Because even back when I got my Palm III in 1999 you could do a universal search of the device.
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Check for Update -- still current :-(
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You do realize that you have to join a hacker's wi-fi access point in order for this bug to be exploited?
Yea, the ability to accept calendar invites would be nice (.ics files) -- right now I cannot even view them! 
I need better remote calendaring and more options for push email!
I need better remote calendaring and more options for push email! Every day I connect my iPhone to the computer, open iTunes, and excitedly click "Check for Update", hoping a bunch of new functionality will come rushing into my iPhone. And every day, there's nothing.
I don't want much -- just the sort of features my first Palm Pilot had in um... 1996. Sync ToDo list and Notes, cut and paste between records and applications, search the entire device for text, the possibility of other applications being added to it. Sure, I'd also like some features that didn't yet exist in 1996, but I don't want to push it.
Oh yeah... Stevesaid something like, "It is an iPod that can also be used as a telephone." So my expectations are completely unfounded.
But I'll keep dreaming. And clicking that "Check for Update" button.
No, all you have to do is visit a site that has the code.
A hacker's hotspot, where they redirect your surfing, is just one way of that happening. (And is one reason to avoid "free" hotspots that you aren't sure of.)
Simply clicking on a interesting looking link to a hacked site, works just as well.
An update will come out when sales begin to slow and the buzz dies a little. They'll role out a few features that probably should have been there all along to entice more people to buy it that were previously on the fence...
I posted the following in another thread in the Tips section, but it seems appropriate for this thread as well. I don't know if any of this information has been discussed here, but I spoke with an Apple Genius yesterday after I was having problems charging my phone. He told me that there is a known problem with the iPhone's software that results in the phone not indicating the actual battery level. It could be the case that the phone appears to have plenty battery left only to suddenly drop. This is not because the battery is faulty necessarily, but could be because the software isn't working properly and is misrepresenting your battery usage--the battery wasn't that full to begin with.
He said that a software update that's coming very soon will address this problem, but wouldn't say more than that.
He said that a software update that's coming very soon will address this problem, but wouldn't say more than that.
That is not true at all. Any webpage can serve up the malicious code.
The point of the wi-fi aspect of the exploit was to show how a hacker use the wi-fi access point to manipulate the user into thinking they are visiting a trusted site (like nytimes.com) but are really executing the malicious code underneath a fake page.
I agree! I believe the first update will only be to patch security holes and some bug fixes to fix the reported stability issues. We won't see extra features just yet.
You are correct, I did some reading up on it during a work break.
I also saw where the research firm that discovered this weakness plans on releasing full details as to how they did it on August 2, which is a week from today.
Based on this information alone, I predict Apple will release an update (at the minimum a patch for this exploit) by August 2.
Being a software engineer I understand how the process for releasing updates works. We get requirements for changes all the time and our end users always know when we will be rolling those changes into production. If there are going to be problems big enough to delay the release of the update we usually know up front when we are working on the design documents for the changes. As developers, we should know our application well enough to know what we are capable of implementing and in what time frame we can implement it in. I would assume this is no different with apple developers. A prime example of this is the gaming industry. I know of a lot of you playstation or xbox fans can relate to this. They always give a release date for their games but these dates usually get pushed back due to unforseen problems. So, I wouldn't consider asking the question about a release date disclosure as "complaining like hell" but rather just what it is, a simple question.
