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LFC2020

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Nope, no. Nada, not even thinking of it.. I am perfectly happy with my purchase. Yes I had a halo blooming glitch, but it’s been so much better since factory reset. I don’t care about the iPadOS update, lacklustre but my ipad still does everything I want. I went for the size of screen and storage that I wanted, and that was perfect. This will last me 5-10 years now :)
10 years ?? I hope for your sake it does, but I highly doubt it.
 
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LFC2020

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Keeping my 8gb ram model, but totally understand if people feel hard done by after WWDC and end up returning their 16gb ram model.
 
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MrBukey

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I honestly think that Apple had plans for the M1 chips with pro apps, especially as they called out the 16GB RAM. If it was just economies of scale, they wouldn't have even mentioned the difference. (They never used to talk about RAM at all.)

I just don't think they're ready - for whatever reason - to take that next step. Maybe it's quality control. Maybe it's the impact of Covid and they're behind the curve. They promised nothing though, so they haven't reneged on any promises.

The other thing I note is that the start of the WWDC included lots of memojis talking about things like "rock and code" (coding on the go?) and a few other things that might be able to be linked to coding on the iPad... Then they start with asking developers for their ideas to create videos (FCPX?) and that finishes on talking about music creation (Logic?).

Apple normally does things quite deliberately. There's only three reasons I can think of for that opening video/music montage.

The is it's a coincidence. Doesn't seem very Apple though.

The second is that Apple are trolling people. Again, doesn't really seem in Apple's ethos - and doesn't seem very Tim Cook for sure.

The third is that Apple have got plans for the M1 iPad Pro's (whatever they are) and the video section tied in with those plans --- but they're just not ready to realise them yet. If this is the case, and Apple had released something that was half baked and didn't work... Well, everyone would be moaning about that then, so it's probably best that it wasn't released yet.

Still - Apple have promised nothing, and people have jumped to conclusions. Whether they prove to be right or wrong in the future is all just speculation. Honestly, Apple have delivered on everything they've publicly promised. The rest is on buyers as individuals.
 

LFC2020

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Maybe. Maybe in time they need to look for ways to bring in more profits, and then they decide to cut support down to 3 years.
Can’t see that happening, they’re killing it when it comes to profits on all their hardware and services.

They’ll bring out a 32gb ram iPad with a 4tb ssd and watch sales go through the roof again. ?
 
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slplss

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Apple SERIOUSLY messed up. Why....WHY the heck have 16GB of RAM on the iPad when they did not announce iPad OS 15 would take advantage of that RAM?
Because the OS can’t take full advantage of the added RAM, the 3rd party Apps will? Isn’t this what is this WWDC about? I’m sure the M1 and RAM on iPP will be part of the discussion. The limitations we heard about were for iOS 14, and iOS 15 is still in its earliest stage.
 
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Nope, no. Nada, not even thinking of it.. I am perfectly happy with my purchase. Yes I had a halo blooming glitch, but it’s been so much better since factory reset. I don’t care about the iPadOS update, lacklustre but my ipad still does everything I want. I went for the size of screen and storage that I wanted, and that was perfect. This will last me 5-10 years now :)

Yep, you will be fine, except that you will probably want a new iPad in about 3 years from now anyway. ?
 
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Surfman

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Keeping my 8gb ram model, but totally understand if people feel hard done by after WWDC and end up returning their 16gb ram model.
Have you thought maybe some people just want more storage? They just happen to come with double the ram, maybe will be needed for those bigger gb models down the track. You banged on forever about mini led not as good as oled and Apple are ripping us one, then you saw it and traded your old one, and then banged on about how good the mini led is and is as good as oled, even your LG oled tv haha, now your banging on about your new iPad is overkill for the OS lol.
It’s getting a bit tiresome, love your passion but!! You must have real buyers remorse you’ve spent the extra $1kaud just to get you iPad to look like your tv haha. Which I doubt very much, if it is I’d be returning that tv lmao.
Anyway it’s State of origin night the real football is on ?
 

The Game 161

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No I still use my iPad like a laptop with my MK. The lack of pro apps won’t change that.

If people were thats desperate for all that they would already have a mac
 

laptech

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Potential buyers are basing there concerns in my opinion on the recent article that reported about iOS only being able to use 5-6GB of RAM and that fact at the WWDC there was nothing to indicate why 16GB of ram is required in the latest ipad models.

I have no doubt Apple will do what they have done in the past, keep things quiet and then a few months later, announce that something new is comming out and that it will require the 16GB version of the ipad to run it. Then customers will be scrambling to return their newly purchased 8GB ipads for the 16GB versions, which will naturally be of financial benifit to Apple.
 
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LFC2020

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Have you thought maybe some people just want more storage? They just happen to come with double the ram, maybe will be needed for those bigger gb models down the track. You banged on forever about mini led not as good as oled and Apple are ripping us one, then you saw it and traded your old one, and then banged on about how good the mini led is and is as good as oled, even your LG oled tv haha, now your banging on about your new iPad is overkill for the OS lol.
It’s getting a bit tiresome, love your passion but!! You must have real buyers remorse you’ve spent the extra $1kaud just to get you iPad to look like your tv haha. Which I doubt very much, if it is I’d be returning that tv lmao.
Anyway it’s State of origin night the real football is on ?

