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Can't WAIT 2012 Mac mini!

Hey just kind of a quick off-topic question though one I don't feel needs a new thread for.

I know all 2011 Minis can handle up to 16 GB of RAM. I saw on Intel's website that the i7-2635QM can handle 16 GB though I thought it could handle 32 GB. I guess only the 2720QM and 2820QM can?

Is this a mistake on Intel's part?
 
I just had a horrifying thought: what if the revised mini has nonremovable storage and soldered RAM? :eek:
 
Oh I think it's going to get to that eventually if not now then within the next few years. That's not exactly a horrifying thought anyway. I welcome the addition of flash storage anyway. Soldered RAM isn't exactly my cup of tea though as long as there's enough for what you want to do, it's fine.
 
phyrexia said:
I just had a horrifying thought: what if the revised mini has nonremovable storage and soldered RAM? :eek:
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Wouldnt be surprised if it did, only way to get more mini. With new advanced thermal cooling solutions it may happen if we can use a lower profile fan.
 
Any thoughts as to what the current base-model REFURB Mac Mini might sell for once these new ones are released??
 
I'd say 10% off existing prices would be a fair guess, as they go for $519Cdn right now, so around $469? I'd jump on one at that price for sure and throw in a couple of SSD.
 
plucky duck said:
I'd say 10% off existing prices would be a fair guess, as they go for $519Cdn right now, so around $469? I'd jump on one at that price for sure and throw in a couple of SSD.
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okay right now the 2010 base refurb is 469. when it was 2010 it was 519



http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC270LL/A 2010 at 469





http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC815LL/A 2011 AT 519


If the 2011 drops to 469 it is a very nice machine at that price..



I will grab a 2012 but I think it may not be a huge upgrade.


Right now the 2010 base model is a very hot seller at 469.


It is the lowest price to get real osx mac.
 
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phyrexia said:
I just had a horrifying thought: what if the revised mini has nonremovable storage and soldered RAM? :eek:
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Then apple will deserve a very good *** whooping, and they'd have gone too far. There's a limit too to our patience. I just upgraded my mini to 16gbs and and I love it, put there a hybrid seagate ssd. Oh the joys of customizing your mac. If they take that away from us and it's soldiered ram, and, god forbid a custom ssd option they 'll have gone too far. Actually I don't think they are that stupid to do that, since a lot of people will be alienated and will simply go hackintosh. I don't think they are that stupid, but I believe at this stage they are that smug, and couldn't care less about the users to do it. Let's face it, apple is the company who after what 3 years updated their pro tower computer, with 2 year old gfx and cpu and no thunderbolt or even usb3 in 2012. After that move, one can expect anything from them.
 
I'll be done with Macs if they release mini with soldered ram and other ****. I lost respect for Apple long time ago and expect nothing less tbh. Only way to make sure you pay 3-4x more money to apple for the ram. The more I think about it the more angry I get.

I wish we had the option of having a mini mac-pro as it were, like a PC case enclosure with easy access to the hardware. Without the over-kill of the mac pro.
 
blow45 said:
.... since a lot of people will be alienated and will .......
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and will walk.

Which makes me wonder why staff in crucial positions are walking?

Which made me wonder why some time ago four senior managers cashed in, what, 300 M USD worth of share options?

As a trader these items are both red flags to me. Obviously some within the organization are voting with their feet too.

I am getting the awful feeling that management is reverting back to their old pre-Jobs ways and will make exactly the same mistakes again.....

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Jonx said:
I'll be done with Macs if they release mini with soldered ram and other ****. I lost respect for Apple long time ago and expect nothing less tbh. Only way to make sure you pay 3-4x more money to apple for the ram. The more I think about it the more angry I get.

I wish we had the option of having a mini mac-pro as it were, like a PC case enclosure with easy access to the hardware. Without the over-kill of the mac pro.
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Totally agree. When locally a non-used Mac mini server 2010 turned up I did not think, I just grabbed it.

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phyrexia said:
I just had a horrifying thought: what if the revised mini has nonremovable storage and soldered RAM? :eek:
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bye bye to Apple, I am not going to put up with that kind of extortion.
 
All this talk seems a bit ridiculous to me. The 2012 mini hasn't even been released yet let alone the 2013 one so calm down.

These guys have every right to retire as they have more money than they know what to do with and want to spend it with their families. Apple is riding a high wave and the guys wanted to cash in before that wave crashed ashore. Can you blame them? Apple shares were around $40 six years ago and just over $100 three years ago.

Also, to really make the best use of flash storage and soldered RAM, the size of the mini would have to be slimmed down to the size of the USB optical drive. I don't think we're there yet. Take a wait and see approach.

Besides, Apple still has Phil Schiller, Jony Ive, and Scott Forstall among others.
 
Ice Dragon said:
These guys have every right to retire as they have more money than they know what to do with and want to spend it with their families.
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Besides, Apple still has Phil Schiller, Jony Ive, and Scott Forstall among others.
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I've seen more than one person loose it all in socalled "retirement", that money does not go that far with the lifestyle those people have become used to.

