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CNNMoney: Microsoft is a dying consumer brand
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Oh, xBox is doing OK, that's not disputed. But hasn't it kind of peaked? I mean, most who want one already have one. Also, it's just a game console. Nothing wrong with it, but profit is mostly limited to the initial purchase, and the margin isn't all that high. Microsoft could no more survive on xBox than Arnold Schwarzenegger could survive on one grain of rice a day.
Windows and Office brands have done well.... ON PAPER. Most of this years good performance is due to pent-up demand from businesses that refused to adopt Vista for several years and are now going from XP to Seven.
Windows and Office are stagnant and losing market share rapidly amongst consumers. Businesses are likely to eventually follow.
A major company like MS should not be in a weak or losing position regarding their main product.... Windows and Office. MS is.
I believe that this is due to their historical reliance upon usurping others. They have run out of victims to steal from. Right back to Day One, MS has never been an Innovator and now that all the companies that did innovate are gone (mostly due to MS), they lack the imagination to make anything new or better.
Now, their sole remining competitors are far stronger as a result of surviving decades of MS trying to destroy them and weeding out the rest. For the most part, this means Apple.
Go Team Apple! Keri
Oh, xBox is doing OK, that's not disputed. But hasn't it kind of peaked? I mean, most who want one already have one. Also, it's just a game console. Nothing wrong with it, but profit is mostly limited to the initial purchase, and the margin isn't all that high. Microsoft could no more survive on xBox than Arnold Schwarzenegger could survive on one grain of rice a day.
Windows and Office brands have done well.... ON PAPER. Most of this years good performance is due to pent-up demand from businesses that refused to adopt Vista for several years and are now going from XP to Seven.
Windows and Office are stagnant and losing market share rapidly amongst consumers. Businesses are likely to eventually follow.
A major company like MS should not be in a weak or losing position regarding their main product.... Windows and Office. MS is.
I believe that this is due to their historical reliance upon usurping others. They have run out of victims to steal from. Right back to Day One, MS has never been an Innovator and now that all the companies that did innovate are gone (mostly due to MS), they lack the imagination to make anything new or better.
Now, their sole remining competitors are far stronger as a result of surviving decades of MS trying to destroy them and weeding out the rest. For the most part, this means Apple.
Keri
[citation needed]
EVERYWHERE
Oh, xBox is doing OK, that's not disputed. But hasn't it kind of peaked? I mean, most who want one already have one. Also, it's just a game console. Nothing wrong with it, but profit is mostly limited to the initial purchase, and the margin isn't all that high. Microsoft could no more survive on xBox than Arnold Schwarzenegger could survive on one grain of rice a day.
Windows and Office brands have done well.... ON PAPER. Most of this years good performance is due to pent-up demand from businesses that refused to adopt Vista for several years and are now going from XP to Seven.
Windows and Office are stagnant and losing market share rapidly amongst consumers. Businesses are likely to eventually follow.
A major company like MS should not be in a weak or losing position regarding their main product.... Windows and Office. MS is.
I believe that this is due to their historical reliance upon usurping others. They have run out of victims to steal from. Right back to Day One, MS has never been an Innovator and now that all the companies that did innovate are gone (mostly due to MS), they lack the imagination to make anything new or better.
Now, their sole remining competitors are far stronger as a result of surviving decades of MS trying to destroy them and weeding out the rest. For the most part, this means Apple.
Keri
Did you see that Xbox Live has more subscribers than Comcast?
you know, i think Apple can REALLY take another (heh) good crack at the gaming market! through the use of the latest
TV and the iStore + some sort of Apple game-pad (with accelerometer etc) i think that Apple would have a massive impact on the gaming market, much like the Wii. why is this relevant? i think it may imapct the xbox (and ps3) market.did you know that australia has cheaper 3G internet then any other country? see what i did there?
you know, i think Apple can REALLY take another (heh) good crack at the gaming market! through the use of the latest
did you know that australia has cheaper 3G internet then any other country? see what i did there?
Ill break it down. 25+ million XBOX Live subscribers x $50/year = $1.25billion from subscriptions alone.
Also highest selling game system last 4 months.
So what did the previous poster say to make me bring this up?
"Oh, xBox is doing OK, that's not disputed. But hasn't it kind of peaked? I mean, most who want one already have one. Also, it's just a game console. Nothing wrong with it, but profit is mostly limited to the initial purchase, and the margin isn't all that high. Microsoft could no more survive on xBox than Arnold Schwarzenegger could survive on one grain of rice a day." -Manposingaswoman
Rubbish.
OS X and the iPhone has done well.... ON PAPER. I have yet to see visual proof that Apple is catching on.
Rubbish.
And the xbox.
Some companies don't need to innovate to survive. I don't believe they have ever innovated. Doesn't make them dead. Of coarse, Apple have never stolen ideas.
What?
Please, you obviously have no idea what you are on about. You like Apple, which is great. I like Apple too. Doesn't mean the end of M$ at all.
1. apples share price
2. apples revenue margins despite being +1/10th the size of microsoft
3. added Apple stores around the world, massive revenue etc.
