iPad Buying a 10th gen iPad?

[FeliApple]

I don't have hard numbers on the screen time. It was a general impression the 10.5 isn't holding its charge like before. It certainly wasn't 10 hours, but then I wasn't using it for hours on end. Sometimes I'd use it for a few minutes and other times for a couple of hours.

I have an iPhone 8+ which I am quite happy with.

15.7 on my Air seems a bit different than 15.7 on my old Pro. It's as if some menu options have moved around a bit and maybe if there are added options I don't recall being there before. It's weird because I can't identify exactly (from memory) whats different, but it does seem slightly different.

If you don’t track it, it is very likely that the difference was significant. It has to be very noticeable, otherwise you wouldn’t notice at all, I think. This isn’t your case, obviously, but I say that based on the hundreds of conversations I’ve had with iOS updates-cause-battery-issues deniers. I’ve always said - and given very precise statistics to support my claim - that iOS updates obliterate battery life, always. I’ve repeatedly asked people who deny this the following: “okay, battery life is the exact same as it was on original iOS versions. Give me numbers, give me screenshots”. Invariably the answer is “I don’t know, I’m not obsessed, I don’t follow it”. Yet they deny it. I digress a little, it’s just to show that if you noticed and don’t track it, the difference was likely very significant, like I said.

The iPhone 8+ is the pinnacle of not-full-screen iPhones. I’ve never had one, I’d love to. One of my favourite iPhones I haven’t had.

Unfortunately, I can’t help you with your last point. I have a 9.7-inch iPad Pro, but it is - and will remain - on iOS 12.

Thanks for the answer!

 

[Mainsail]

I bought the original iPad when it came out in 2010. Base model was $499.

16GB storage vs 64GB.
No cameras.
1.5lbs vs 1lb
9.7in HD display vs 10.9in Retina display.
Giant Bezels with huge Chins vs Updated Form Factor
250mb RAM vs 4GB.
1 set of speakers vs 2 sets
30 pin connector vs USB-c
No Touch ID
No Apple Pencil support
No Keyboard connector

The list goes on and on and on

Anyway, from my perspective, the iPad 10 for $399 (on sale) is a good deal.....but, maybe I am too easily satisfied.

 

[FeliApple]

iPhones still use mobile layouts though.

On iOS 12, 4GB RAM was plenty. Granted, Safari wasn’t as capable as on iPadOS 13+.

iPadOS 13 had notably worse memory management than 12 and 15 made it even worse.

Mind, I find apps to be better behaved with regards to RAM. It’s websites and webapps that seem to be getting out of control.

I can confirm that iOS 12 is fine, performance-wise, on 2GB iPads. We’ve had this conversation before, but for people who haven’t read it, and like you said, iPadOS 13 onwards skyrocketed RAM requirements.

Yeah. Coming from devices with 2-4GB RAM, I wouldn’t bother with the 10th gen myself. It’s either 9th gen or Air 5 (or if you get lucky, $549 M1 iPad Pro 11 like the Target Cyber Monday sale) for me.

I have the mini 6 and it’s annoying when apps crash.

I’ve been playing Art of War Legions recently. It crashes a lot and is pretty much stop motion on my old iPhone 7 (A10/2GB). Crashes sometimes and stutters often on the iPad 7th gen (A10/3GB). Crashes every once in a while and stutters sometimes on the iPad mini 6 (A15/4GB). Meanwhile, it runs very smoothly on M1 + 8GB/16GB even when I have screen recording running.

We’re planning on retiring both the 2016 iPad Pro 9.7 and 2018 iPad 6th gen at the same time with RAM being culprit in both cases. Meanwhile, the 2017 iPad Pro with 4GB RAM still has quite a bit of life left in it. The extra longevity that 8GB RAM affords is why I’d rather spend the extra $100 or so on the Air 5 rather than opt for the 10th gen.

