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Cancer from using the iPhone?
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Just be quite. Would you care to explain what low radiation does, and what type of radiation you "think" is being emitted from a phone? Do you even know what radiation is, and how the energy is transferred?
Okay, see this is the exact thing I was talking about. You're confused as to what is causing the variance in sensitivity. DNA damage in sun burns is caused by UV radiation. There is enough energy in the UV radiation to cause dimers in DNA. This kind of DNA damage can cause all sorts of problems. It is combated pre-damage by protecting the stem cells with lots of dead cells as well as melanin. After damage occurs your body deals with any DNA damage via the various DNA repair pathways as well as the immune system. Different people have different amounts of melanin as well as differences in the DNA repair pathway. The immune system between individuals is very different and is a major factor in malignancy.
Fascinating. So how does this relate, you say?
The energy put out by cell phones is non-ionizing microwave radiation. AKA, not powerful enough to cause dimers as shown in the studies so far. You can't have some DNA being "more sensitive" to dimerizing because chemistry just doesn't work like that. In other words, you have variation in how the cells deal with the radiation, not in the sensitivity of DNA to the radiation. Still, there may be some pathway that we are yet unaware of or just don't understand enough currently that could cause problems but the likelihood of this causing cancer in the manner suggested is extremely low.
This is just another bit of correlation ≠ causation. When people get sick they like to know why, they get very focused on it. Thats good, thats natural. It helps us survive. It also leads to stuff like this and the mercury autism thing. People focus on one minor thing that isn't significantly linked when there are many more significant things they could focus on that would potentially have a greater effect. So, while it is good to bring up the idea and check to see if there is a causative link, it isn't so great to keep checking every 2 seconds like kids in the car asking if we're there yet. It just isn't productive.
SAR rates for cell phones
Apropos this topic, CNET has a page on specific cell phones and how much radiation they emit when in use:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602_7-5020355-1.html?tag=lnav
iPhone seems to be middle of the road...not nearly the lowest, but not nearly the highest, which seems surprising given all its bells and whistles
Apropos this topic, CNET has a page on specific cell phones and how much radiation they emit when in use:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602_7-5020355-1.html?tag=lnav
iPhone seems to be middle of the road...not nearly the lowest, but not nearly the highest, which seems surprising given all its bells and whistles
Still Concerned
I truly want my phone, and in this case my iPhone, to be safe. I am concerned though. Cancer rates are going up over the years.
The iPhone has wifi ability. What does that mean when you put it to your head? As well as GPS? I'm not anti-cell phones. I just want to do this safely. And headphones don't solve the problem from what I understand.
Did Johnnie Cochran die from using his cell phone? His tumor was on the side of his head which he used the cell phone all the time. Read the transcript from Larry King with Johnnie Cochran's widow.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/27/lkl.01.html
I truly want my phone, and in this case my iPhone, to be safe. I am concerned though. Cancer rates are going up over the years.
The iPhone has wifi ability. What does that mean when you put it to your head? As well as GPS? I'm not anti-cell phones. I just want to do this safely. And headphones don't solve the problem from what I understand.
Did Johnnie Cochran die from using his cell phone? His tumor was on the side of his head which he used the cell phone all the time. Read the transcript from Larry King with Johnnie Cochran's widow.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/27/lkl.01.html
You're going to give yourself a heart attack worrying so much.
My grandmother died of cancer. My mother survived cancer. I have concerns.
Another article to check out:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/07/03/cell-phones-part-five.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/07/03/cell-phones-part-five.aspx
Okay, pretend you're driving with your phone. Whats more likely to kill you? Driving while talking or cancer?
It isn't cancer.
You have nothing to worry about. Seriously, you should be more concerned about asbestos tape in old buildings than cell phones when it comes to cancer.
All I can say is just step back and take a deep breath. Worrying about this to such an extent is probably more detrimental to you than the actual cell phone.
(And really just because someone says x disease is rising therefore y must be the cause doens't make it true; correlation doesn't not mean causation. The number of pirates is increasing the same as temperature therefore pirates must be increasing the temperature![flying spaghetti monster])
It isn't cancer.
You have nothing to worry about. Seriously, you should be more concerned about asbestos tape in old buildings than cell phones when it comes to cancer.
All I can say is just step back and take a deep breath. Worrying about this to such an extent is probably more detrimental to you than the actual cell phone.
(And really just because someone says x disease is rising therefore y must be the cause doens't make it true; correlation doesn't not mean causation. The number of pirates is increasing the same as temperature therefore pirates must be increasing the temperature![flying spaghetti monster])
I really do not believe that cell phones give you cancer.
Is it possible that they do? Sure it is, but I'm not going to change the way I live and stop using products that I love all based on "maybe."