4. having a massive majority of iPods has helped OSX as people feel "safer" having used an Apple product, iPhones similarly have a massive market. etc
Why Thank You!
Of course my preference for Apple has nothing to do with MS. Duh!
Also, my disdain for and disgust with Microsoft has nothing to do with their survival.
Their own lack of initiative and vision is what will ultimately cause their demise, not anything I say or do.
I am sharply critical of MS because of their disregard for others, common-sense laws and even their customers and users.
I struggled with their defective products for years before finding a viable alternative... and still have to deal with their junk on a daily basis at work.
So fine. Call me names if it will make you feel better. (not you, roadbloc)
That reflects more on you than it does me and won't make me go away.
Think.... where have I insulted anyone here personally? Mostly I point out what I see as MS's failings. Disagree all you want. This is a FORUM after all.
If you really can't stand my un-apologetic Anti-Microsoft / Pro-Apple views, just think of me as the Devil's very own Advocate.
Even though MS is the one that earned all of those pesky anti-trust lawsuits.
Oh Well.
Have Fun!
Go Team Apple! Keri
By the way....
I don't go trolling Microsoft-specific sites. I specifically avoid them, having nothing constructive to say as I feel MS is a lost cause.
Why are there so many MS trolls over here on a Mac site?
The same argument can and has been made against apple as well. The various antitrust investigations are proof that apple's behavior has been enough to catch the eye of the US government and the EU regularity people.
While I do like apple, to embrace the notion that MS products are junk, while apple products are a perfect is not correct.
I deal with MS productions on a daily basis as maintain a small server farm (mixture of w2k3/w2k8 servers) and desktops, along with a number of macs at our facility. MS products are being used successfully for mission critical enterprise wide business solutions. They're not junk.
And while apple does make great products that does not make them immune from problems. The iPhone 4 is probably the best example, since it has issues with the antenna, proximity sensor, the rear glass scratching/shattering.
Go to apple discussions forums and you'll see a lot of threads about apple products and problems.
How long ago was it since you used a modern Windows PC? XP is currently still the industry standard and XP is a pig. Because I fully agree with you on this, I have struggled on Windows PC's, both XP and Vista made me loose confidence in Microsoft and I switched to Apple. However Windows 7, in my opinion, is actually better than the current OS X, and I don't struggle when using Windows PC's anymore. I have the feeling your opinions are dated.
At least you admit you are bias. *LTD* isn't the date for you.
Liking Microsoft products and defending them when someone else posts a bunch of Microsoft FUD and BS doesn't make you a Microsoft troll.
Why?
Is this Wikipedia?
And here I thought this was a Forum for discussing Ideas, Observations, Opinions and maybe having a little debate.
Happy Monday!
Go Team Apple! PS. Question: Are the Microsoft Store employees here paid by the Post or by the Word?
Answer: Neither. They're paid by the Hour!
No, but if you're going to post something and try to pass it off as fact, you should probably back it up.
Go team Microsoft!
Why?
Is this Wikipedia?
And here I thought this was a Forum for discussing Ideas, Observations, Opinions and maybe having a little debate.
Happy Monday!
PS. Question: Are the Microsoft Store employees here paid by the Post or by the Word?
Answer: Neither. They're paid by the Hour!
You do realize I pretty much have many Apple products and I am here because of my liking to Apple. However, I am not a zealous and blind fanboy that accepts Apple as the greatest thing ever since sliced bread, no.
Microsoft like it or not is still a very relevant player in everywhere they have a good foothold (Windows, X-Box, MS Office and Desktop accessories). I don't see them dying anytime soon.
More over, everything you say is pretty much hear-say and made up BS. I said [citation needed] not because this is Wikipedia, but because if you are going to spill out comments/statements like that as if they were facts, you better have some sort of evidence to back you up.
The difference is that Apple has not been found guilty *so far*. And "catch the eye" doesn't seem the proper phrase in that matter, it's more about third parties lodging complaints in order to catch those eyes.
Like MacRumors.com
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Well, it depends how you define "relevant player": if it's in terms of market share, sure. But in the tech world it's mostly about setting the standards and bringing about innovation and in this department, MS has not been really impressive in the recent years.
But it's actually about selling products and making money.
Their consumer products: XBOX, Windows, Office, Windows Phone 7, Kinect.
WP7 sold out in UK
Kinect - just upped their estimates on sales to 5 million by the end of the year
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Microsoft are doing just fine... they've gotten over windows vista, XBox is doing OK, Windows Mobile 7 looks like its going to sell well from initial impressions.
I.e., microsoft are slowly putting their past behind them and becoming more innovative, once again.
They've just had a very good financial report... all is good.
Microsoft will rein supreme. Don't worry.
However, IMO, microsoft still stink and their products suck ass..
I.e., microsoft are slowly putting their past behind them and becoming more innovative, once again.
They've just had a very good financial report... all is good.
Microsoft will rein supreme. Don't worry.
However, IMO, microsoft still stink and their products suck ass..
A highly anticipated compoent to the xbox that gives motion control to the xbox like the wii, except unlike the wii that uses the controllers and a sensor on placed on the tV, this uses only a sensor and your body. Pretty cool and ingenious.