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Cancelling Order! No to Glossy!
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Why cant apple give us the option!!! Is that really so much to ask?! That way ppl who like a glossy screen *ahem* (josh.thomas) will be happy...and everyone like me would be happy. Jobs would sell more computers and have more pennies in his piggy bank to help change the world! and all the child laborers in china will have more work generating more money to feed there families.
I wish Jobs would think about the children!
I wish Jobs would think about the children!
josh.thomas said:Thats what the rest of us are saying..
Ah right. Just call me Mr Redundant then
marchcapital said:
No. Its really not. I fully support having it as BTO, some people, in certain fields would find it hellish using a laptop with a glossy screen.
Now, I'm not saying the screen is bad, for me personally, and a lot of others, there are more pro's over a glossy than a matte.
Maybe Apple are marketing this as the Mac Mini of the Laptop range - therefore its not going to have as much customisation as the iMac or PowerMac (Pro Mac. Whatever).
I don't think it will ever be an option for the macbook and it could very well be the only option on all screens eventually.
celebrian23 said:I don't think it will ever be an option for the macbook and it could very well be the only option on all screens eventually.
Maybe your right? Apple could be trying out a future-idea on the cheapest item they make, that comes with a screen.
celebrian23 said:I don't think it will ever be an option for the macbook and it could very well be the only option on all screens eventually.
O NO!!! Ill never be able to use a computer again without getting a migrane!
Life sucks...lol
Maybe i should just bite the damn bullet and go buy a MacBook, glossy screen and all. Besides, im sure a third party somthing will come up with an antiglare film sooner then later.
I wonder when the Buy a computer and get a deal on an iPod thing is going to start...does anyone know?
I hope you realise josh.thomas that for now on when i get a headache using a computer with a glossy screen im going to think of you and how much you like them.
As Joey says... whoa!
This is my most replied topic ever! When I saw the MacBook in the store the glare was not as noticeable straight on... but it was there. Maybe because I am a designer and I do plan to use the machine for more then just web surfing and email that the glare really bothers me. I love everything, absolutely everything about this machine. I think apple should at the very least make this a BTO option.
This is my most replied topic ever! When I saw the MacBook in the store the glare was not as noticeable straight on... but it was there. Maybe because I am a designer and I do plan to use the machine for more then just web surfing and email that the glare really bothers me. I love everything, absolutely everything about this machine. I think apple should at the very least make this a BTO option.
arcobb said:
Perhaps the reactions were not to a reasonable post like the one above, but rather in reaction to some of the original comments you made in starting the thread (not to mention the "No to Glossy!" title).
arcobb said:
Just a thought. I think these comments are way offbase. I think your concerns as a designer in your more recent post are valid.
Sheesh. A little disappointing to see the flames and personal attacks. You know, it's ok to be opinionated and disagree with people and still respect their opinion too...
For my own experience, I was very disappointed when I first heard about the glossy screens. I was about 95% sure it would be a deal breaker for me. Which sucked because I was looking forward to the Macbook release for a few months. Still, I reserved that 5% for the small chance that the screen would be ok for me.
I went to the Apple store to see it in person. Their setup is not even close to ideal -- extremely bright overhead lighting, Macbooks on a table at about waist height so it was impossible to view them at a normal angle. Even so, I determined for myself that it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd imagined, and I supposed in normal lighting it would be fine. We bought one 2 days later.
I was right -- it has never been an issue. I can't recall one time that I had to adjust the angle, squint, or whatever due to reflection. That actually surprises me. I'm not going to say I love glossy and it's way better than matte. I could go either way now, having had real experience with both. I will say that the glossy screen does much better in direct sunlight, which is the opposite of what I had expected (but it kind of makes sense now). The matte screen gets all washed out due to the diffusion it creates, while the glossy stays crisp and clear (just don't reflect the sun directly).
Ultimately it is an individual preference and both types have drawbacks. I suspect that the industry will eventually drop matte screens altogether, because a lot of research is going into improving anti-glare measures on the glossy screens. Already it's very difficult to walk into a store like Best Buy and find any PC laptop with matte. Hopefully one day the glossies will be just as good a matte in terms of glare and reflection, while producing better color too -- best of both worlds. Right now it's about even, with different strengths and weaknesses.
For my own experience, I was very disappointed when I first heard about the glossy screens. I was about 95% sure it would be a deal breaker for me. Which sucked because I was looking forward to the Macbook release for a few months. Still, I reserved that 5% for the small chance that the screen would be ok for me.
I went to the Apple store to see it in person. Their setup is not even close to ideal -- extremely bright overhead lighting, Macbooks on a table at about waist height so it was impossible to view them at a normal angle. Even so, I determined for myself that it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd imagined, and I supposed in normal lighting it would be fine. We bought one 2 days later.
