerful- so that should mean the A14 in the 10th gen would make it a power device for years to come, I assume? (or would the 4GB RAM really hold it back?)
It's amazing how powerful these chips are... I have a 2017 iMac 27" on my desk here, which because it's a desktop device I have always had this assumption that it was superior for any heavier tasks than my phone or an iPad.... but the Geekbench score for it is only about 850 for single core, which is half of what the 10th Gen iPad is able to achieve. It's incredible how far things have come!
Are you sure about this? Maybe with heavy use this is true, but my Air 5 is by far the best iOS device ever in terms of battery life. Web browsing, TV shows, reading, low brightness, and I get like 25 hours of screen-on time.
Neither the 9.7-inch iPad Pro nor the iPad 6th gen on their original iOS versions are anywhere close to that, both standing at about 14 hours (I tested the iPad 6th gen and I was shocked to see that it was similar to the 9.7-inch iPad Pro when it was on iOS 9 (it was pathetically forced to iOS 12 by Apple and battery life plummeted), but maybe I should test it again sometime, that said, every partial test I’ve run indicates it is at 16 hours at most, not a lot better), so if I had to guess, I doubt the iPad 9th gen gets anywhere near 25 hours. Maybe the M1 is too efficient for these tasks and you’re taking heavy use into account which presumably shatters battery life? Because like I said, even large-battery, efficient iPads on earlier - and more efficient - iOS versions aren’t anywhere near the Air 5.
For reference, I got 9 hours of screen-on time from 100% to 63%. Like I said, I doubt the 9th gen can be better than that.
Nowhere close as often or as good as in the US. Canadian folks pay a bunch more all the time.
Id try the 9th gen if you can ,and if the 0.3inch downgrade bother you then go to a 10th
It's absolutely not worth the money imho bit you do you
Yeah ikr? Maybe bcz the pro motion displays consumes less.dunno
Power on an ipad feels kinda useless to me . At least for my needs and that of OP's
Eh yeah it'd be more powerful but not by a wide margin really, and I sincerely doubt it'd make a difference in daily usage . I may be wrong tho. But on ipad it just don't matter
4gb of ram...well again depends on.what you do. If you use procreate then yeah...otherwise 4gb is a lot on iOS still
Thanks! Yeah I was wondering about that- I don't see myself doing more than web browsing, email, social media, and the heaviest use- doing single photo editing in Lightroom or Pixelmator- which I suspect still doesn't use a lot of horsepower.
That's no longer true. iPadOS/system overhead uses up around 1-2GB RAM base nowadays which doesn't leave a lot for apps.
On my iPad mini 6 (A15/4GB), I get lots of reloads and the occasional app crash.
Personally, I'd take the 2020 iPad Pro 11" (A12Z/6GB) with its older chipset over the 10th gen.
Thanks!
Or I might still opt for the Air.... I did order it on Black Friday for $499, just haven't opened it yet, and then had seen the $389 deal at Costco for the 10th gen iPad, so I was considering.... but it is hard to overlook the horsepower and overhead available on the Air.
It is actually $389 right now at Costco for the 64GB.
This is partly why I am considering it instead of the Air, which I was able to order on sale for $499... for my light use, trying to determine if the $110 increase is worth it or not.
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I'm not sure . You know better. I only looked at several tests, but didnt use one myself
Bro, 25h ? Are you for real? I'd like a screenshot, that's incredible battery life !! I've never heard anyone getting that much SOT.
I do think you'd get even more with the 9th gen still...which would crazy honestly. The 9th gen has a more efficient chip and a bigger battery lol
Could you please show screenshots and describe your use? I'd love to hear about it. 25h of sot is a dream of.mine
unless you mind lightning I'd go for the iPad 9th . Rounded edges are super nice to hold btw
Whether it’s the 10 or the Air I seriously doubt you’ll see that kind of price in Canada.