Both of your 9.7-inch iPads are updated, right? To iPadOS 15? 16? Coincidentally, I have both iPads on iOS 12 (the 9.7-inch iPad Pro and the 6th Gen), and they’re amazing. Fast, websites are fine even if not Air 5-like, and even though battery life on the 9.7-inch iPad Pro isn’t amazing, it’s half-decent. Mediocre, even, but the numbers I’ve seen on iPadOS 15 and 16 are utterly appalling (something like 3-4 hours), so I can’t complain with me getting about 11 (even if it was 14 back on iOS 9. I have to be grateful that it is on a half-decent iOS version, and that it wasn’t obliterated like my 6s was - also forced from iOS 9, this time to iOS 13).

When are you retiring them? Will you sell them?

 

[rui no onna]

Both of your 9.7-inch iPads are updated, right? To iPadOS 15? 16? Coincidentally, I have both iPads on iOS 12 (the 9.7-inch iPad Pro and the 6th Gen), and they’re amazing. Fast, websites are fine even if not Air 5-like, and even though battery life on the 9.7-inch iPad Pro isn’t amazing, it’s half-decent. Mediocre, even, but the numbers I’ve seen on iPadOS 15 and 16 are utterly appalling (something like 3-4 hours), so I can’t complain with me getting about 11 (even if it was 14 back on iOS 9. I have to be grateful that it is on a half-decent iOS version, and that it wasn’t obliterated like my 6s was - also forced from iOS 9, this time to iOS 13).

When are you retiring them? Will you sell them?

My mom lets hers auto-update so it’s possibly at 15 or 16. Mine I kept on 14.8.1.

I still have a soft spot for the 9.7” size so I’m keeping my Pro 9.7 forever. My mom’s will probably be given away to family. I’m still waiting for a good discount on M1/8GB WiFi+Cellular before replacing. Might need to wait for those to show up on the Apple certified refurb store.

 

[Warped9]

If you don’t track it, it is very likely that the difference was significant. It has to be very noticeable, otherwise you wouldn’t notice at all, I think. This isn’t your case, obviously, but I say that based on the hundreds of conversations I’ve had with iOS updates-cause-battery-issues deniers. I’ve always said - and given very precise statistics to support my claim - that iOS updates obliterate battery life, always. I’ve repeatedly asked people who deny this the following: “okay, battery life is the exact same as it was on original iOS versions. Give me numbers, give me screenshots”. Invariably the answer is “I don’t know, I’m not obsessed, I don’t follow it”. Yet they deny it. I digress a little, it’s just to show that if you noticed and don’t track it, the difference was likely very significant, like I said.

The iPhone 8+ is the pinnacle of not-full-screen iPhones. I’ve never had one, I’d love to. One of my favourite iPhones I haven’t had.

Unfortunately, I can’t help you with your last point. I have a 9.7-inch iPad Pro, but it is - and will remain - on iOS 12.

Thanks for the answer!

My iPhone 8+ was being charged about every 3 days when it was new, based on my normal usage. That can still happen when I don’t use it much, but now the average is about every two days. Rarely do I have to charge on successive days.

It’s currently running iOS 15.7 (I’ve been holding off upgrading to 16). Obviously I use it for phone calls, but not often and usually not lengthy calls. I use text more and emails as well. At work I use it mostly to look up information when dealing with customers. At home I barely look at my phone primarily because I have my iPad at home and it’s more pleasant to use the bigger display.

My iPad gets the most use of my devices: iPad Air 5, iPhone 8+, iPod 7th GEN and 2011 21.5 iMac.

Based on my average I was charging my iPad 10.5 Pro every day or sometimes every other day. Of course it was used for email, text, browsing and Youtube (because History and Discovery channels on TV have sucked for years now). I usually let it run down between 10-20 percent before charging. On all my devices I uninstall apps that I simply never use. I use Safari exclusively and never Google Chrome. I also don’t have Microsoft Office on my mobile devices. I do use Office Home & Student on my iMac. On my iPad I use Pages if needed.

