Can't WAIT 2012 Mac mini!

[barkmonster]

Then apple will deserve a very good *** whooping, and they'd have gone too far. There's a limit too to our patience. I just upgraded my mini to 16gbs and and I love it, put there a hybrid seagate ssd. Oh the joys of customizing your mac. If they take that away from us and it's soldiered ram, and, god forbid a custom ssd option they 'll have gone too far. Actually I don't think they are that stupid to do that, since a lot of people will be alienated and will simply go hackintosh. I don't think they are that stupid, but I believe at this stage they are that smug, and couldn't care less about the users to do it. Let's face it, apple is the company who after what 3 years updated their pro tower computer, with 2 year old gfx and cpu and no thunderbolt or even usb3 in 2012. After that move, one can expect anything from them.

I agree, with all the recent Thunderbolt expansion systems and add ons for the 2011 Mac Mini, I doubt they'll cripple it with integrated soldered RAM and storage.

They have the Apple TV as a seperate product, the Mac Mini is sold as an entry level mac, Apple realise people want to upgrade the storage and RAM, hence the design.

You're definitely wasting your time with a hybrid drive.

Get a SATA 6Gb/s SSD. A pure SSD is fast, 100% fast all the time.

A hybrid just moves commonly used data to a small onboard SSD of a few GB for caching purposes. They're also horendously over-priced, only offer increased performance over a HDD, not comparable performance to an SSD because by design the spends a lot of time moving data from the HDD to the SSD portion of the disk which makes it inefficent compared with a dedicated SSD and a dedicated HDD.

As the Mac Mini already comes with a 500Gb drive, a 240Gb SSD for the OS would be not only WAY faster than a hybrid but be comparably priced to replacing the HDD with a 750Gb hybrid altogether.

There's a second drive bay in the Mac Mini that only needs a lower-flex cable to utilise. A fast SSD for booting and a standard HDD for storage would be the best option for the Mac Mini.

 

[ignigena]

it is a great chip I am building a few pcs with it. But it is a desktop chip.

I can make it work in this case


http://www.wesena.co.uk/product.php/6/2/itx7_2


with this board


http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77E-ITX/


this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102950&Tpk=sapphire hd6670 ultimate

maybe even this card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102980&Tpk=sapphire ultimate hd 7750


and it will absolutely crush a mac mini.

it does need an external psu.


I can do the build for under 1130.00

cpu is -------- 310
case is --------- 78
board is -------- 149
gpu is -------- 92
2 x 8gb ram is-- 100
windows 7 is --- 99
psu is----------- 99
256gb ssd is--- 203

this is pretty much better then any mac there is Mac pro excluded top of the line iMac excluded.
this is better then the new retina macbook pro in most applications. obvious that the mbp has the retina screen as its win not much else.

of course no osx and for some that has a lot of importance. for me as a long time mac only user the last 2 years have me drifting into windows more and more.

Only in case apple mess up with the next mini.

If you can pass whithout the graphic card... What about this case?

http://www.hd-plex.com/H3.S.html

About the board, why the z77 and not the h77?, I mean, if you don't plan to OC the H77 would do the job equally well right?

The benefits of this configuration are no mobile parts, that's it, no noise, 0, nada. Obviously is not as beautiful as a mini and the OS issue is still there but if apple make the next mini as an as is system, then I think this could be a nice server option. It admits up to three 2.5hdd too.

If I want a discrete graphic card I would go for the sapphire ultimate and this case

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/produc...ex=480&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f

With this Psu

http://www.seasonicusa.com/NEW_X-series_Fanless.htm

And this CPU dissipation

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=189&area=en


The only mobile parts in this configuration would be the two fans of the case and they are not noisy:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1074-page4.html

If I don't like the new Mac mini, I would look for a substitute, even if it's not going to be so compact or beautiful. At least I would get more bang for my money and more upgradability (it's that a word? Sry for my English, it's not my mother tonge)

 

[blow45]

I agree, with all the recent Thunderbolt expansion systems and add ons for the 2011 Mac Mini, I doubt they'll cripple it with integrated soldered RAM and storage.