I have also seen one or two people who were in critical positions leave an organisation and then the company went downhill from there on. Management and senior staff is a delicate team effort and when that balance gets upset.

But I know it will fall on deaf ears, this is why the public are called "sheep" by Wall Street. The public is there to be fleeced of their money, just like Apple is fleecing the public in another way.
 
I understand what you are saying and maybe it's also an issue with stress as to why some of these guys are leaving as well.

I also understand the huge disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street that you bring up. The elite can afford to take risks like it's nothing.

(to keep this on topic) Getting back to the mini itself, I'm still eager for it. The processor used in the server is what has me the most curious as well as whether there will be a discrete model.

Should Apple products decline in quality, I will seek other options but I think things will be fine for a while.

I don't see Tim Cook being another John Sculley or Gil Amelio. That said, he definitely will never be a Steve Jobs.

The only problem with Apple now is they are betting too much on consumers and not enough on professionals.

Personally, while I have come to love Apple after being a PC user for so long. I'm waiting for the next Apple to come along and change the world.
 
I have fallen out of love with apple lol for at least a year or so, too much greed, they've become too commercial for their own good and lost their knack in so many things.

Collusion in the book market so they can gobble up another market not with any innovation they might bring to the table, but simply via their clout.

Piss poor os x development offloading real os development to hardware, poorly thought out and implemented ui ideas, pandering to the ios crowd.

Ios still looks like a phone os, no real advancements there either.

Lost their knack in ui design too, besides lion, the atv interface...good god, not even ms could have come up with that...

Ample disregard for their pro users... to have the nerve to release an "updated" mac pro after 3 years with 2 year old hardware and no usb3 or thunderbolt, and then claim, that isn't the actual update, wait for it...

And a general sense of boredom, swear to god even Ive looks bored in the new retina macbook pro ad going through his usual pretty meaningless trite on an apple ad.

Sure they've stuck a couple of retina screens others made on two of their products..so what? Ho hum...

That's not the apple I found to be a revelation after a decade in the pc world...
 
I was disappointed in the Pro "update" myself and I'm not even a Pro. I recommend taking a wait and see approach though and see if they come back to deliver a grand slam with the next Pro (which should have been delivered this year but I've heard trouble with Thunderbolt and the Sandy Bridge-E processor integration) and go from there.

I started following Apple heavily around 2007. It took me four years to purchase my first mini. (not from saving up though just waiting to pull the trigger). Now I feel I'm almost too late. I feel this perfect little machine will not have a successor I can purchase that will be as great when Haswell comes out. I hope I'm wrong though.

At the same time, I almost feel tech'd out. Being so integrated into computers makes me want to use them less.
 
It is not an absurd question although perhaps the answer is they don't want to use a 45W processor? Maybe they want to go 35W even for the quad-cores.

Edit: My friend let me know that the 3770T requires a desktop socket and chipset. The mini doesn't have it I don't think and the iMac would.
 
ignigena said:
Im sure the question is complete ly absurd but... Why dont use the 3770T?
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it is a great chip I am building a few pcs with it. But it is a desktop chip.

I can make it work in this case


http://www.wesena.co.uk/product.php/6/2/itx7_2


with this board


http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77E-ITX/


this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102950&Tpk=sapphire hd6670 ultimate

maybe even this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102980&Tpk=sapphire ultimate hd 7750


and it will absolutely crush a mac mini.

it does need an external psu.


I can do the build for under 1130.00

cpu is -------- 310
case is --------- 78
board is -------- 149
gpu is -------- 92
2 x 8gb ram is-- 100
windows 7 is --- 99
psu is----------- 99
256gb ssd is--- 203

this is pretty much better then any mac there is Mac pro excluded top of the line iMac excluded.
this is better then the new retina macbook pro in most applications. obvious that the mbp has the retina screen as its win not much else.

of course no osx and for some that has a lot of importance. for me as a long time mac only user the last 2 years have me drifting into windows more and more.
 
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I think apples decision to drop the green rating now leaves them with no reason to allow any customization. I hope not, but I wouldn't put it past apple to lock every new device like a safe.
 
philipma1957 said:
of course no osx and for some that has a lot of importance. for me as a long time mac only user the last 2 years have me drifting into windows more and more.
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The day we can use Xcode in windows to write iOS apps and there is a solid windows equiv of time machine is the day i seriously consider going back to windowz, 7 impressed me, compared to previous versions, not OSX obviously.
 
LaunchpadBS said:
The day we can use Xcode in windows to write iOS apps and there is a solid windows equiv of time machine is the day i seriously consider going back to windowz, 7 impressed me, compared to previous versions, not OSX obviously.
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Windows 8 is around the corner, so prepare to be disappointed.
 
LaunchpadBS said:
Haha I could only be disappointed if I had expectations, I'm way past that with MS
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I really want to like windows 8, but I don't think they understand what Apple is doing with OSX and iOS. Apple brings over features from each OS to the other. MS is just making the same damn thing on completely different devices. I really hope they are holding back something.

/rant off
 
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