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dimme

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I did a clean install with the retail upgrade. I had to install once without the serial number ( would not work) and then upgrade on top of that install and then it took my serial number.
 

jazzagers

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Oct 21, 2009
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I did a clean install with the retail upgrade. I had to install once without the serial number ( would not work) and then upgrade on top of that install and then it took my serial number.

Did you use the 32 or 64 bit version? Oh, and what do you mean by "upgrade on top of that install."
 

MacFanJeff

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Jan 28, 2008
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I'm curious about Pro. I only ordered Home Premium since I use Windows 7 for very little these days, mostly just games under boot camp, etc.

What are the major advantages?

You should get the Amazon Prime program. All of my Amazon stuff gets shipped 2nd day, and for $3.99 per order I can get stuff over nighted. Seeing as I get dozens of things from Amazon every year it's a really good deal for me.

Actually there is one MAJOR advantage to Professional and Ultimate over Home Premium that few tech articles mention. That is the fact the Home is limited to 16GB RAM while Pro and Ultimate have limits up to 192GB. For people like me that are POWER users and not typical users, this is a MUST.

Also, agree with you about Amazon Prime. I got many games and stuff with free 2nd day shipping. My Windows 7 software all came on the 22nd because Amazon had FREE SAME RELEASE DAY DELIVERY, which can't be beat.
 

MacFanJeff

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Jan 28, 2008
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I am going to be doing an "upgrade" of my Mac Pro later today or tomorrow and will be doing a "clean install" (the only way to go). What I have done since I have a Mac Pro is put Windows on an entire hard drive all by itself so it is a fully dedicated Windows drive. On boot I simply choose which OS I want to work in.

I will update this post later with results of doing this setup.
 

jmpage2

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Actually there is one MAJOR advantage to Professional and Ultimate over Home Premium that few tech articles mention. That is the fact the Home is limited to 16GB RAM while Pro and Ultimate have limits up to 192GB. For people like me that are POWER users and not typical users, this is a MUST.

Also, agree with you about Amazon Prime. I got many games and stuff with free 2nd day shipping. My Windows 7 software all came on the 22nd because Amazon had FREE SAME RELEASE DAY DELIVERY, which can't be beat.

What are you doing that requires more than 16GB? I'm surrounded by "power users" including other engineers, graphics artists, etc, and I don't know anyone using that kind of RAM.
 

MacFanJeff

macrumors regular
Jan 28, 2008
220
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IL, USA
What are you doing that requires more than 16GB? I'm surrounded by "power users" including other engineers, graphics artists, etc, and I don't know anyone using that kind of RAM.

Lots of high-end 3D software. I use Maya, Vue, Modo, C4D, etc. which have 64 bit versions. I will be going up to 24GB of RAM this weekend. There is a DRAMATIC increase not only in render times, but also in the amount of resources you can put into a scene or work on with the more RAM you have. If you know graphics artists that use these types of programs, then I am sure they will tell you the same thing. Everyone I know that does 3D work has at least 16GB and some more than 60GB with high-end custom servers.

I also have two older PCs put to good use from 2004/2005 that just have 2GB of RAM that are setup as my "render nodes" so it is part of a render network for distributed rendering. It just keeps expanding! :)
 

balamw

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Actually there is one MAJOR advantage to Professional and Ultimate over Home Premium that few tech articles mention. That is the fact the Home is limited to 16GB RAM while Pro and Ultimate have limits up to 192GB. For people like me that are POWER users and not typical users, this is a MUST.

Didn't know about that one! Another arbitrary limitation in Home is for a single physical processor, which can be multi core, but rules out anything like the 8 core Mac Pro or other multi-processor workstations.

B
 

StruckANerve

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Dec 31, 2008
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I just have a quick question. I am running XP right now. After I get the upgrade disc I have to delete the XP partition, create a new partition in bootcamp and start the Windows 7 install from there going through custom install without the pass key and then upgrade from within the unactivated Windows 7?
 

dimme

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Did you use the 32 or 64 bit version? Oh, and what do you mean by "upgrade on top of that install."

It was the 64 bit version. I had win7 RC1 installed. It was the ultimate version. I have the pro version so even with tricking windows install file to get it to upgrade the RC1 version it still would not update from ultimate to pro. So I went for a clean install. First install it would not take my serial number, so installed with out a number. Then after the install finished I upgraded (my fresh install) and the number worked.
 

jazzagers

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Oct 21, 2009
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It was the 64 bit version. I had win7 RC1 installed. It was the ultimate version. I have the pro version so even with tricking windows install file to get it to upgrade the RC1 version it still would not update from ultimate to pro. So I went for a clean install. First install it would not take my serial number, so installed with out a number. Then after the install finished I upgraded (my fresh install) and the number worked.