They have the Apple TV as a seperate product, the Mac Mini is sold as an entry level mac, Apple realise people want to upgrade the storage and RAM, hence the design.

You're definitely wasting your time with a hybrid drive.

Get a SATA 6Gb/s SSD. A pure SSD is fast, 100% fast all the time.

A hybrid just moves commonly used data to a small onboard SSD of a few GB for caching purposes. They're also horendously over-priced, only offer increased performance over a HDD, not comparable performance to an SSD because by design the spends a lot of time moving data from the HDD to the SSD portion of the disk which makes it inefficent compared with a dedicated SSD and a dedicated HDD.

As the Mac Mini already comes with a 500Gb drive, a 240Gb SSD for the OS would be not only WAY faster than a hybrid but be comparably priced to replacing the HDD with a 750Gb hybrid altogether.

There's a second drive bay in the Mac Mini that only needs a lower-flex cable to utilise. A fast SSD for booting and a standard HDD for storage would be the best option for the Mac Mini.

I like to pride myself that I know what I am doing when I am tweaking my computers and now I feel like an ignorant c..t for not realizing I could use a dual hd/ssd arrangement, I just wasn't aware the mini had a second drive option....

But I've not regretted my 750gb momentus seagate option, I want to give it a go and see how it feels. I think 8gbs on board is ample storage to not have to move about a lot of os stuff that you use a lot. I wouldn't have said the same about the 500gb one they used to have. Anyway I ll see how that goes and I ll get back on you guys.

But boy to I feel like a c. for not realizing there's a second drive bay...

 

[LaunchpadBS]

But I've not regretted my 750gb momentus seagate option, I want to give it a go and see how it feels. I think 8gbs on board is ample storage to not have to move about a lot of os stuff that you use a lot. I wouldn't have said the same about the 500gb one they used to have. Anyway I ll see how that goes and I ll get back on you guys.

Second that, I put one in my MBP after trying a few different SSD's only to get the ol beachball spin every few seconds. Compared to the 5400rpm drive i had the hybrid drive is a treat, for the money I say it's definitely worth it, but with SSD's coming down in price...hmmmm

 

[philipma1957]

Only in case apple mess up with the next mini.

If you can pass whithout the graphic card... What about this case?

http://www.hd-plex.com/H3.S.html

About the board, why the z77 and not the h77?, I mean, if you don't plan to OC the H77 would do the job equally well right?

The benefits of this configuration are no mobile parts, that's it, no noise, 0, nada. Obviously is not as beautiful as a mini and the OS issue is still there but if apple make the next mini as an as is system, then I think this could be a nice server option. It admits up to three 2.5hdd too.

If I want a discrete graphic card I would go for the sapphire ultimate and this case

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/produc...ex=480&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64&g=f

With this Psu

http://www.seasonicusa.com/NEW_X-series_Fanless.htm

And this CPU dissipation

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=189&area=en


The only mobile parts in this configuration would be the two fans of the case and they are not noisy:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1074-page4.html

If I don't like the new Mac mini, I would look for a substitute, even if it's not going to be so compact or beautiful. At least I would get more bang for my money and more upgradability (it's that a word? Sry for my English, it's not my mother tonge)

Upgradeability


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/upgradeability you missed an e after the d. LOL


yeah your idea is decent and would work. I just built a big diy htpc in this case.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007X8TQYI/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00

with this board note it has thunderbolt

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00858CYDA/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00


this machine is a supersize version uses fans All 500 rpm or less .

it is the hub of my network 3 mac minis link to it and a thunderbolt pegasus r6

 

[spike8585]

I just bought two 120gb Kingston HyperX 3K's for use in Raid0, and 16GB of corsair vengeance RAM in anticipation for my new (and first) Mac Mini.
I plan to buy the GPU version, and max out the CPU.

So I guess I will have to buy a second SATA cable for the mini, assuming that it will be the same one. Where is a good place to buy them?

How fast do you think we will be able to find out if it is the same cable after it is released?

 

[Lance-AR]

Ifixit had pictures of the rMBP out pretty quickly. How did you know what RAM to buy?