For games I have few simple ones that in all honestly I don’t play much. Solitaire is the one I play most on my iPad. I also have Solitaire on my iPhone, but I will play that only when I have to sit and wait such as at a doctor’s office or at the service garage waiting for my car.

 

[FeliApple]

My mom lets hers auto-update so it’s possibly at 15 or 16. Mine I kept on 14.8.1.

I still have a soft spot for the 9.7” size so I’m keeping my Pro 9.7 forever. My mom’s will probably be given away to family. I’m still waiting for a good discount on M1/8GB WiFi+Cellular before replacing. Might need to wait for those to show up on the Apple certified refurb store.

Cool! iPadOS 14 is at least better than iPadOS 16, and it has that home screen design many people really like.

Regarding what you said about the soft spot, I just wrote this on another thread about the 9.7-inch iPad Pro: “I am especially fond of this iPad because it is the best iPad with the original design language, the 9.7-inch screen with a home button, but that’s just me”. Great minds think alike, I guess! I could’ve sold it when I upgraded to the Air 5, but for the same reason as you, I’m keeping it forever. Like I said, it’s the best iteration of the original iPad, with the best features: quad speakers, laminated display, True Tone, etc. Kind of like the pinnacle of Apple’s original idea and conception of the iPad. That’s why I like it so much.

Hope you find that discount soon!

 

[FeliApple]

My iPhone 8+ was being charged about every 3 days when it was new, based on my normal usage. That can still happen when I don’t use it much, but now the average is about every two days. Rarely do I have to charge on successive days.

It’s currently running iOS 15.7 (I’ve been holding off upgrading to 16). Obviously I use it for phone calls, but not often and usually not lengthy calls. I use text more and emails as well. At work I use it mostly to look up information when dealing with customers. At home I barely look at my phone primarily because I have my iPad at home and it’s more pleasant to use the bigger display.

My iPad gets the most use of my devices: iPad Air 5, iPhone 8+, iPod 7th GEN and 2011 21.5 iMac.

Based on my average I was charging my iPad 10.5 Pro every day or sometimes every other day. Of course it was used for email, text, browsing and Youtube (because History and Discovery channels on TV have sucked for years now). I usually let it run down between 10-20 percent before charging. On all my devices I uninstall apps that I simply never use. I use Safari exclusively and never Google Chrome. I also don’t have Microsoft Office on my mobile devices. I do use Office Home & Student on my iMac. On my iPad I use Pages if needed.

For games I have few simples that in all honestly I don’t play much. Solitaire is the one I play most on my iPad. I also have Solitaire on my iPhone, but I will play that only when I have to sit and wait such as at a doctor’s office or at the service garage waiting for my car.

Wow, yeah, you must be a light user if you’re charging it once every two days on iOS 15, or maybe it’s still good... I was forced to update an iPhone 8 to iOS 14 from iOS 12, and I frankly thought it would destroy it. I was astonished to see battery life is still good on iOS 14! With that, I wanted to say that maybe it’s still good on iOS 15, too.

Yeah, if you were charging everyday and you weren’t a heavy iPad user, battery life wasn’t too good. I wouldn’t have to charge even my 9.7-inch iPad Pro everyday if I weren’t a heavy user. I doubt Solitaire is too battery draining, even if it is gaming.

 

[Warped9]

Games I have on my iPad: Real Solitaire Pro, 1942, 1945 Air Force, WinWing, Air Attack 2, Otto-Matic, Cro-Mag Rally, Jigsaw and Tetris.

As I said Solitaire gets the most use by far. The rest I barely look at. And on a phone Solitaire and Tetris are the most playable because of the small display. The others are too frustrating to play on a small screen.

 

[rui no onna]

Games I have on my iPad: Real Solitaire Pro, 1942, 1945 Air Force, WinWing, Air Attack 2, Otto-Matic, Cro-Mag Rally, Jigsaw and Tetris.