Don't have buyers remorse, really enjoying my iPad, just feel bad for the People who went for the 16gb ram model with the intention that apple would be releasing pro apps.

That's the last time i'll be discussing this topic.

Origin ?‍♂️? ?
 
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VaruLV

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Aside from butt hurt fanboys flaming everyone who got disappointed by wwdc, Ill chime in and say that wwdc was disappointing indeed despite me not having too much of expectations. WWDC did however add to the fact that miniLED has M1 heat related issues showing up for some users so I took the risk and “upgraded” to more proven tech in 11 M1, hopefully that one survives without any issues in the long run.
 
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rui no onna

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Not when my 9yo iPad 3 is still used in the kitchen (it will once end up being a cutting board, I can imagine) and 7yo iPad Air 2 is getting latest iOS 15.

You've got far more patience than I do. Heck, even my dad thought that iPad was too slow. As soon as the $329 2017 iPad 5th gen was released, we got rid of the iPad 3.


Because the OS can’t take full advantage of the added RAM, the 3rd party Apps will? Isn’t this what is this WWDC about? I’m sure the M1 and RAM on iPP will be part of the discussion. The limitations we heard about were for iOS 14, and iOS 15 is still in its earliest stage.

The OS can utilize the RAM for multitasking, caching, etc. It's just individual apps that have a 5GB ceiling.


Potential buyers are basing there concerns in my opinion on the recent article that reported about iOS only being able to use 5-6GB of RAM and that fact at the WWDC there was nothing to indicate why 16GB of ram is required in the latest ipad models.

I have no doubt Apple will do what they have done in the past, keep things quiet and then a few months later, announce that something new is comming out and that it will require the 16GB version of the ipad to run it. Then customers will be scrambling to return their newly purchased 8GB ipads for the 16GB versions, which will naturally be of financial benifit to Apple.

I highly doubt we'll see any exclusive features for 16GB RAM. I don't think Apple's gonna alienate all those who bought a brand new M1 iPP with 128-512GB storage. Those are still freakin' expensive at $1100-1600 12.9" and $800-1300 11" before tax. 16GB might allow stuff to run smoother but it won't be required just to run something. Chances are Apple might even lower cut-off point for new features to the 2020 iPP (at least for the near future).
 

Ethosik

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Because the OS can’t take full advantage of the added RAM, the 3rd party Apps will? Isn’t this what is this WWDC about? I’m sure the M1 and RAM on iPP will be part of the discussion. The limitations we heard about were for iOS 14, and iOS 15 is still in its earliest stage.
Multi tasking on iPad is still a joke where it suspends apps if its not active. So why have 16GB of RAM when an App can only have a max of 5GB?
 
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maflynn

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So why have 16GB of RAM when an App can only have a max of 5GB?
It didn't really cost apple much, since they're already making the Soc for the macs. Its really marketing, Apple knows that there are a segment of people that will buy the maximum configuration and if there's any possible way to motivate others to do so, Apple will certainly look to entice it.

Apple is looking to sell iPads, and if they can move more people to the higher priced ones, regardless of the fact that OS cannot fully take advantage of the ram, they will
 
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iF34R

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It didn't really cost apple much, since they're already making the Soc for the macs. Its really marketing, Apple knows that there are a segment of people that will buy the maximum configuration and if there's any possible way to motivate others to do so, Apple will certainly look to entice it.

Apple is looking to sell iPads, and if they can move more people to the higher priced ones, regardless of the fact that OS cannot fully take advantage of the ram, they will
That ideology is going to leave a bad taste in my mouth if it's true though. If Apple doesn't want to utilize the hardware with its own software, so be it. However, they shouldn't limit how much hardware other developers are allowed to access/use.
 

rui no onna

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Multi tasking on iPad is still a joke where it suspends apps if its not active. So why have 16GB of RAM when an App can only have a max of 5GB?

Not much else you can do when there’s barely enough RAM for the OS and foreground app, and storage is too small/slow for swap. I’ve had occasions when I was in split view and one of the apps in split view would crash/reload (4GB RAM).

Iirc, there were APIs introduced in iOS 13 that actually does allow for more background stuff (processing, downloads, etc).
 

LogicalApex

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Nov 13, 2015
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It didn't really cost apple much, since they're already making the Soc for the macs. Its really marketing, Apple knows that there are a segment of people that will buy the maximum configuration and if there's any possible way to motivate others to do so, Apple will certainly look to entice it.

Apple is looking to sell iPads, and if they can move more people to the higher priced ones, regardless of the fact that OS cannot fully take advantage of the ram, they will
It still seems odd since Apple historically doesn’t have a charity bone when it comes to hardware. It also seems odd to me that during a component shortage that Apple says also impacts them they have spare chips lying around. But apparently they have found charity and they do? Seems so although it still seems odd.

The selling of them so over spec seems like it would delay upgrades for them. I kept my last iPad for 7 years. This one looks like it will easily take me through another decade.
 
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