 

[spike8585]

I bought 16gb of Corsair vengeance DDR3-1600 sodimm. There are not many options with ddr3 sodimms, and these work in the 2011 model, even though they support a higher bus. Hopefully the 2012 Mac mini will run them at 1600mhz.

 

[aonarch]

I bought 16gb of Corsair vengeance DDR3-1600 sodimm. There are not many options with ddr3 sodimms, and these work in the 2011 model, even though they support a higher bus. Hopefully the 2012 Mac mini will run them at 1600mhz.

I've got the same memory that I was running in my now sold 2011 MBP 15".

Hoping it will work in the 2012 Mini.

 

[spike8585]

Hoping it will work in the 2012 Mini.

Me too!!!

 

[MJL]

The new Mac mini is already here, the company has listened to the complaints of the lack of the BlueRay, the internal PSU, USB 3. On top of that they have gone bback to the original looks...

Unfortunately they had to relabel it otherwise they would have too much egg on their face.

http://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/Vision HT Series/#Specifications

 

[Fishrrman]

"http://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/V...Specifications"

I took a look at this -- and this is what a new Mini _should_ be!

A wealth of ports on both front and rear.

Makes me wonder if this might be a prime candidate for a little hackintoshin'... !!

 

[blow45]

I just installed 16gb of crucial on the base mini, and kernel task jumped to 1gb upon restart...any clues?

 

[ignigena]

"http://www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/V...Specifications"

I took a look at this -- and this is what a new Mini _should_ be!

A wealth of ports on both front and rear.

Makes me wonder if this might be a prime candidate for a little hackintoshin'... !!

They look interesting but, Is a hackingtosh really worth it?, I mean, what are the drawbacks?, the hardware compatibility and all that, I don't know the first thing about it but it looks like a bit pain in the ass, isn't it? Would I be able to get mountain lion right away?, why the &@(?!! dont apple sell OSX for any platform? ( I know, they wouldn't profit so much, I just needed to complain out loud)

 

[Poki]

why the &@(?!! dont apple sell OSX for any platform? ( I know, they wouldn't profit so much, I just needed to complain out loud)

Because then they'd have many of the problems Microsoft had with Vista and still has with Win 7 (although its quite good now). MS isn't a bad software developer, they just have trouble supporting all and every hardware piece any chinese kid builds out there ...

 

[barkmonster]

Because then they'd have many of the problems Microsoft had with Vista and still has with Win 7 (although its quite good now). MS isn't a bad software developer, they just have trouble supporting all and every hardware piece any chinese kid builds out there ...

They could work with Intel and AMD to create approved builds and have something like a "Made for Mac OS X" qualification for hardware. Standard versions of motherboards with thunderbolt support and the same chipsets as Apple Macs and standard versions of GPUs that are supported natively by Mac OS X. It wouldn't be hard to do these days because there's so many common parts. It wouldn't be a repeat of the PPC clones, they'd have a lot of interest from iOS customers who at present couldn't afford a Mac or don't want one but like the OS. It's a chance for Apple to grow market share of the OS, they already have the infinite cash-cow of iTunes and the iGadgets to fall back on, they have absolutely nothing to lose.

 

[Poki]

They could work with Intel and AMD to create approved builds and have something like a "Made for Mac OS X" qualification for hardware. Standard versions of motherboards with thunderbolt support and the same chipsets as Apple Macs and standard versions of GPUs that are supported natively by Mac OS X. It wouldn't be hard to do these days because there's so many common parts. It wouldn't be a repeat of the PPC clones, they'd have a lot of interest from iOS customers who at present couldn't afford a Mac or don't want one but like the OS. It's a chance for Apple to grow market share of the OS, they already have the infinite cash-cow of iTunes and the iGadgets to fall back on, they have absolutely nothing to lose.

Sure they have. I'd say about 50% of their Mac sales. In the end, they would get worse user experience, less money and a scratch in their image - all for just some percent of OS market share. Sure, they COULD grab a huge part of the PC market in many years, but that's something they also can achieve without licensing OSX.