No you can't RDP TO Windows 7 Home. From works fine.
Do you have one of the HP units or did you DIY?
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Clean install of Upgrade version of Windows 7 possible on Boot Camp?
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No you can't RDP TO Windows 7 Home. From works fine.
Do you have one of the HP units or did you DIY?
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Phew!
I have had three of them. 1st was home built. Then I got my 1st Mac and bought the HP EX485 for the time machine compatibility.
Loved it, so when the EX495 came out with faster dual core processor, better time machine capabilities, etc, I bought that.
My EX485 is for sale for a great price if you're interested, they make kick ass little file servers and backup units for both Windows and Mac clients.
Figured I'd chime in...
I purchased the student discount thing for Canadian students blindly... It was $39.99 for download version, and $13 more for shipped copy. The download came as a .exe file, so crossover took over and downloaded the files for me. Unfortunately, the downloaded copy is a .exe file to trigger installer, and 2 .box files which I have no idea how to use. Obviously, the download version is useless for those of us without an activated Windows install through Boot Camp.
I'm going to try my RTM disc later when I get home (if I can find the disc) to see if I can just do a blank install, and then give it the serial number. Additionally, I'm going to wait for my shipped copy to come in, and see what's on there -- IE: is it an actual upgrade copy, or some crazy .exe and .box files on a dvd.
If anyone have a RTM / OEM disc, please do try it and post back to let us know if we can do a blank install w/o serial, and then enter our product keys!
I purchased the student discount thing for Canadian students blindly... It was $39.99 for download version, and $13 more for shipped copy. The download came as a .exe file, so crossover took over and downloaded the files for me. Unfortunately, the downloaded copy is a .exe file to trigger installer, and 2 .box files which I have no idea how to use. Obviously, the download version is useless for those of us without an activated Windows install through Boot Camp.
I'm going to try my RTM disc later when I get home (if I can find the disc) to see if I can just do a blank install, and then give it the serial number. Additionally, I'm going to wait for my shipped copy to come in, and see what's on there -- IE: is it an actual upgrade copy, or some crazy .exe and .box files on a dvd.
If anyone have a RTM / OEM disc, please do try it and post back to let us know if we can do a blank install w/o serial, and then enter our product keys!
Apparently the box files can be expanded into a standard ISO.
http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html
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http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/30470-make-bootable-iso-student-d-l.html
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Edit: Errrrrr. Maybe not. We still don't know yet.
Just to repeat the previous poster, Thurrott has now confirmed that the "upgrade media" will perform clean installs without requring Windows 2000 or above to be installed or activated on the hard drive.
There's no reason to purchase the full version install unless you don't own at least one version of Windows 2000 or above.
This information coming from Paul Thurrott of WinSuperSite fame.
Just to repeat the previous poster, Thurrott has now confirmed that the "upgrade media" will perform clean installs without requring Windows 2000 or above to be installed or activated on the hard drive.
There's no reason to purchase the full version install unless you don't own at least one version of Windows 2000 or above.
This information coming from Paul Thurrott of WinSuperSite fame.
So what's to stop someone from purchasing the upgrade, installing it on bare metal and activating it?
Honesty? OK, maybe not, but there were massive workarounds for every other version of Windows, so why not just give up.
Crossover? Darwine? Virtualbox with some older version of Windows borrowed from a friend?
EDIT: Link to Winsupersite's story: http://community.winsupersite.com/b.../windows-7-question-of-the-year-answered.aspx
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I read this blog and he said that he has only received emails that it is possible. He has not confirmed this himself and said he will do so when he has the time.
The one thing we know for sure is that you can perform a clean installation using the upgrade media/key when you have an activated Windows OS already installed. This was not the case with Vista. Someone confirmed that it even worked with Windows 7 RC.
A conscience. Microsoft doesn't care. At this point, what are the chances that you don't or haven't owned a copy of 2000, XP or Vista? Very slim.
I have purchased probably 5 of each, most of which are sitting in my basement at the moment.