Is it possible that they do? Sure it is, but I'm not going to change the way I live and stop using products that I love all based on "maybe."
You could try one of these......
But seriously, they have done numerous studies now and still have no smoking gun that cell phone radiation causes cancer. I mean how many people use cell phones these days and has brain cancer skyrocketed? If your worried about getting cancer you would have better luck avoiding it by not smoking (if you do) adopting a healthier lifestyle and diet with less fat etc. than by not using a cell phone......
But seriously, they have done numerous studies now and still have no smoking gun that cell phone radiation causes cancer. I mean how many people use cell phones these days and has brain cancer skyrocketed? If your worried about getting cancer you would have better luck avoiding it by not smoking (if you do) adopting a healthier lifestyle and diet with less fat etc. than by not using a cell phone......
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Using WIRED headphones is the best way to reduce the chances of microwaving your head. As a WIRELESS device, that bluetooth headset is still emitting RF near your brain. Bluetooth frequency is much weaker than cell phone frequency, but still, if you want to be "safer"...
Speaking of popcorn, take a look at this......In any case, holding a cell phone against your head doesn't have nearly the same exposure as staring inside your microwave oven from 8 inches away impatiently waiting for your popcorn to finish.
http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html
Why Brain Surgeons Are Avoiding Cell Phones
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...geons-are-avoiding-cell-phones.aspx?source=nl
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...geons-are-avoiding-cell-phones.aspx?source=nl
Let me summarize:
- 3 doctors say cell phones "could be unsafe" (story is only 4 paragraphs)
- most of the lengthy web page is by a guy who claims the FDA, FCC, and EPA are apparently all involved in a conspiracy or just don't do anything (around 27 paragraphs)
- that is followed by a bunch of morons posting about how they are electrosensitive or building EMF-proof houses
Oh, and the guy running the web page sells books and "blue tube" handsets for phones (which are, of course, perfectly safe). And his area of expertise, you ask? Perhaps oncology, neurosurgery, or something brain-related? Nope, "nutritional medicine" (whatever that means). He sells all sorts of pills, vitamins, food bars, etc. Even cookware, that's right, cookware since "the cookware you use to prepare your food might be downright dangerous to your health"!!!
I would say its pretty obvious your to worried about dying from radiation to get a phone.
Stop reading all the crap on the internet. You are not gonna die.
I've heard reports that Soda causes cancer....call me(on my cell phone!!) when we have some proof.
Assume you don't glue it to your head, I wouldn't worry
Assume you don't glue it to your head, I wouldn't worry
Johnny Cochran's brain cancer may have been from cell phone use. Check this out.
http://whattheyweresayingis.blogspot.com/2008/05/cell-phones-and-johnny-cochrans-brain.html
Transcript from Larry King on cell phones and brain cancer..
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/27/lkl.01.html
And now, Ted Kennedy, another heavy cell phone user has it.
Not to mention the iPhone went from 0.97 SAR reading to the new 3g at 1.38 SAR. FCC max. is 1.6. We're getting closer!
http://whattheyweresayingis.blogspot.com/2008/05/cell-phones-and-johnny-cochrans-brain.html
Transcript from Larry King on cell phones and brain cancer..
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/27/lkl.01.html
And now, Ted Kennedy, another heavy cell phone user has it.
Not to mention the iPhone went from 0.97 SAR reading to the new 3g at 1.38 SAR. FCC max. is 1.6. We're getting closer!
It's not so much that there are more causes of cancer nowadays, but that as many of the other, more traditional ways of dying, such as plague, food-poisoning and road traffic accidents succumb to better safety standards and improved medical science, something is still going to get you in the end, and that something is more likely to be a currently incurable disease like cancer. As such, it looks like incidents of cancer are increasing, whereas the reality is that it is the incidents of death by cancer that are really increasing.
ROFL ...that has to be the funniest thing I've read all week! Yeah, 'heavy cell phone use' was Ted Kennedy's problem ...!
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I think... the more cancer you have... the healthier you are. You just need to count on the individual cancers eating each other instead of you!
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Update
This just came out. Here is a list phones ranked by radiation.
http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone?allavailable=1
Here is the iphone:
http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone?query=iphone&provider_id=1&brand=Apple
Just passing on the info... If anything, a public outcry could force these companies, including Apple, to make safer phones for us. If you are concerned and want change, pass this info to everyone you know.
This just came out. Here is a list phones ranked by radiation.
http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone?allavailable=1
Here is the iphone:
http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone?query=iphone&provider_id=1&brand=Apple
Just passing on the info... If anything, a public outcry could force these companies, including Apple, to make safer phones for us. If you are concerned and want change, pass this info to everyone you know.