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ChatGPT Plus Users Can Keep Using GPT-4o After Complaints About GPT-5
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AI 100% knows everything! We should trust it! /s
These are the same people who think ChatGPT is their "Friend". Delusionals.
I’ve just seen that ChatGPT has upgraded me to GPT-5.
Because I don’t quite recall what were the previous models… which were they?
I am in a free plan currently, and I had three. One of them was the “main one” without reasoning, the second was a reasoning model that honestly worked flawlessly for what I used it for, and the third one was a mini.
Could anyone please try to refresh my memory as of which were the three available models in the free tier until now?
Thank you.
Because I don’t quite recall what were the previous models… which were they?
I am in a free plan currently, and I had three. One of them was the “main one” without reasoning, the second was a reasoning model that honestly worked flawlessly for what I used it for, and the third one was a mini.
Could anyone please try to refresh my memory as of which were the three available models in the free tier until now?
Thank you.
I wonder what people at Nokia said when they were shown the iPhone? ”That won’t be a party.”?
By the way, I’m kinda liking GPT-5, it’s great, I think better than what we had. However, the free tier feels more limited now. I’ve exhausted all my messages in a recent interaction and now I have to wait… this didn’t happen before when we had several models…
If it's "only" 5th grade level homework, shouldn't ChatGPT be able to correctly do it?
In five years the new president will have been elected and installed. No prediction required.
I too love bots that invent nonsense but tells me it's reality.
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman today said that the company will allow Plus users to continue to use the prior-generation GPT-4o model if they don't want to use the new GPT-5 model that came out yesterday.
As noted by The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern, there were some ChatGPT users who were upset that OpenAI replaced prior ChatGPT models with GPT-5 with no warning. Some people had become accustomed to the tone and feel of GPT-4o, and did not feel that the GPT-5 model was able to replicate it.
There are multiple complaints on Reddit about GPT-5's lack of personality compared to GPT-4o, and from people who feel that GPT-5 isn't able to complete the same tasks. Users have also complained about GPT-5 offering replies that are too short, and about hitting usage limits too quickly.
Altman says that Plus users can choose to continue to use 4o, and that OpenAI will watch usage and consider how long legacy models should continue to be supported.
To address the other complaints, GPT-5 rate limits for ChatGPT Plus users will be doubled as the GPT-5 rollout is completed. It is taking longer than expected for OpenAI to deploy GPT-5 to all users, and some people are not yet seeing GPT-5 as an option.
Going forward, GPT-5 should seem smarter, Altman said. There was apparently an issue with the autoswitcher yesterday that caused GPT-5 to seem "way dumber." OpenAI also plans to make it more clear about which model is answering a query, and will update the UI to make it easier to manually trigger thinking. Altman says that OpenAI will continue to listen to user feedback going forward.
Starting with iOS 26, the ChatGPT feature that's integrated into Siri will use the GPT-5 model. Until then, it will continue to use the prior ChatGPT models.
Article Link: ChatGPT Plus Users Can Keep Using GPT-4o After Complaints About GPT-5
LLM:s are great at many things, and not great at other things.
But what’s the point of focusing on the not-so-great things and sharing screenshot?
Just to get some free internet points? Like grow up
I’m in biochemistry and Claude/ChatGPT has made dozens of small python scripts to me that have been extremely valuable for my work.
Just focus on its strengths and be happy.
I’m currently paying OpenAI and Anthropic $20 every month. That could have been money to Apple if they had their own LLM.
But what’s the point of focusing on the not-so-great things and sharing screenshot?
Just to get some free internet points? Like grow up
I’m in biochemistry and Claude/ChatGPT has made dozens of small python scripts to me that have been extremely valuable for my work.
Just focus on its strengths and be happy.
I’m currently paying OpenAI and Anthropic $20 every month. That could have been money to Apple if they had their own LLM.
So that people get a sense of what to expect (or not).
Some are hyping these things up to INCREDIBLE levels, and I think it's important to have some reality checks on that.
Just to get some free internet points? Like grow up
Your comment here 👆 isn't setting a great example.
That's just not super useful (disregarding all the drawbacks and pretending they don't exist and "being happy")
I have instructed ChatGPT to behave in a certain way, and don't notice any change in tone when the LLMs are updated:
What traits should ChatGPT have?
Formal and short responses. Get right to the point. Tell it like it is; don't sugar-coat responses. ChatGPT should have opinions on subjects. ChatGPT should treat itself as a computer system, not a human.
I think o3-mini was added at some point. This was from a fairly recent screenshot I googled, matching my vague recollection, and it’s definitely not the Plus tier, which looked like that:
The available models changed every few months, so you might remember a different state.
Even if you’re going to attempt to make such a reductive argument regarding the value or merit of AI LLMs in our society you might as well consider that if/when google changes the output of their search engine it creates plenty of consternation among anyone who uses it.
You move an icon in an OS and people will be startled and frustrated by the change in something familiar. So yeah…. Make fun of the reality that these AI models are able to bond with and adapt to people as much as they’re able to themselves.
Try actually creating an account and talking to an LLM for more than a second…. Do it for a month on a regular basis and then see if you notice nothing at all.
I use ChatGPT pretty much every day. It's a computer tool, I have no "relationship" with it whatsoever. It's extremely concerning that people are forming emotional attachments to a computer, no matter what strained explanation you concoct.
Why not?
Like why not use all devices and services to their strengths?
After buying a new Mac, I dont go to YouTube and only show how bad it is at playing the latest PC shooter
Lighten up Francis. AI is a scam that almost a billion people are falling for. People are already becoming disaffected with it even to the point of having to go to therapy after having become paranoid and delusional. It’s costing jobs worldwide and destroying the water tables and electrical grids of local communities where these behemoth datacenters are located.
It’s the Dot Com bubble all over again. Apple is doing AI correctly. Slowly, in house, local on device for most things, opening up the API to Apple Intelligence to third party developers and continuing to develop their own LLM based on Apple’s long standing compute vision of safe, secure and private personal computing. The fact that Apple partnered with OpenAI to let Apple Intelligence switch over requests to ChatGPT when Apple Intelligence gets beyond it skis is ( 1 ) an admission that they are not ready yet for their own LLM to come out based not on Sam Altman’s delusional goal for AI but Apple’s measured, safer and more secure AI and ( 2 ) an pat on the head for misinformed and naive people such as yourself about Apple’s future.
Maybe it is a coincidence but weird, they got an ex Apple engineer on board and gpt gets dumber! 🤣