He repeated it with more information on Windows Weekly today, but he still hasn't tried it himself.
I only have the full disc, so I can't test it.
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instalei o win 7 e nao consigo fazer funcionar o som, sera q alguem tem uma ideia ou soloção para para isso
instalei o win 7 e nao consigo fazer funcionar o som, sera q alguem tem uma ideia ou soloção para para isso
To do it using crossover, first double click on the Win7-P-Retail-en-us-x64.exe or equivalent file to extract and create expandedSetup directory.
Then, set perl to run in 32bits because Snow Leopard is trippy and doing things in 64bits where possible:
Run cross over's wine command, define bottle, and convert content:
Note: replace your paths as applicable.
This will create the 7.iso image... I haven't had chance to burn it and test the rest yet, but I will post back when I have a chance to do that.
Then, set perl to run in 32bits because Snow Leopard is trippy and doing things in 64bits where possible:
Code:
export VERSIONER_PERL_PREFER_32_BIT=yesRun cross over's wine command, define bottle, and convert content:
Code:
/Applications/CrossOver\ Games.app/Contents/SharedSupport/CrossOverGames/bin/wine --bottle "winxp" --check --wait-children --start "C:/oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\expandedSetup\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\expandedSetup C:\7.iso" "$@"This will create the 7.iso image... I haven't had chance to burn it and test the rest yet, but I will post back when I have a chance to do that.
I installed win 7 and I do not obtain to make to function the sound, sera q somebody has an idea or soloção stops for this
1st, try posting your own thread.
2nd, try posting in English.
Me. I've never owned a PC and have never purchased any version of windows.
Can I have one?
Continuing from where I left off...
Burning the iso file created from the commands I posted: checked.
Booting from the disc that was burnt from the iso file: checked.
Installing Windows 7 Professional from the disc into boot camp w/o active older installations: checked.
Inputting provided product key: failed.
Skip serial and start using Win 7 Professional w/o serial: checked.
Next thing I'm going to do is to try an inplace upgrade, and see if that works. If not, I'm off to the good old slmgr.vbs and force it to take my legitmate serial :S
Burning the iso file created from the commands I posted: checked.
Booting from the disc that was burnt from the iso file: checked.
Installing Windows 7 Professional from the disc into boot camp w/o active older installations: checked.
Inputting provided product key: failed.
Skip serial and start using Win 7 Professional w/o serial: checked.
Next thing I'm going to do is to try an inplace upgrade, and see if that works. If not, I'm off to the good old slmgr.vbs and force it to take my legitmate serial :S
Inplace upgrade literally took from my last post to now, but I am proud to report that it allows you to inplace upgrade from windows 7 w/o serial to windows 7, AND use your student upgrade serial. Additionally, it will be able to activate without hassle you about not having an older activated version!
Can you compile the whole thing as a guide?
I presume that you can even use the Crossover trial to make it go.
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Just to make sure I understand the process:
From having no windows installed on your mac"
Run Bootcamp Assistant
Put in the Windows 7 upgrade disc (retail or created from the student digital download using a PC)
Do NOT put in your upgrade serial number at this time.
Once you install windows, it goes into a "trial" phase, correct?
You then put the Upgrade disc, and choose to reinstall, then put in your upgrade serial number when asked.
When windows 7 gets done installing, it is activated and working correctly.
Do I have the information correct?
From having no windows installed on your mac"
Run Bootcamp Assistant
Put in the Windows 7 upgrade disc (retail or created from the student digital download using a PC)
Do NOT put in your upgrade serial number at this time.
Once you install windows, it goes into a "trial" phase, correct?
You then put the Upgrade disc, and choose to reinstall, then put in your upgrade serial number when asked.
When windows 7 gets done installing, it is activated and working correctly.
Do I have the information correct?
Here's the step by step of what I did...