Sounds good, I guess I'll go ahead and buy the 64-bit professional version from 741.com
 

X Enziguri X

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Oct 23, 2009
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Ok, I'm a bit confused. If I buy the student upgrade from MS I get a downloaded .exe file? Can I just run this file in the RC and go through setup like that, or do I have to figure out how to convert it to an .iso and burn a DVD?

Do they send me an installation disk as well? Because I'm seeing that they are shipping something to me on the checkout. Can I just wait for this to arrive and do the install from that as long as I go through the "Install Twice" method.

Thanks for the help. The only version of Windows I own is the RC and I'm assuming that the upgrade doesn't count it.
 

jmpage2

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Has anyone been successful with activating an upgrade license if they installed with original non-upgrade media?
 

chrisrottan

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Oct 23, 2009
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upgrade serials are different from retail serial on the 32bit.
However, 64-bit serials are all retail serials(FULL VERSION)
 

X Enziguri X

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2009
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Does that mean if I order the 64 bit upgrade that I can input the serial during installation with no issues, even if there is no prior version of Windows?
 

Pocket

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Oct 24, 2009
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Student version of win 7 prof using boot camp

I have windows 7 on my 2008 intel iMac however it is not fully functional. I had XP running already using bootcamp and whilst booted in XP, ran the installation cd (couldn't do anything with download and waited for my disk to arrive by the way) and completed a custom install. At first the disk wouldn't run and I had to restart (from XP) and then a black screen (obviously of the windows variety) prompted me to press any key to boot from the disk. The rest was simply following on screen instructions. So windows 7 professional is up and running but when I put in my Snow Leopard disk to install drivers, it was no surprise to have a message box appear saying the software is unsupported. In case you haven't heard, they will be supporting Windows 7 in bootcamp "By the end of the year"!!

The most apparent thing missing is sound but things have locked up and I have been unable to install applications. I am not sure what else may be missing.

If any one has heard of a way around these issues please let me know and I hope this experience may help someone.
 

kngelv

macrumors regular
Nov 13, 2004
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Detroit
I had the Windows 7 beta installed in a 60GB partition using Bootcamp. I purchased the student priced 64 bit Home Premium upgrade. I downloaded and installed it with no problems. It did not ask for a key from a previous version only the key that came with the download. Late 2008 Unibody MBP.

James
 

chrisrottan

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Oct 23, 2009
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I would strongly suggest calling MS directly as they're offering the full versions at low prices.
Some people even called them and told them they wanted to upgrade their windows xp machines and they sold them a full-retail copy of windows 7 professional and they're not even students.
Click on my name and look for my posts. I posted MS's Sales Department number twice.
Price was $30 + tax

Edit: here's the number for people who don't want to look through my handful of posts: 1.877.696.7786
 

jmpage2

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Okay,

I've got another question before I go through with the install.

I purchased the Win 7 Home Premium Upgrade. The Amazon product description says it includes both 32 and 64 bit versions.

However, the media that came with this package is labeled "32 bit".

Can I simply load the OEM Windows 7 Home Premium media and then activate this key?

How hard would it be for me to transfer this key to another Mac at a later time?

Thanks.
 

dimme

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Feb 14, 2007
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Okay,

I've got another question before I go through with the install.

I purchased the Win 7 Home Premium Upgrade. The Amazon product description says it includes both 32 and 64 bit versions.

However, the media that came with this package is labeled "32 bit".

Can I simply load the OEM Windows 7 Home Premium media and then activate this key?

How hard would it be for me to transfer this key to another Mac at a later time?

Thanks.
I received the Windows 7 pro upgrade from amazon. I has two disks i labeled 32 bit and one labeled 64 bit
 

dimme

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Feb 14, 2007
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Does that mean if I order the 64 bit upgrade that I can input the serial during installation with no issues, even if there is no prior version of Windows?
It did not work that way for me. I had windows 7 RC1 installed. It would not let me upgrade because it was ultimate and I was installing PRO. I did a clean install and it will not take my serial number. I had to install with out the number. Then I upgraded with the same disk and it took the number.
 

X Enziguri X

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2009
3
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It did not work that way for me. I had windows 7 RC1 installed. It would not let me upgrade because it was ultimate and I was installing PRO. I did a clean install and it will not take my serial number. I had to install with out the number. Then I upgraded with the same disk and it took the number.

Thanks, I'm in the same scenario so I'll try that.
 

AHDuke99

macrumors 68020
Nov 14, 2002
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Charleston, SC
Sounds like I'll be having to install it twice too. I guess I can do it via VMWare since I'd rather not have to burn this to a CD.
 
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