As I said Solitaire gets the most use by far. The rest I barely look at. And on a phone Solitaire and Tetris are the most playable because of the small display. The others are too frustrating to play on a small screen.

The 7.9-8.3" is my favorite size for handheld gaming. Large enough to see the graphics better but small and light enough for touchscreen controls.

 

[Atomic1977]

Once you go 9th gen ipad there ain’t no looking back.

 

[Vivian125]

I don't know. iPad 10 Non Laminated display is much noticeable compared to 120hz refresh rate even when the screen is off.. its always there those ugly air gap around all the screen.. its really ugly, especially when you're using an iPad Pro 11" model like me.. even the air 2 has deeper red, and deeper black than base iPad 5 to iPad 10. To make matters worse, Even my Auntie old iPad Air 1 from 2013 has better color reproduction when I accompanied her to buy her new iPad 10th gen at the store when she compared it lol 😆🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

 

[vrflyer]

iPad 10 Non Laminated display is much noticeable compared to than just the lacks of 120hz even when the screen is off..

Uhmmmmm, what? Whatever you're smoking please stay off of it.

 

[darngooddesign]

My 10.5 Pro is in mint shape and the online Apple trade-in evaluation says it's worth $70 CAN. If I trade it in through work I expect to get about ten bucks less for it, but then I get my ten percent staff discount off the new device.

iPad Air 5 = $799.99 - $80 - $60 = $659.99 (+ tax)
iPad 10th Gen = $599.99 - $60 - $60 = $479.99 (+ tax)

Actually that Air 5 would cost me significantly less than what my Pro 10.5 cost me new even before adjusted for inflation. That Pro was an indulgence on my part.

Refurbished iPad Air 4:
64GB - $469
256Gb - $600

Unless the landscape camera is a priority, which is a perfectly valid reason for choosing the iPad 10, I would suggest a refurbished iPad Air 4 due to its better screen.

 

[Warped9]

Refurbished iPad Air 4:
64GB - $469
256Gb - $600

Unless the landscape camera is a priority, which is a perfectly valid reason for choosing the iPad 10, I would suggest a refurbished iPad Air 4 due to its better screen.

A month before Christmas I sold my 10.5 Pro privately for $250 (CAN) and bought the Air 5 64GB. That with my staff discount at work (it was 15% during the holidays) the Air 5 cost me the equivalent of a 9th GEN 64GB.

 

[darngooddesign]

A month before Christmas I sold my 10.5 Pro privately for $250 (CAN) and bought the Air 5 64GB. That with my staff discount at work (it was 15% during the holidays) the Air 5 cost me the equivalent of a 9th GEN 64GB.

That’s great, it’s a really nice iPad.

 

[Atomic1977]

Who in the freakin hell wants the 10 gen iPad? I think the 9th Gen which is what I currently am on is still going strong in 2023 and will last a long time yet.

 

[darngooddesign]

Who in the freakin hell wants the 10 gen iPad?…

Someone who wants USB-C, a landscape camera, and the newer design and colors.

 

[Mainsail]

Someone who wants USB-C, a landscape camera, and the newer design and colors.

Also, a larger screen than the iPad 9, better processor, better rear camera, and landscape stereo speakers.

Some people just want a basic iPad with an updated form factor. The retail price difference between the 9 & 10 is about $120, and you can buy the 10 on sale for $399. If you plan to keep it for about 4-5 years, I think the price difference is worth it for some people. It was for me.

 

[darngooddesign]

Also, a larger screen than the iPad 9, better processor, better rear camera, and landscape stereo speakers.

Some people just want a basic iPad with an updated form factor. The retail price difference between the 9 & 10 is about $120, and you can buy the 10 on sale for $399. If you plan to keep it for about 4-5 years, I think the price difference is worth it for some people. It was for me.

Nothing wrong with the iPad10, and you can always wait for a sale/discount So it is priced where you think it should be.