1) Purchase Win 7 Upgrade (I did the student upgrade because I am student, and I do have valid XP pro license; just not in use right now)
2) Download Win 7 Student Upgrade
3) Use GUI cross over for games to run the exe file from the three file download
4) It creates expandedSetup or whatever directory with setup files
5) use oscdimg.exe via command line to create iso from the setup directory
6) Make bootcamp partition, I used 32Gb, but I'd imagine anything >12GB or so will work
7) Insert disc created from the iso and enter bootcamp setup
8) do a custom install w/o serial, and enter trial mode
9) once in win 7, perform in place upgrade (not custom install), this will take some time to complete
10) when prompted for serial this time around, enter your upgrade serial
11) install will accept it, and activate it when you have Internet connection
everything works as far as I can tell. But I haven't managed to get bootcamp to install on 64bit win 7 yet, as I don't have my snow leopard disc with me on campus... I'll try to install bootcamp 64 bit via the old .msi method (because I'm using unibody alumin MacBook from early 2009, not mbp) later when I get home, and report back my findings again.
Cheers!
-- poste from my iPhone on a bus, sorry for any stupid typo or incoherent thoughts.
1) Purchase Win 7 Upgrade (I did the student upgrade because I am student, and I do have valid XP pro license; just not in use right now)
2) Download Win 7 Student Upgrade
3) Use GUI cross over for games to run the exe file from the three file download
4) It creates expandedSetup or whatever directory with setup files
5) use oscdimg.exe via command line to create iso from the setup directory
6) Make bootcamp partition, I used 32Gb, but I'd imagine anything >12GB or so will work
7) Insert disc created from the iso and enter bootcamp setup
8) do a custom install w/o serial, and enter trial mode
9) once in win 7, perform in place upgrade (not custom install), this will take some time to complete
10) when prompted for serial this time around, enter your upgrade serial
11) install will accept it, and activate it when you have Internet connection
everything works as far as I can tell. But I haven't managed to get bootcamp to install on 64bit win 7 yet, as I don't have my snow leopard disc with me on campus... I'll try to install bootcamp 64 bit via the old .msi method (because I'm using unibody alumin MacBook from early 2009, not mbp) later when I get home, and report back my findings again.
Cheers!
-- poste from my iPhone on a bus, sorry for any stupid typo or incoherent thoughts.
I pretty much copied up to step 5, then I did a clean install directly to VMWare and I get this when I try to activate it...
EDIT: I burned the ISO to the disk, and I'm reinstalling Windows 7 as an upgrade over the "clean install trial version" of Windows 7... So far it seems to be working... I'll keep you posted!
EDIT 2: It works! If you buy the student upgrade version, you need to install Windows twice... The first time do a clean install (don't enter a product key, continue as a trial)... It won't let you activate, you get the error message above. Workaround: Reinstall Windows 7 on top of your first Windows 7 install this time as an "Upgrade" and then enter your product key. You should be set to go!
EDIT: I burned the ISO to the disk, and I'm reinstalling Windows 7 as an upgrade over the "clean install trial version" of Windows 7... So far it seems to be working... I'll keep you posted!
EDIT 2: It works! If you buy the student upgrade version, you need to install Windows twice... The first time do a clean install (don't enter a product key, continue as a trial)... It won't let you activate, you get the error message above. Workaround: Reinstall Windows 7 on top of your first Windows 7 install this time as an "Upgrade" and then enter your product key. You should be set to go!
Yes, during the first pass install, it will NOT accept your upgrade serial... Microsoft wants you to buy the full version if you don't have a legit activated os installed, even if you have valid licenses not in use like me. Instead of toying with it on that step, just run right by it and use the trial version w/o a serial number, and then do an in place upgrade for the exact same OS.
As for myself, I think my adventure of setting things up is coming to an end.
For what its worth, if I didn't mention before (2 hours sleep in last 48++ hours and counting, staying awake from large dosage of caffeine pills, energy drink, coke cola, and coffee), my system is early 2009 alumin unibody macbook, non pro, 4gb ram, 2ghz dual core. So the bootcamp drivers will complain about my model doesn't support 64bits. Here's what I did, and what my current status is...