I was right -- it has never been an issue. I can't recall one time that I had to adjust the angle, squint, or whatever due to reflection. That actually surprises me. I'm not going to say I love glossy and it's way better than matte. I could go either way now, having had real experience with both. I will say that the glossy screen does much better in direct sunlight, which is the opposite of what I had expected (but it kind of makes sense now). The matte screen gets all washed out due to the diffusion it creates, while the glossy stays crisp and clear (just don't reflect the sun directly
).Ultimately it is an individual preference and both types have drawbacks. I suspect that the industry will eventually drop matte screens altogether, because a lot of research is going into improving anti-glare measures on the glossy screens. Already it's very difficult to walk into a store like Best Buy and find any PC laptop with matte. Hopefully one day the glossies will be just as good a matte in terms of glare and reflection, while producing better color too -- best of both worlds. Right now it's about even, with different strengths and weaknesses.
You people will complain about anything. This is rediculous. There's already 1,000,000 other threads on this. Go get yourselves a life and stop worrying about how shiny someone else's laptop screen is.
netdog said:
You might be right, I was pretty bummed last night when I got home from the Apple store. I was ready to buy and I've already have ram on it's way for the machine. My intention was not to spark a debate... but this is a bullition board and those where/are my impressions of the screen. And I think to Apple needs this kind of feedback so they can make the best products for their customers. This longtime customer doesn't like the glossy and I really hope they will make a non-glossy finish (I have never owned a PC and my first Apple was an Apple IIe).
I design a lot and I can't justify buying when I'll notice the reflection every time I use it. What people are saying about the colors is true - they are great, good contrast and I do like the way it display's the colors over the Pro (the pro seems to have this weird bright spot right in the middle of the viewing area that moves as you move your head around) and the colors on the MacBook seemed more true to life to me. But the reflections are a big turn off and something that I will notice as I'm getting into the nitty gritty in photoshop/illustrator or what ever Im working on.
Anyway enjoy the day! I'm off to get some sun!
I don't get it...
Ok, so I have been watching this little debate over the "glossiness" since the new MacBooks arrived. And after a couple of weeks of investigation I have to say I don't get it. I have been to a couple of stores, used multiple machines in both, I have seen and used three of my friends' computers in "real life", and I have to say I just don't see it. In all of these experiences I have yet to witness any glare off of the glossy MacBook screens. I am at a point that I am looking for a reflection, trying all sorts of weird angles and contortions and lighting situations (I think I am starting to embarrass the people I go to the store with). Can someone offer a suggestion on how to see it? I am feeling a little left out and also dumb. That all being said, I like the screens just fine...
Life ain't prefect and neither are MacBooks, and I guess I'm alright with that
Ok, so I have been watching this little debate over the "glossiness" since the new MacBooks arrived. And after a couple of weeks of investigation I have to say I don't get it. I have been to a couple of stores, used multiple machines in both, I have seen and used three of my friends' computers in "real life", and I have to say I just don't see it. In all of these experiences I have yet to witness any glare off of the glossy MacBook screens. I am at a point that I am looking for a reflection, trying all sorts of weird angles and contortions and lighting situations (I think I am starting to embarrass the people I go to the store with). Can someone offer a suggestion on how to see it? I am feeling a little left out and also dumb. That all being said, I like the screens just fine...
Life ain't prefect and neither are MacBooks, and I guess I'm alright with that
Do a google search for "Macbook glossy screen true colors" and you'll see that the saturated image u get with a glossy screen. Research before you speak.
This is the case for all glossy screens, not just Apple's.
My source go this information directly from Apple.beatle888 said:
This is the case for all glossy screens, not just Apple's.
I think the reason for the glossy screen is that the macbook is targeted at media users (those who make tons of albums in iPhoto, watch a lot of DVD's on it, blog, listen to music -no screen required-, and do very little professional work). As you all know, the gloss enhances the color and brings "pics and movies" to life. Afterall, the Macbook was not targeted for professionals. If you are a professional or are not primarly going to use your mac for media, get a macbook pro; it's as simple as that folks. Apple wants you to buy one of their high end model notebooks if you can't work with the gloss.
What photographer/graphic designer works on a 13.3" screen anyway? If he owns a macbook, he'll hook it up to a 23"-30" ACD to work.
What photographer/graphic designer works on a 13.3" screen anyway? If he owns a macbook, he'll hook it up to a 23"-30" ACD to work.
im a strictly business user. email, surfing and documents. i refuse to have a glossy screen so is it best if i just go for the 15" pro? or will we see a more portable pro introduced?