By all indications many non Apple (Mac) users are looking at Apple these days. The iPod has a great track record and the press from the big Power PC to Intel switch didnt hurt either in raising an already high corporate profile even higher. But the buzz surrounding the iPhone (announced in January 2007, launched June 29th 2007) has without a doubt had the highest media profile since Coke changed is formula in the mid eighties. I mention all of this and use new Coke as the example because Apple is about to make the same mistake Coke did with its new formula idea. Apple is playing a very stubborn game with early adopters of the new iPhone. Many of us who gladly paid $500 to $600 for iPhones and didnt even argue with being locked to AT&T for five years had problems activating right out of the box. Many of us expected a quick firmware release from Apple within a few days from launch too, to fix some pretty annoying bugs that clearly were just missed in testing. The bugs are in many cases minor but get very annoying quickly; Safari random crashing, lack of Flash, no cut and paste, no ability to SMS multiple recipients, no ringtone customization, no user interface customization, no custom dictionary for the virtual keyboard, cant select to send from anything other than the default email account and according to some reports this bug list goes well over 60 issues. Early adopters also have had hardware quirks with white dotted screens (of which there are two versions the 5x. and the 7x. series) and or non-battery charging problems (which Apple has recently acknowledged, but yet to patch). This bringing me to the recent headline of a major security alert for iPhone users. This is an exploit in Safari that allows malicious hackers to read all your emails and even copy your entire contact list from your iPhone. All in all the press love and cover and print these bugs and issues endlessly print that the public perceive as a failed product. In the last week alone I have counted only one person who had something good to say when they saw my iPhone, every other person has said things like Is that an iPhone, I heard there were a lot of problems. Have you had a lot of problems? or Oh, you have an iPhone! I hear the battery sucks!, or I just hear laughter and they show me their Blackberry and say This works!. Now of course the iPhone does work, it is a good phone and has revolutionary features that are leaps ahead of a Blackberry which is and excellent phone/PDA for the suits. Apple has the ability to fix many of the software/firmware related issues at anytime. Each time an iPhone is synced to iTunes the phone checks for an update. But Apple has chosen not to incrementally roll out quick fixes but rather to use early adopters as live paying for the privilege beta testers! Much as Coca-Cola ignored its customer base and took almost a year to react to the backlash from even casual customers saying they were unhappy, Apple is making the same mistake. Apple knows how many people are clicking on the check for update button, users who already know that the iPhone has already made the update check for them when they connected the phone. Customers who cant believe that even a simple update to fix charging and Safari stability/exploit issues have not been addressed. All of this just leaves the press to create a cloud of headlines that will end up making this great product one that I am getting shy of showing people because of the negativity I get in their response. This really boils down to one word and for me that is Care, is Apple what I perceived it to be? Does anyone at Apple really care anymore what an end user thinks? Steve Jobs spirit is great on stage but appears non-existent past the stage door. I really was excited to own an Apple product and be part of the counter culture. Sadly Apple has become 1985 Coca-Cola and dare do I say the Big Blue IBM it railed against in the early 80s.
Paragraphs are your friend. Please edit and put some returns in there so we can read it without getting a headache
Thanks!
You are totally confused by the hype around the iphone.
1) Nobody forced anyone to go out on day1 and spend 600$ on something that had never been tested: seeing people complaining is beyond ridiculous to me. 24 hours after launch every single flaw of the iphone was already spotted: if you still buy it its your legitimate choice, but what the heck are you complaining about? That you dont like the exact same colour that you choose?
2) iPhone does exactly what it promised to, with the exception of random crashes of safari/ipod. That's the only flaw for which somebody can complain. To note, this type of flaw is present in 100% of iphone competition, let handheld-mobiles (and no, RIM does not advertise the fact that sometimes my blackberry stucks).
3) People who go out on day1 and buy the iphone are the last ones you should worry about: those people would go out on day30 and spend another 600$ on iphone v2, if only it existed. Those people account for a very small percentage of Apple's business (just do the math of iphones sold in first days vs. targets).
4) The people you should be worry about are the "normal" ones: and honestly Apple does GREAT with them, for the very simple reason that it does not promise what it does not deliver. Nobody is saying that an update will fix something because they KNOW that it could require time, and they could disappoint loads of people. And for the time being, their product does EXACTLY what it promises. And in a few months from now, probably it will be very near to the absurd perfection people are expecting from this toy.
5) Talking security, i find it quite amusing that you talk about the security bug in the iphone as a real threat...it's a bit like being worried that FBI found a serial killer that is wandering across USA. Do you realize that each and every phone/computer can be attacked/hacked, but they talk about the iphone because its perceived as SO cool not to even play in the other phones league? Next headline will be somebody that discovers that the iPhone is not capable of walking over water...
I mean, wake up!! What have we found? That a wi-fi handeld can be hacked by a group of hackers setting up a fake w-fi spot??? INCREDIBLE!!!
6) Lastly, your Coke comparison is non-sense: Coke lost millions on it, Apple is making them. People do not return their iPhones: people like their iPhones. And in the grand scheme of things, in 2 years from now nobody will really care at all about those 300,000 people that had to stay for some months without multiple SMS-video-cutnpaste-etc.
updates are coming
the whole reason apple did the engineering on multi touch was to allow them to update and change things.
just because it has not happened yet does not mean that apple is not working on it.
It takes time to write and test. When everyone wants everything perfect you have to take time.
just think how pisses everyone would be if the update made things worst!
the whole reason apple did the engineering on multi touch was to allow them to update and change things.
just because it has not happened yet does not mean that apple is not working on it.
It takes time to write and test. When everyone wants everything perfect you have to take time.
just think how pisses everyone would be if the update made things worst!
Do you think maybe you could edit your wall of text and paragraph it for us?
I wouldn't mind reading your post but my eyes glaze over after 2 sentences.
I wouldn't mind reading your post but my eyes glaze over after 2 sentences.
Oh that's a great justification...not!
What are you gonna search for? Your applications? It would be a completely useless feature; all it would add to the iPhone is clutter.