1) Insert Leopard DVD that came with unit
2) Start > cmd, right click on the program, choose run as administrator
3) D:
4) cd "Boot Camp\Drivers\Apple"
5) msiexec /i BootCamp64.msi
This installs the 2.1 build that came with the machine, which offers the proper keyboard drivers and trackpad drivers. Then, download BCUpdateVista64.exe from Apple, this will offer a newer version of 2.1 build, which have the proper graphics drivers. Install that. But, it will break your keyboard and dvd drive (can't eject) for some reason, so, counter productive as it may seem, repeat the leopard steps again to repair the boot camp drivers.
I have everything working the way I want, with only one small problem of having 2 bootcamp icons tucked away in the small triangle, hiding the non-primary task tray icons.... Frankly, I don't care about the extra one...
Finally, go back to D:\Boot Camp\Drivers\Nvidia and run NVidiaChipset64.exe, this will fix the last "coprocessor" hardware in device manager that doesn't have appropriate driver, and bring your entire hardware profile to a-okay status.
Hope the info I've posted helps some people getting their Win 7 boot camp running!
PS: To be honest, I don't know if it is a good idea to run Win 7 in VMWare Fusion 3 when it comes out... VMWare Fusion 3 offers a virtual set of hardwares instead of your real hardware, as such, Microsoft might, under certain conditions, detect the "hardware change" and technically could nullify your license for piracy... Though, I don't know if they'd do that or not... But, if people start to do that, and don't have a problem, then I might make the jump too... VMWare team did mention that you can play TF2 and L4D through it w/o too much performance hit, so it's a nice to have kind of thing
PPS: I'll probably write a blog entry with the whole thing step-by-step tomorrow after I get some sleep and have some spare time to seriously test the system for stability issues.
As for myself, I think my adventure of setting things up is coming to an end.
For what its worth, if I didn't mention before (2 hours sleep in last 48++ hours and counting, staying awake from large dosage of caffeine pills, energy drink, coke cola, and coffee), my system is early 2009 alumin unibody macbook, non pro, 4gb ram, 2ghz dual core. So the bootcamp drivers will complain about my model doesn't support 64bits. Here's what I did, and what my current status is...
1) Insert Leopard DVD that came with unit
2) Start > cmd, right click on the program, choose run as administrator
3) D:
4) cd "Boot Camp\Drivers\Apple"
5) msiexec /i BootCamp64.msi
This installs the 2.1 build that came with the machine, which offers the proper keyboard drivers and trackpad drivers. Then, download BCUpdateVista64.exe from Apple, this will offer a newer version of 2.1 build, which have the proper graphics drivers. Install that. But, it will break your keyboard and dvd drive (can't eject) for some reason, so, counter productive as it may seem, repeat the leopard steps again to repair the boot camp drivers.
I have everything working the way I want, with only one small problem of having 2 bootcamp icons tucked away in the small triangle, hiding the non-primary task tray icons.... Frankly, I don't care about the extra one...
Finally, go back to D:\Boot Camp\Drivers\Nvidia and run NVidiaChipset64.exe, this will fix the last "coprocessor" hardware in device manager that doesn't have appropriate driver, and bring your entire hardware profile to a-okay status.
Hope the info I've posted helps some people getting their Win 7 boot camp running!
PS: To be honest, I don't know if it is a good idea to run Win 7 in VMWare Fusion 3 when it comes out... VMWare Fusion 3 offers a virtual set of hardwares instead of your real hardware, as such, Microsoft might, under certain conditions, detect the "hardware change" and technically could nullify your license for piracy... Though, I don't know if they'd do that or not... But, if people start to do that, and don't have a problem, then I might make the jump too... VMWare team did mention that you can play TF2 and L4D through it w/o too much performance hit, so it's a nice to have kind of thing
PPS: I'll probably write a blog entry with the whole thing step-by-step tomorrow after I get some sleep and have some spare time to seriously test the system for stability issues.